A sad story about terrible parenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Black woman here.

I will say that the general "she is a ghetto welfare whore" theme is a bit distasteful on this thread. Especially considering that four beautiful souls lost their lives in a tragic way. It tears me up to think about how scared and frightened they must have been all alone without anyone to help them. And it makes me incredibly sad that the oldest child has lost his/her siblings and mother.

I don't think anyone is saying that this woman should be nominated for Mother of the Year. However, there was a rush to judgment. We were discussing her sexual history, her status as a welfare recipient, her possible mental retardation, etc....all without knowing the facts.

It is distasteful that when it comes to a black person the WORST is always assumed, while others get the benefit of the doubt. Someone posted a story not too long ago about a SAHM who was reading a magazine while her toddler drowned in the washing machine. I don't recall her being harshly judged.

In the end, the facts reveal that this woman was shockingly and disgustingly negligent and I am so angry with her. She really should be tried for Murder 1. The thought of a child being abused and neglected just tears me up, so when I read this story, all I can think about are the innocent children and the absence of a responsible person in their lives.

May their sweet souls rest in peace and may their surviving sibling heal from this grief and go on to live a successful life in their honor.

AMEN!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:to the poster who says that 5 children by age 26 is normal outside eastern urban areas of the states, is that really true????

im somewhat willing to listen seeing as when i travel in the midwest people think im my child's grandmother (much better alternative than my other conclusion,which is i just look old).

I lived on the west coast (Orange County, San Diego County, and Los Angeles County) from the ages of 13-30, and I can tell you it was definitely not the "norm" amongst my peers. I had my first child at age 24, and was considered "young".

Oh yes, comparing San Diego, Los Angeles, and Washington DC gives a great perspective on life in rural Louisiana. Yep, that just about covers the whole middle part of the country.

The PP said it was normal outside eastern urban areas. Los Angeles is not an EASTERN urban area.

You must be pretty stupid if comparing Los Angeles and rural Louisiana makes sense to you.

I grew up in a rural area and many people I knew had babies right out of high school. Some got married and some of those couples were divorced by the time they were 25-30. I didn't get married until I was 26 and I had my first baby at 27 and the second at 28 which makes me an old mom by the standards in my hometown. Living here the parents of my children's peers are older than I am by five to ten years.
My HS friends have kids that are freshmen in college or seniors in HS. Several of them have children with different men and others have five or six children with the same man but they never married but have been engaged to for the last 10-15 years.
I judge this woman, not because of the number of children she had, or the fact that she was living in a trailer. I judge her because she left her children without supervision and they died as a result of her neglect. I feel for her one surviving child and how terrible it must be to lose his siblings so suddenly. I can only imagine he has survivor's guilt and thinks he should have been there to protect his younger siblings even though chances are he too would have died. He may even think that he should have died right along with them.
I can't imagine the guilt the mother must be feeling over the loss of her children. I hope to God she was off trying to provide for those children and not out trying to find another Daddy for them.
I too wonder where the father(s) is(are) and wonder how they are coping with the loss of their child(ren). They must wonder why they left all the kids in the care of this woman who obviously didn't have help or a support system in place. I know how difficult it is with 2 on my own (DH works 90-100 hours a week and has been gone for 6-8 months at a time) but even without family in the area I was still able to find a support system.

Double Amen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

This.......

I am not a liberal and your rush to judgment, again, to label people says a lot about you. Perahps you have a reading comprehension deficiency, so to clear it up for you, no one said it was okay to have six kids, and I thought it was five, by different men. Of course since you don't know how many men fathered the children, you speculated and rushed to judgment again. Personally, I think in this day and age, it is irresponsible to have six kids whether it is with six men or one.

What people, including myself have repeatedly stated is that her sexual history should not be open for discussion. Her leaving the children alone and the reason(s) why are open for discussion. Also, it is interesting that you state that being Black excuses any responsibility or accountability. You and many others on this thread allowed your prejudices and biases to prejudge this woman. Her race was unknown until the the 10th or 11th page of this thread. Someone living in rural Louisiana in a trailer park could have just as easily been a white woman, but your prejudices toward Blacks allowed you to assume without corroborating information that she was Black.

So, if you are saying that liberals prefer facts before pre-judging, perhaps I need to rethink my voting patterns, and vote "D" straight down the ballot. Of course, if I voted like that, I would be someone who could not think for oneself. Therefore, I will remain an "I" voter and stick to the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

I'll somewhat agree with this, except that I'm a pro-choice, non-religious liberal minority female who has found it surprising that there are so many PPs who feel the need to defend this woman murderer. There is definitely some sort of peverse sense that because she was black and poor that she is entitled to make poor decisions.

This lady had 5 kids and left four of them alone while she was out clubbing. WTF??

Her actions resulted in 4 young, innocent children dying! Because of that, we are most certainly allowed to judge her behaviors. I wouldn't care about her sexual history or the number of sexual partners if her kids hadn't died. It's her business. But, when her actions result in harm to others - it becomes our business.

So why were people so upset when the family in the recent car accident were judged for THEIR decisions? One child dies at 2 because they didn't put a fence around the pool or supervise, one child dies at 16 because the parents didn't make anyone buckle up or even ride in the backseat and dad fell asleep at the wheel. Yet anyone who judged those decisions was LAMBASTED in that thread because "these people have just lost another child!" Rich local white people do it= so sad, we cannot criticize in their time of grief. Poor black woman in Louisiana does it = tried and convicted in court of DCUM opinion before her whereabouts that night were even disclosed.

ITA

[Anonymous]

What does ITA mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does ITA mean?

ITA= I totally agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

No, it's Ronald Reagan's fault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

This.......

I am not a liberal and your rush to judgment, again, to label people says a lot about you. Perahps you have a reading comprehension deficiency, so to clear it up for you, no one said it was okay to have six kids, and I thought it was five, by different men. Of course since you don't know how many men fathered the children, you speculated and rushed to judgment again. Personally, I think in this day and age, it is irresponsible to have six kids whether it is with six men or one.

What people, including myself have repeatedly stated is that her sexual history should not be open for discussion. Her leaving the children alone and the reason(s) why are open for discussion. Also, it is interesting that you state that being Black excuses any responsibility or accountability. You and many others on this thread allowed your prejudices and biases to prejudge this woman. Her race was unknown until the the 10th or 11th page of this thread. Someone living in rural Louisiana in a trailer park could have just as easily been a white woman, but your prejudices toward Blacks allowed you to assume without corroborating information that she was Black.

So, if you are saying that liberals prefer facts before pre-judging, perhaps I need to rethink my voting patterns, and vote "D" straight down the ballot. Of course, if I voted like that, I would be someone who could not think for oneself. Therefore, I will remain an "I" voter and stick to the facts.

NP here, who generally agrees with the PP directly above, BUT her name was revealed at the beginning of the thread, and it was a distinctively black name. So, I assumed from the first page that the mother was black because of her name. If her name had been Ann or Sheila or Lisa, I would not have made any assumption about her race. I don't think it requires any racial prejudice to assume that someone named Shaqueta is African American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

This.......

I am not a liberal and your rush to judgment, again, to label people says a lot about you. Perahps you have a reading comprehension deficiency, so to clear it up for you, no one said it was okay to have six kids, and I thought it was five, by different men. Of course since you don't know how many men fathered the children, you speculated and rushed to judgment again. Personally, I think in this day and age, it is irresponsible to have six kids whether it is with six men or one.

What people, including myself have repeatedly stated is that her sexual history should not be open for discussion. Her leaving the children alone and the reason(s) why are open for discussion. Also, it is interesting that you state that being Black excuses any responsibility or accountability. You and many others on this thread allowed your prejudices and biases to prejudge this woman. Her race was unknown until the the 10th or 11th page of this thread. Someone living in rural Louisiana in a trailer park could have just as easily been a white woman, but your prejudices toward Blacks allowed you to assume without corroborating information that she was Black.

So, if you are saying that liberals prefer facts before pre-judging, perhaps I need to rethink my voting patterns, and vote "D" straight down the ballot. Of course, if I voted like that, I would be someone who could not think for oneself. Therefore, I will remain an "I" voter and stick to the facts.

NP here, who generally agrees with the PP directly above, BUT her name was revealed at the beginning of the thread, and it was a distinctively black name. So, I assumed from the first page that the mother was black because of her name. If her name had been Ann or Sheila or Lisa, I would not have made any assumption about her race. I don't think it requires any racial prejudice to assume that someone named Shaqueta is African American.

If her name had been Lisa, with 6 kids by 4 different men, 26 years old, children burned inside home......I still would have thought, trailer trash and what the hell was she doing leaving her kids alone? Relax already with the racism crap.
I personally still would have posted everything I did, even if she wasn't black and maybe others would have too. She didn't get ripped apart because she was black. She got ripped apart because she is a poor excuse for a parent and a role model for her kids.

[Anonymous]

Trash is trash.

Trash knows no color.

[Anonymous]

Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

Well, your parents were irresponsible. Is that the point you want to make?

Do we need to tell you again, this lady was not in school or working. She was in the fucking club shaking her ass!!! And you are talking about the awful people on this board who have an opinion about her and her trashy self? Please, go to sleep.

[Anonymous]

Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

What is the point of this story? That parents can make some really irresponsible decisions and their kids might not necessarily die?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

What is the point of this story? That parents can make some really irresponsible decisions and their kids might not necessarily die?

What's the point of this entire thread other than to wax on and on about what a terrible parent some woman we don't doing some things we don't think we'll ever do, with 5 kids that we'd never have unless we're independently wealthy as one person said, living in a trailer that we'd never live in, and on and on and on. Talk about a bunch of elitist assholes having fun talking about someone like your opinion is worth anything at all. But I'm sure you all feel superior. Oh. That was the point of this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

What is the point of this story? That parents can make some really irresponsible decisions and their kids might not necessarily die?

What's the point of this entire thread other than to wax on and on about what a terrible parent some woman we don't doing some things we don't think we'll ever do, with 5 kids that we'd never have unless we're independently wealthy as one person said, living in a trailer that we'd never live in, and on and on and on. Talk about a bunch of elitist assholes having fun talking about someone like your opinion is worth anything at all. But I'm sure you all feel superior. Oh. That was the point of this thread.

No. You are wrong.

The point of this thread was to vent about how irresponsible this mother was and how furious people felt that she left her babies alone so she could go out and party.

Would you do such a thing? I bet anyone with some sense of responsibility would pass on a night out if it meant leaving their child/children alone at home.

There are other poor people who would also pass because on a night out , despite living in the ghetto or a trailor park, because even though they are not rich they love their kids and have a sense of responsibility.

To add, this mother has had previous CPS issues regarding her parenting. So excuse us for being pissed off about such a woman.