Why are American blacks always having issues with the Police?

[Anonymous]

You know what the difference is, skin color. When Dylan Roof was arrested in South Carolina the police took him to Burger King because he said he was hungry. The police knew he had a gun because he had just open fired on a church full of people. When the police approached Tamir Rice they immediately opened fire, no questions or warnings. Not because Tamir had shot anyone, he hadn't, but because they were told he had a gun.

Totally different. The kid was brandishing the "gun" which looked like a real gun. I thought they told him to put it down. I would imagine that Roof was not brandishing a gun when they arrested him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You know what the difference is, skin color. When Dylan Roof was arrested in South Carolina the police took him to Burger King because he said he was hungry. The police knew he had a gun because he had just open fired on a church full of people. When the police approached Tamir Rice they immediately opened fire, no questions or warnings. Not because Tamir had shot anyone, he hadn't, but because they were told he had a gun.

Totally different. The kid was brandishing the "gun" which looked like a real gun. I thought they told him to put it down. I would imagine that Roof was not brandishing a gun when they arrested him.

Another excuse. Just when do the police start taking mass killers to BK and it becomes acceptable for you. Oh, I know. No need to answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You know what the difference is, skin color. When Dylan Roof was arrested in South Carolina the police took him to Burger King because he said he was hungry. The police knew he had a gun because he had just open fired on a church full of people. When the police approached Tamir Rice they immediately opened fire, no questions or warnings. Not because Tamir had shot anyone, he hadn't, but because they were told he had a gun.

Totally different. The kid was brandishing the "gun" which looked like a real gun. I thought they told him to put it down. I would imagine that Roof was not brandishing a gun when they arrested him.

Another excuse. Just when do the police start taking mass killers to BK and it becomes acceptable for you. Oh, I know. No need to answer.

And no, the video shows the police jumping out of the car and shooting. There were no words exchanged in the Rice incident, but thanks for inputting your own facts.

[Anonymous]

Yo Steele if I counter your post will you take it serioulsy

I don't want to respond to you with effort if you are just going to ignore it

[Anonymous]

I'll get the ball rolling

I'll listen if people take ownership for their behavior and quit playing the victim card
I'll listen if people quit blaming cops and blame the thugs and ghetto idiots of all races who cause all these problems

A quick caveat what happened in MN from initial reports is jacked up. We need to wait until the final investigation to jump to any conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll get the ball rolling

I'll listen if people take ownership for their behavior and quit playing the victim card
I'll listen if people quit blaming cops and blame the thugs and ghetto idiots of all races who cause all these problems

A quick caveat what happened in MN from initial reports is jacked up. We need to wait until the final investigation to jump to any conclusions.

The Police thought that guy was the robbery suspect happened just two days ago. In another video, the girl friend was seen carrying the same brand of cigarette carton robbed. The county doesn't have a record that he has a license to carry a gun. The police told investigators he was reaching for his gun.

I really hope the media in the future doesn't fan the flame too quickly. It has had a deadly consequence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not black but a minority. Why is it always (mostly 95%) that blacks are having issues with the local police? I don't see Asians, Hispanic, African (African immigrants), indian, Arabic, etc is the news getting shot,mets.

Because they commit more crimes.

Correction: They get arrested for more crimes.

There are many studies, particularly on drug use, that show whites and blacks engaged in criminal behavior at very similar rates.

My i grew up in a very white blue collar town full of poor druggie whites and trailer parks. My father still lives there as do most of the people I grew up with. Instead of pot, the past 12 or so years it has switched to a lot of meth. Most of the people in that town have (legal) guns in their homes. The unemploymemt rate is higher than other more affluent areas.

The town is still almost 95% white.

I would say parts of this town, especially the trailer park areas, are comparable in terms of drug use as similar income inner city areas.

However, in my entire lifetime and that was around 1978 (involved drugs and a love triangle) there has only been one murder in that town and very little violent crime beyond fist fights. There is no gun violence.

What is the difference? There are just as many guns and just as much drug use (mostly meth).

The families are mostly intact though and the fathers only have a couple of kids, usually by one woman, mostly within marriage, and the men that have children by more than one woman are usually in a second marriage situation and not a series of unmarried, multiple baby mammas.

Maybe that is the difference.

I think that is what people are talking about when they refer to the difference in crime.

You can blame it on whites getting off for crimes and blacks not, but a murder is a murder and a shooting is a shooting, and that type of crime is not happening in white communities, even the poor druggie ones.

That is like dismissing school shootings as not being an upper middle class white problem when we know it is, just because the inner city 16-25 year old black men have gun violence too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not black but a minority. Why is it always (mostly 95%) that blacks are having issues with the local police? I don't see Asians, Hispanic, African (African immigrants), indian, Arabic, etc is the news getting shot,mets.

Because they commit more crimes.

Correction: They get arrested for more crimes.

There are many studies, particularly on drug use, that show whites and blacks engaged in criminal behavior at very similar rates.

My i grew up in a very white blue collar town full of poor druggie whites and trailer parks. My father still lives there as do most of the people I grew up with. Instead of pot, the past 12 or so years it has switched to a lot of meth. Most of the people in that town have (legal) guns in their homes. The unemploymemt rate is higher than other more affluent areas.

The town is still almost 95% white.

I would say parts of this town, especially the trailer park areas, are comparable in terms of drug use as similar income inner city areas.

However, in my entire lifetime and that was around 1978 (involved drugs and a love triangle) there has only been one murder in that town and very little violent crime beyond fist fights. There is no gun violence.

What is the difference? There are just as many guns and just as much drug use (mostly meth).

The families are mostly intact though and the fathers only have a couple of kids, usually by one woman, mostly within marriage, and the men that have children by more than one woman are usually in a second marriage situation and not a series of unmarried, multiple baby mammas.

Maybe that is the difference.

I think that is what people are talking about when they refer to the difference in crime.

You can blame it on whites getting off for crimes and blacks not, but a murder is a murder and a shooting is a shooting, and that type of crime is not happening in white communities, even the poor druggie ones.

That is like dismissing school shootings as not being an upper middle class white problem when we know it is, just because the inner city 16-25 year old black men have gun violence too.

Pp here.

I alsl think it is a very specific community with this very specific problem.

Educated, middle to upper middle class intact black families are not part of this reality either so it is so unfair to lump them all together.

[Anonymous]

Totally agree

Its an SES thing not a racial thing

The problem is there are a lot of low SES blacks in DC so then white people assume all DC black residents are that way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://dcist.com/2016/07/teen_who_attacked_metro_passenger_i.php

To answer op, it is behavior like this attack on the metro which happens often for no reason. I hear about these unprovoked attacks by African American teens almost daily in DC and this is why they have trouble with police.

And what about the unprovoked attacks by whites throughout the country. The police in those jurisdictions have to contend with them as well. But I do understand you PP. When a Black person does something that Black person is representative of all Blacks. However, when a white person does something, he is an individual and is not representative of you. Piss off.

Not the PP - but . . .

So then innocent blacks (hard-working yada yada) are pissed at being labeled monolithic b/c they don't want to be associated with blacks who are - as defined by many on these these threads - "thugs?" Is that the reason?

As a white person, I am not ashamed of being associated with "white trash," which is also kicked around quite a bit on these threads. I'm educated and live a comfortable middle class lifestyle, but I'm not embarrassed by my "white trash" brothers and sisters.

So it's about embarrassment? Or is it about lacking compassion for their brother and sisters who face some difficult and oftentimes deadly obstacles in life?

So perhaps you will tell me to piss off, too, which is fine b/c I don't give two shits. But I'd like an honest answer from someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll get the ball rolling

I'll listen if people take ownership for their behavior and quit playing the victim card
I'll listen if people quit blaming cops and blame the thugs and ghetto idiots of all races who cause all these problems

A quick caveat what happened in MN from initial reports is jacked up. We need to wait until the final investigation to jump to any conclusions.

OOO! OOO! Let me play!! You mean the angry white men who didn't bother to go to college or get any other training because they assumed the mill/plant would always be there and UncleCousinBrother JimBob would hire 'em on whether or not they were the best candidate, but the plant/mill closed and now they are unemployed and its other people's fault that they don't have any marketable skills, that victim card?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://dcist.com/2016/07/teen_who_attacked_metro_passenger_i.php

To answer op, it is behavior like this attack on the metro which happens often for no reason. I hear about these unprovoked attacks by African American teens almost daily in DC and this is why they have trouble with police.

And what about the unprovoked attacks by whites throughout the country. The police in those jurisdictions have to contend with them as well. But I do understand you PP. When a Black person does something that Black person is representative of all Blacks. However, when a white person does something, he is an individual and is not representative of you. Piss off.

Not the PP - but . . .

So then innocent blacks (hard-working yada yada) are pissed at being labeled monolithic b/c they don't want to be associated with blacks who are - as defined by many on these these threads - "thugs?" Is that the reason?

As a white person, I am not ashamed of being associated with "white trash," which is also kicked around quite a bit on these threads. I'm educated and live a comfortable middle class lifestyle, but I'm not embarrassed by my "white trash" brothers and sisters.

So it's about embarrassment? Or is it about lacking compassion for their brother and sisters who face some difficult and oftentimes deadly obstacles in life?

So perhaps you will tell me to piss off, too, which is fine b/c I don't give two shits. But I'd like an honest answer from someone.

NP. Most of the time white people get to be individuals. Nobody is looking at Dylan Roof and profiling all crazy looking white boys. Or Adam Lanza UMC looking dudes. Those were the exceptions. You rarely hear people say "fix the problem in your community!!" to white people in relation to the mass shooters etc.

But the worst actors among minorities are judged as the norm for the whole lot and that is fucked up. Can't you see that?

Let's all mull over this quote from the speech GW Bush gave yesterday: "Too often we judge other groups by their worst examples, while judging ourselves by our best intentions.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not black but a minority. Why is it always (mostly 95%) that blacks are having issues with the local police? I don't see Asians, Hispanic, African (African immigrants), indian, Arabic, etc is the news getting shot,mets.

Because they commit more crimes.

Correction: They get arrested for more crimes.

There are many studies, particularly on drug use, that show whites and blacks engaged in criminal behavior at very similar rates.

My i grew up in a very white blue collar town full of poor druggie whites and trailer parks. My father still lives there as do most of the people I grew up with. Instead of pot, the past 12 or so years it has switched to a lot of meth. Most of the people in that town have (legal) guns in their homes. The unemploymemt rate is higher than other more affluent areas.

The town is still almost 95% white.

I would say parts of this town, especially the trailer park areas, are comparable in terms of drug use as similar income inner city areas.

However, in my entire lifetime and that was around 1978 (involved drugs and a love triangle) there has only been one murder in that town and very little violent crime beyond fist fights. There is no gun violence.

What is the difference? There are just as many guns and just as much drug use (mostly meth).

The families are mostly intact though and the fathers only have a couple of kids, usually by one woman, mostly within marriage, and the men that have children by more than one woman are usually in a second marriage situation and not a series of unmarried, multiple baby mammas.

Maybe that is the difference.

I think that is what people are talking about when they refer to the difference in crime.

You can blame it on whites getting off for crimes and blacks not, but a murder is a murder and a shooting is a shooting, and that type of crime is not happening in white communities, even the poor druggie ones.

That is like dismissing school shootings as not being an upper middle class white problem when we know it is, just because the inner city 16-25 year old black men have gun violence too.

Part of the reason the black families you compare yourself to are fatherless is because those fathers are in jail for drug offenses are a result of arrests and prosecutions for those offenses being higher when it comes to blacks rather than whites. Maybe if the police spent the same focus throwing all the meth head dads in jail, your experience would be different.

[Anonymous]

^^^ meant, "as a result"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not black but a minority. Why is it always (mostly 95%) that blacks are having issues with the local police? I don't see Asians, Hispanic, African (African immigrants), indian, Arabic, etc is the news getting shot,mets.

Because they commit more crimes.

Correction: They get arrested for more crimes.

There are many studies, particularly on drug use, that show whites and blacks engaged in criminal behavior at very similar rates.

My i grew up in a very white blue collar town full of poor druggie whites and trailer parks. My father still lives there as do most of the people I grew up with. Instead of pot, the past 12 or so years it has switched to a lot of meth. Most of the people in that town have (legal) guns in their homes. The unemploymemt rate is higher than other more affluent areas.

The town is still almost 95% white.

I would say parts of this town, especially the trailer park areas, are comparable in terms of drug use as similar income inner city areas.

However, in my entire lifetime and that was around 1978 (involved drugs and a love triangle) there has only been one murder in that town and very little violent crime beyond fist fights. There is no gun violence.

What is the difference? There are just as many guns and just as much drug use (mostly meth).

The families are mostly intact though and the fathers only have a couple of kids, usually by one woman, mostly within marriage, and the men that have children by more than one woman are usually in a second marriage situation and not a series of unmarried, multiple baby mammas.

Maybe that is the difference.

I think that is what people are talking about when they refer to the difference in crime.

You can blame it on whites getting off for crimes and blacks not, but a murder is a murder and a shooting is a shooting, and that type of crime is not happening in white communities, even the poor druggie ones.

That is like dismissing school shootings as not being an upper middle class white problem when we know it is, just because the inner city 16-25 year old black men have gun violence too.

Part of the reason the black families you compare yourself to are fatherless is because those fathers are in jail for drug offenses are a result of arrests and prosecutions for those offenses being higher when it comes to blacks rather than whites. Maybe if the police spent the same focus throwing all the meth head dads in jail, your experience would be different.

TESTIFY! ::waves church fan back and forth::