DUI and Death on Harrison

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No bond. Next court date is in two months. this is public info.

Does that mean he stays in jail until the court date?

If the judge denied bond this morning, his lawyer can petition a higher court for a bond hearing. But yes, for now, he's in jail. And if the higher court denies bond, he'll stay in jail.

I wonder if the decision to refuse a breathalyzer and blood test at the scene is at all a factor? That shows a level of non-cooperation the judge could take into consideration. I don't know how judges decide these things though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know what happened this morning? His court date was at 9am.

He was arraigned this morning and the preliminary hearing Dec. 16. He's still in custody.

I'm sure his lawyer is filing for a bond hearing unless they also did that this morning and the general district judge still did not grant bond.

Thanks for the updates and info PPs

[Anonymous]

I can't believe he's only charged with a class 5 felony. That's absurd!

My neighbor was arrested on a class 5 felony charge for computer fraud. He did a deal with the CA and pled down to a misdemeanor.

I bet with the aid of a good lawyer he'll be able to plead down as well.

[Anonymous]

What he did was wrong but I feel awful for him. He must be so scared right now. This is a terrible, tragic situation for all sides and for both families. They deserve our support and prayers in this trying time. This makes me want to go and hug my family tightly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Such a horribly sad situation. I live in Arlington and have many 2nd and 3rd degree connections with both families. These are good kids we’re talking about! As are most kids, partiers or not. My heart breaks for all concerned. Of course the deceased boy’s parents most of all. He was an only child and a smart, kind young man. Why do our smart kind young men put themselves in these situations?

Omg this is devastating. His poor parents.

It would be somehow less devastating if he had siblings and didn't do as well in school?

WTF is wrong with you?

Wtf is wrong with YOU? You can’t understand how parents losing their only child- a young adult- is absolutely devastating in its own special hell?

My relatives lost their only adult son in a tragic way. They separated for a long time over grief issues. Reconciled but their marriage was never the same. One ended up dying essentially of a broken heart.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No bond. Next court date is in two months. this is public info.

Does that mean he stays in jail until the court date?

If the judge denied bond this morning, his lawyer can petition a higher court for a bond hearing. But yes, for now, he's in jail. And if the higher court denies bond, he'll stay in jail.

I wonder if the decision to refuse a breathalyzer and blood test at the scene is at all a factor? That shows a level of non-cooperation the judge could take into consideration. I don't know how judges decide these things though.

Doubtful. A good many DUI suspects refuse the breathalyzer. It's a roll of the dice. Will your BAC be higher or lower by the time a warrant for a blood draw is obtained? A refusal of the breathalyzer in VA means you automatically lose your license right then but that could be a better outcome for many. Also, a lot of times the refusal charge will get dropped when bargaining with the CA (commonwealth attorney).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What he did was wrong but I feel awful for him. He must be so scared right now. This is a terrible, tragic situation for all sides and for both families. They deserve our support and prayers in this trying time. This makes me want to go and hug my family tightly.

He’s an adult. His drunk driving caused his car to flip over and ejected a passenger who died. Also, he refused a breathalyzer on scene. Four other passengers were in the car and imagine the trauma they endured.

Perhaps Mr. Bare will use this time to think about how his actions have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver and other passengers all walked away with minor injuries. The story should include information about who was belted or not, because seatbelts do save lives and young people too often overlook them.

It is very appropriately more about the deadly consequences of drinking and driving, and by underaged young adults.

Wearing seatbelts are just as important, as demonstrated by this tragedy.

The people who blow off not wearing seatbelts sound just as bad as the people blowing off driving under the influence.

no because not wearing a seatbelt only put himself at risk.

[Anonymous]

Arlington doesn’t mess around:

Booking 2024-00004805

Booking Date
10/12/2024 8:21 AM
Total Bond Amount
$0.00
Bond Type Bond Amount
No data
Charges Court Date Court
1 10/15/2024 9:00 AM Arlington County General District Court
1 12/16/2024 11:30 AM Arlington County General District Court
Number Charge Description Offense Date Docket Number Sentence Date Disposition Disposition Date Sentence Length Arresting Agency
1 DUI MANSLAUGHTER: INVOLUNTARY 10/12/2024 9:00 AM GT24018250

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No bond. Next court date is in two months. this is public info.

Does that mean he stays in jail until the court date?

If the judge denied bond this morning, his lawyer can petition a higher court for a bond hearing. But yes, for now, he's in jail. And if the higher court denies bond, he'll stay in jail.

I wonder if the decision to refuse a breathalyzer and blood test at the scene is at all a factor? That shows a level of non-cooperation the judge could take into consideration. I don't know how judges decide these things though.

Doubtful. A good many DUI suspects refuse the breathalyzer. It's a roll of the dice. Will your BAC be higher or lower by the time a warrant for a blood draw is obtained? A refusal of the breathalyzer in VA means you automatically lose your license right then but that could be a better outcome for many. Also, a lot of times the refusal charge will get dropped when bargaining with the CA (commonwealth attorney).

How does an 18 year old know that he should refuse the breathalyzer? Do teens talk about this and advise each other to not take it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Such a horribly sad situation. I live in Arlington and have many 2nd and 3rd degree connections with both families. These are good kids we’re talking about! As are most kids, partiers or not. My heart breaks for all concerned. Of course the deceased boy’s parents most of all. He was an only child and a smart, kind young man. Why do our smart kind young men put themselves in these situations?

Omg this is devastating. His poor parents.

It would be somehow less devastating if he had siblings and didn't do as well in school?

WTF is wrong with you?

Wtf is wrong with YOU? You can’t understand how parents losing their only child- a young adult- is absolutely devastating in its own special hell?

My relatives lost their only adult son in a tragic way. They separated for a long time over grief issues. Reconciled but their marriage was never the same. One ended up dying essentially of a broken heart.

+1 I know three families who lost a child young. One was an only child and the couple was not able to have more and I agree that it is uniquely devastating. Of course, it's devastating to lose a child no matter the circumstances. But losing your only one takes you from having children to not having any. From a parenting life and looking ahead to future grandchildren to none of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What he did was wrong but I feel awful for him. He must be so scared right now. This is a terrible, tragic situation for all sides and for both families. They deserve our support and prayers in this trying time. This makes me want to go and hug my family tightly.

He’s an adult. His drunk driving caused his car to flip over and ejected a passenger who died. Also, he refused a breathalyzer on scene. Four other passengers were in the car and imagine the trauma they endured.

Perhaps Mr. Bare will use this time to think about how his actions have consequences.

The surviving passengers got in the car too with a drunk driver. They bear some responsibility as well, if not legal then morally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What he did was wrong but I feel awful for him. He must be so scared right now. This is a terrible, tragic situation for all sides and for both families. They deserve our support and prayers in this trying time. This makes me want to go and hug my family tightly.

He’s an adult. His drunk driving caused his car to flip over and ejected a passenger who died. Also, he refused a breathalyzer on scene. Four other passengers were in the car and imagine the trauma they endured.

Perhaps Mr. Bare will use this time to think about how his actions have consequences.

The surviving passengers got in the car too with a drunk driver. They bear some responsibility as well, if not legal then morally.

+1

There were multiple people here who made bad choices.

You aren't absolved just because someone else made a worse choice.

[Anonymous]

Is it just assumed that he was not wearing a seatbelt because he was ejected? I haven’t seen any article confirming that he was not wearing one. Seems difficult to be ejected from the middle backseat (any real evidence that’s where he was?) with a person on each side of you unless the car splits open or a door opens during the crash. Any reports on the model of vehicle?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver and other passengers all walked away with minor injuries. The story should include information about who was belted or not, because seatbelts do save lives and young people too often overlook them.

It is very appropriately more about the deadly consequences of drinking and driving, and by underaged young adults.

Wearing seatbelts are just as important, as demonstrated by this tragedy.

The people who blow off not wearing seatbelts sound just as bad as the people blowing off driving under the influence.

no because not wearing a seatbelt only put himself at risk.

If we are talking about fatalities (we are), then the risks of not wearing a seatbelt is just as important as drinking & driving.

what % of people who die from car accidents weren't wearing seatbelts?
what % of people who drive while under the influence ever get into an accident?