DUI and Death on Harrison

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

You give a curfew to your college age students home on fall break? I mean come on the issue is not that the kid was driving a car that may have been funded by his parents. The issue is that the kid decided to drink and drive. Still not a reflection on the parents.

This is what we’re up against. This mindset. If you feel good about it, go to sleep and don’t worry about your 18 year old who is a known partier driving around in the middle of the night in the car you own and pay for that your family calls “Johnny’s car”. Sleep like a baby. Not your problem.

I guarantee you this has very much now become his parents problem.

If my kid tells me they’re the DD I believe them because they’ve given me no other reason not to trust them. You are making a ton of assumptions about a family who You don’t even know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

[Anonymous]

The first time back from college is one of the most dangerous times for old friends meeting up. They have tasted the freedom of college, and some are at big party drinking culture schools. They are all asserting independence. Be extra vigilant when your kids are back home from college and heading out with friends. They have been living a lifestyle vastly different than when under your roof and the security if college campus on foot is not there. Boys this age in particular are tough when adults- but not really adults. Thoughts and immense prayers to everyone involved. Such an awful tragedy.

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

You give a curfew to your college age students home on fall break? I mean come on the issue is not that the kid was driving a car that may have been funded by his parents. The issue is that the kid decided to drink and drive. Still not a reflection on the parents.

This is what we’re up against. This mindset. If you feel good about it, go to sleep and don’t worry about your 18 year old who is a known partier driving around in the middle of the night in the car you own and pay for that your family calls “Johnny’s car”. Sleep like a baby. Not your problem.

I guarantee you this has very much now become his parents problem.

If my kid tells me they’re the DD I believe them because they’ve given me no other reason not to trust them. You are making a ton of assumptions about a family who You don’t even know.

Did you see “known partier”

That is great about your DD and how trustworthy they are. Sincerely. I think it’s important for the community to talk openly about bad collective decisions from some parents where we all ignore and enable what we know is going on.

[Anonymous]

So sad for W-L. They had another student killed by a drunk McLean HS teen not far from this accident just 2 years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

I’m not a lawyer and don’t know but if their car I wonder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The first time back from college is one of the most dangerous times for old friends meeting up. They have tasted the freedom of college, and some are at big party drinking culture schools. They are all asserting independence. Be extra vigilant when your kids are back home from college and heading out with friends. They have been living a lifestyle vastly different than when under your roof and the security if college campus on foot is not there. Boys this age in particular are tough when adults- but not really adults. Thoughts and immense prayers to everyone involved. Such an awful tragedy.

One million percent. 30 years ago my brother’s two best friends were involved in a fatal drunk driving accident while home from college for Thanksgiving freshman year. Two families whose lives changed forever. The driver of the car is still paying for that terrible decision in many ways.

I am also a big believer that parents who allow drinking at their home should be held liable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

Mid course they can if he was on their insurance which he almost certainly was. This could easily bankrupt them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So sad for W-L. They had another student killed by a drunk McLean HS teen not far from this accident just 2 years ago.

And nothing happened to that kid. He was under 18. This is a totally different situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So sad for W-L. They had another student killed by a drunk McLean HS teen not far from this accident just 2 years ago.

And nothing happened to that kid. He was under 18. This is a totally different situation.

Uh no it is not a “totally” different situation. These young men are 6 months apart in age, who chose to DUI and killed another kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

Mid course they can if he was on their insurance which he almost certainly was. This could easily bankrupt them.

No, it won’t. That’s not how it works when the kid is over 18. Not how insurance works. They might spend all of their assets on a very expensive attorney though.

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

Mid course they can if he was on their insurance which he almost certainly was. This could easily bankrupt them.

No, it won’t. That’s not how it works when the kid is over 18. Not how insurance works. They might spend all of their assets on a very expensive attorney though.

Why isn’t it? If it’s the parents insurance policy that’s who the families will go after. It’s one reason I don’t let anyone drive my cars. If they get into an accident, it’s on my insurance, not theirs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shame on parents? Do you think children are robots who always follow the rules? I ou think kids are a reflection of their parents at all times? This kid made a terrible, deadly mistake. You have no idea about his parents or what they have taught him.

Just as a point of fact. The 18 year old was likely driving his parents car around at 2am. Unless he owned his own vehicle. So at a minimum we know they allowed that. Which on its face is not a great plan.

Good point. The families will probably sue the pants off the bare family.

Bare is an adult and can be sued but he may not have anything to his name. I doubt the parents can be.

Mid course they can if he was on their insurance which he almost certainly was. This could easily bankrupt them.

I know tow families of drivers in a death case. Both families lost their houses because they spent a lot of money trying to keep their sons out of jail. Both were fairly successful in that they only spent under 5 years in jail.

[Anonymous]

There is a term called “vicarious liability,” which means as a parent and vehicle owner, you may not be free from liability.

Not sure how it would apply in this situation.

[Anonymous]

I think people get so angry at the parents because this is so horrible and they feel like they need to blame someone, and if they think the other parents are bad parents then they feel safe that it won’t ever happen to their own kids, because they feel confident that they themselves are good parents.