Sharing pronouns at work

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a cis white female and list my pronouns in my email signature. My LGBTQAI colleagues appreciate it and it’s easy enough for me to do. I work in healthcare and when we share our pronouns, it gives pts permission to share theirs.

In my experience transgender folks aren't shy and a lot of it is about getting attention and being special. They don't need my pronouns to feel comfortable sharing.

Pray tell how much experience do you have with “transgender folks?”

It’s so incredibly rare it would amaze me if you had interactions with more than one or two, if that. Which is hardly a representative sample on which to make such a broad generalization.

1/3 of teenage girls that I see. All the same ones whose parents protected them from every harm and struggle earlier in life. Now they will commit suicide if called by the standard English words associated with their birthed gender. Thank god they were and continue to be “protected” from the world.

You are completely full of shit and sound like a histrionic ninny.

You know you are just demonstrating that you have no argument and have nothing to say when all you can do is call someone names, yes? This does nothing to advance your cause and only highlights the insanity of the pronoun people.

Employing childish insults is the hallmark of a weak or nonexistent argument.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is that everyone listing pronouns makes it easier for people with non-obvious ones to announce theirs without having to feel as singled out.

I’m confused why you find it so uncomfortable to list yours. All you need to do is update your signature one time and it’s done. It’s not like this makes added work for you.

Maybe because we don't buy in to the possibility of anyone being gender fluid in a sexually dimorphic species. Our including our "pronouns" lends validity to a scientifically absurd idea. So, no, thank you.

Exactly

The idea of a gender separate from biology is simply a subjective belief, like a belief in ghosts - not some newly discovered characteristic of our species

Some people believe in it, lots don’t

This is why I don't understand introducing this concept to kindergarten and elementary kids. It's actually rather sophisticated. First, you need to understand basic biology and the difference between the sexes. Then you need to understand this psychological concept that gender identity is something separate and apart from sex. Then you need to be able to reconcile the two. I can't possibly imagine how a kid under 10 is able to articulate that.

"My friend Bobby has a penis like my brother, and he likes dressing like and playing with the things me and my friends who are girls like."

I dunno, my 9 y.o. handles this just fine with one of her closest friends.

But even there, your very accepting child is still using the masculine pronoun for Bobby in your example. It takes another rather extraordinary leap in logic to believe that wearing dresses trumps one's physical body and makes someone a girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Just add your pronouns. It’s not a big deal. And it makes certain marginalized individuals feel better. Why is it so hard for so many people to be a kind human? (I’m not referring to you in particular.)

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I refuse to.

Pressuring people to share pronouns at work could make someone who isn't ready to come out yet, extremely uncomfortable if their work colleagues are demanding they pick an identity when they're not ready yet to disclose.

It's stupid insanity. Just go to work and do your damn jobs. No one cares where you stick your penis or open your vagina to. No one cares if Jane identifies as Jim, or whether Connie is sexually attracted to inanimate objects. I'm so tired of all of the monthly ID crap. It changes all the time, and if you don't stay updated, they'll try to destroy you in social media because you may be some kind of X, Y, Z -ist, when all you wanted to do is go to work and go home.

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Anonymous wrote:I am queer and will never “proactively” share my pronouns. I’m a woman. It’s obvious. This is such virtue signaling bs I can’t even. This makes me so mad.

Why doesn’t it make you mad? The point is to do one small thing that can help make other people’s lives easier. Is it really that difficult to edit your email signature?

In real life, this has zero impact. It’s woke virtue signaling that I will not support.

What is “woke virtue signaling” in your view?

A term used when someone doesn’t want to look at any situation or belief that makes them even slightly uncomfortable, so they cry virtue signaling as a way of name calling and discrediting. It’s a self righteous trolling phrase. And a tired one at that.

Clear who the overpaid DEI officer is making 6 figure salaries for doing nothing but producing a lot of hot air at work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Why don't you use:
private/private/private if you don't want people to know your pronouns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My gender or pronouns have nothing to do with my work ethic or quality of work I produce. I'm another woman in a STEM field, and it wouldn't bother me if people assumed I was a man.

I recently sat through college orientation where every single student leader and staff speaker introduced themselves with pronouns. Huge virtue signaling and huge waste of time since we then did not interact with 80% of the students or speakers face-to-face AND the pronouns were on each name tag. We had zero need to refer to these folks by their pronouns. Just dumb.

Those dumb kids will soon replace you. Your comments about “virtue signaling” indicate that you are outdated and don’t get it and are hostile to change and inclusivity. You are probably going to get sacked soon.

At some point, all of the insane ID crap the DEI gestapo tries force onto people will make the work environents so intolerable in the US that I wouldn't doubt at all we'd see a huge brain drain. The workplace in the US is getting so looney I am already seriously considering leaving and taking all of my valuable skills to Asia, where they don't give a crap about this stuff.

Me seriously, how do you expect to run a team meeting because transgendered Chris is pissed off at Larry on the team for not including emails stating that he is a he? How do you run teams when they're divided into ID camps because group X is accusing group Y of being MAGA because they didn't volunteer for pride activities during the month?

It's insane and going to kill the US economy as talent leaves to flee better opportunities in the world where all they care about is going to work and going home.

[Anonymous]

I work with/write emails with non-Americans and non-native English speakers frequently. Most Americans know my first name is usually female, but other people don't know or often assume I'm a man (unless they've met me in person, in which case I'm very obviously a woman ). I often get emails that address me as Mr. I really DGAF and it's hard to understand why anyone else does.

[Anonymous]

I haven't read 15 pages of pissing match but if i have a 100% man's name, like Michael, John, or Derrick or whatever, do I still have to use it to be politically correct and not hurt anyone's feeling? Serious question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Just add your pronouns. It’s not a big deal. And it makes certain marginalized individuals feel better. Why is it so hard for so many people to be a kind human? (I’m not referring to you in particular.)

What if some marginalized person had body dysmorphia, and felt better if everyone put their height and weight in their email signature, so they'd know if the person they were emailing were fatter or thinner?

[Anonymous]

I refuse to be characterized by the English language or any language. I identify with mathematics.

Please refer to me as #69 from now on!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Just add your pronouns. It’s not a big deal. And it makes certain marginalized individuals feel better. Why is it so hard for so many people to be a kind human? (I’m not referring to you in particular.)

If you google “NPC” it will help you understand why you don’t understand why some people don’t want to “just add” their pronouns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read 15 pages of pissing match but if i have a 100% man's name, like Michael, John, or Derrick or whatever, do I still have to use it to be politically correct and not hurt anyone's feeling? Serious question.

The pronoun people want everyone to put their pronouns out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read 15 pages of pissing match but if i have a 100% man's name, like Michael, John, or Derrick or whatever, do I still have to use it to be politically correct and not hurt anyone's feeling? Serious question.

The most extreme people claim that if you don't post your pronouns then you are injuring a non-binary person who won't feel safe sharing their identity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday my company had an Inclusivity training for managers, and during this training one of the topics discussed was micro aggressions in the workplace. The goal was to educate managers on all things that could be perceived as offensive to employees.

One thing that came up is the use of pronouns in our email signatures as well as when we introduce ourselves in meetings. The facilitator of the training said it’s offensive and unsupportive for ALL employees to not follow this protocol of including our pronouns.

The company asked us to start including/using them a year or so ago and maybe 50% of employees max do. I am one of the employees who does not list or proactively share my pronouns, which I feel is equally my right to do.

What I don’t understand is how this specific inaction OFFENDS others and looks like I am not supportive. As a straight female does listing she/her/hers indicate support? Overall my company is very inclusive and a decent number of employees are not straight, so this is definitely not just a handful of people being singled out.

Now we have all been asked again to add our pronouns by the end of the week or it will signal to employees that we don’t support equality or something like that. I truly don’t understand. Can someone enlighten me?

Again I am all for anyone listing their pronouns who wants to, I don’t understand why it’s essentially mandatory for all to do so.

Just add your pronouns. It’s not a big deal. And it makes certain marginalized individuals feel better. Why is it so hard for so many people to be a kind human? (I’m not referring to you in particular.)

There is nothing kind about compelled pronouns, particularly to women who have historically faced tremendous workplace discrimination.