Immigration - how is it such a huge issue in this race?

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Anonymous wrote:No, it's because as pp said resources are finite. We've seen this first hand. When your kids are in a school where poverty has grown to over 60% free lunch in less than 10 yrs, the school starts scaling back.
Ex. Your child is reading below grade level or you suspect an issue you are told all is fine. That's because there are so many children at the school who are either doing worse or who are new arrivals and cannot read at all.

Yikes. This hits home in FCPS.

come to Sterling Middle school and see what Democrat policies have done to the middle class. Title one school , gangs, kids without parents, kids cant speak English.

and Democratic politicians are NEVER seen there. Warner, Kaine, Conelly never seen or helping.

When they don't visit the schools or see firsthand what's happening, they can pretend problems don't exist.

My children attend public schools in a city people claim is ‘overrun’ with immigrants. No issues for my kids.

As I think you would know, schools can vary greatly within a city or school system-- even schools within a couple of miles of each other. Do your children attend a public school in which 75+ % of the students are identified as learning English as a second language and possibly Title 1 as well?

These children are spread across schools. I don’t think you understand how capable the school system is. An influx of a relatively small percentage of children is not going to break it. It is pure propaganda to make it seem like it’s a ‘crisis’ for everyone. Is it an important issue? Sure. Is it a crisis ? Nope

25% of the students in FCPS are ESL. That is not sustainable.

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Anonymous wrote:No, it's because as pp said resources are finite. We've seen this first hand. When your kids are in a school where poverty has grown to over 60% free lunch in less than 10 yrs, the school starts scaling back.
Ex. Your child is reading below grade level or you suspect an issue you are told all is fine. That's because there are so many children at the school who are either doing worse or who are new arrivals and cannot read at all.

Yikes. This hits home in FCPS.

come to Sterling Middle school and see what Democrat policies have done to the middle class. Title one school , gangs, kids without parents, kids cant speak English.

and Democratic politicians are NEVER seen there. Warner, Kaine, Conelly never seen or helping.

When they don't visit the schools or see firsthand what's happening, they can pretend problems don't exist.

My children attend public schools in a city people claim is ‘overrun’ with immigrants. No issues for my kids.

As I think you would know, schools can vary greatly within a city or school system-- even schools within a couple of miles of each other. Do your children attend a public school in which 75+ % of the students are identified as learning English as a second language and possibly Title 1 as well?

These children are spread across schools. I don’t think you understand how capable the school system is. An influx of a relatively small percentage of children is not going to break it. It is pure propaganda to make it seem like it’s a ‘crisis’ for everyone. Is it an important issue? Sure. Is it a crisis ? Nope

The thing is: in some districts the population isn’t small. It’s rather large and taxing the system.

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Anonymous wrote:I've been paying attention and immigration is not one of my top concerns. It's a huge issue in the race because Trump and his team know it's divisive and have therefore villainized immigrants and his base loves it.

This is the correct answer

Nonsense. I'm not a Trump supporter. Many of the DCUM posters aren't impacted by this issue and don't care how it affects others.

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Anonymous wrote:Apologies if there’s another thread on this…

But really? It seems like people I know who are not particularly affected by this issue are focused on it as a deciding factor in the election. It’s immigration, immigration, immigration.

Is immigration that terrible for our country? In my world at least, the most obvious related issue I see is that small businesses don’t have enough labor. So immigration is a good thing.

Maybe I’m myopic. Can someone please explain?

I live in an agricultural area, which has been forever altered by immigration. Whether it’s been undocumented or lowskilled-legal cause farmers “need labor”.

Even though I probably wont vote for Trump (which I never have in the past either) I think he’s a blessing when it comes to the immigration discussion. FINALLY we might vote out the elitist in my district, FINALLY immigration is something both parties acknowledge is ridiculous. FINALLY people are taking seriously the issues that come with mass migration of people who.. and this is the honest to God truth: don’t have even the equivalent of a GED, but then have 5+ kids.. (who the community and taxpayers become responsible for through different government programs).


1. Thank you Trump for making immigration an issue to be discussed in terms of restriction.
2. Thank you Biden for, in an attempt to placate your voters—caused the biggest surge of migrants in 20 years.. many of who were allowed in.
3. Thank you both Biden and Abbot for sending these huge amounts of migrants to dark-blue big cities so they get a taste of of the issues we’ve dealt with, somewhat comparable to where I live.

Immigration is fine and dandy when it’s high-skilled migrants who can afford to live here by virtue of their high-skilled and much needed job.

It’s different when it’s people who either work under the table and thus contribute nothing to taxes, or even if they have an ITIN—they have 5+ citizen kids we have to provide snap, medicaid, CHIP, k-12 education ESL classes for, etc…


Tl;dr it’s an issue because areas where Democrats have a supermajority are feeling the pain that border ciries and agricultural areas have been feeling for the past 30 years.

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Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

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Anonymous wrote:Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

Umm have you ever met any Lebanese people?

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Harris is plain stupid, dumb wacko. Just memorizes and talks a good talk. Typical empty suit.

Voting for Trump on immigration.

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I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!

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Anonymous wrote:Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

Umm have you ever met any Lebanese people?

Yes, the two I know both participated in anti-Semitic, pro-terrorism rallies on college campuses. And, instead of canceling their student visas, this administration is giving them TPS and work permits.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!

Yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

Umm have you ever met any Lebanese people?

Yes, the two I know both participated in anti-Semitic, pro-terrorism rallies on college campuses. And, instead of canceling their student visas, this administration is giving them TPS and work permits.

Them being antisemitic isn’t cool. But that’s not even an issue here.

The ISSUE is that TPS, you know..TEMPORARY protected status… is now a joke. It’s quite literally a joke—pretty sure in the 20 years TPS has been a thing, only Trump has ever EVEN ATTEMPTED to end it.

Even though temporary is in the name.. all these articles coming out about “how horrible it was to end TPS 16 years later after all these peoppe have made a life here and put down roots”.

🤦🤦🤦🤦

It’s only meant to be temporary, and this is also why undocumented people shouldn’t be able to put down any sort of roots at all. Then it becomes a sob story.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris is plain stupid, dumb wacko. Just memorizes and talks a good talk. Typical empty suit.

Voting for Trump on immigration.

Have you watched a Trump speech or interview?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe someone started a thread asking why immigration is a huge issue in this race. It boggles the mind that someone can’t understand why such a huge task of the federal government would be a concern to voters. Are DC liberals this out of touch with the mainstream?!

and it happened in 2016 plain as day.

3 Supreme Court picks lost because Hillary lost to an idiot like Trump!!!

Hillary wanted to expand HXXX1B program and replace US workers with hundreds of thousands of guest workers.

https://youtu.be/AOW0cUaGWZU

Trump was the ONLY candidate to advocate for less immigration.   Both parties push for more immigration to replace US workers.  But Trump won even though Democrats used to be the party of labor.

3 Supreme Court picks lost because Hillary lost to an idiot like Trump!!!

If Democrats reduced the overwhelming immigration and focused on US workers first, they would never lose. but they forgot the lessons of Hillary/2016

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Anonymous wrote:Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

Umm have you ever met any Lebanese people?

Yes, the two I know both participated in anti-Semitic, pro-terrorism rallies on college campuses. And, instead of canceling their student visas, this administration is giving them TPS and work permits.

Them being antisemitic isn’t cool. But that’s not even an issue here.

The ISSUE is that TPS, you know..TEMPORARY protected status… is now a joke. It’s quite literally a joke—pretty sure in the 20 years TPS has been a thing, only Trump has ever EVEN ATTEMPTED to end it.

Even though temporary is in the name.. all these articles coming out about “how horrible it was to end TPS 16 years later after all these peoppe have made a life here and put down roots”.

🤦🤦🤦🤦

It’s only meant to be temporary, and this is also why undocumented people shouldn’t be able to put down any sort of roots at all. Then it becomes a sob story.

+1 this is the pull. Come to the border, "apply" for asylum, set down roots, asylum denied 7+ years later but of course now they've put down roots and had American citizen children who would suffer hardship if they're deported. We should adopt the Australian model of keeping people offshore until their asylum cases are heard.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allowing unvetted Lebanese to stay/arrive and work is certainly going to help Harris, right? At this point, I am pretty sure Biden is intentionally undermining her.

Umm have you ever met any Lebanese people?

Yes, the two I know both participated in anti-Semitic, pro-terrorism rallies on college campuses. And, instead of canceling their student visas, this administration is giving them TPS and work permits.

Them being antisemitic isn’t cool. But that’s not even an issue here.

The ISSUE is that TPS, you know..TEMPORARY protected status… is now a joke. It’s quite literally a joke—pretty sure in the 20 years TPS has been a thing, only Trump has ever EVEN ATTEMPTED to end it.

Even though temporary is in the name.. all these articles coming out about “how horrible it was to end TPS 16 years later after all these peoppe have made a life here and put down roots”.

🤦🤦🤦🤦

It’s only meant to be temporary, and this is also why undocumented people shouldn’t be able to put down any sort of roots at all. Then it becomes a sob story.

+1 this is the pull. Come to the border, "apply" for asylum, set down roots, asylum denied 7+ years later but of course now they've put down roots and had American citizen children who would suffer hardship if they're deported. We should adopt the Australian model of keeping people offshore until their asylum cases are heard.

Definitely. Take away birthright citizenship, keep asylum seekers offshore until we actually accept these people, and we should also go a step further like the Aussies had to do and do refugee swaps with other countries so that actually no person who starts out by applying for asylum here ends up staying here permanently. People should seek asylum in their closest country. We’re not the closest country for anyone except potentially a Mexican national. Someone picking and choosing where they live is not a genuine refugee.