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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.




I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?
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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo


Neither UVA nor UMich has a downward trend on US News. UVA has been holding very steady and UMich has generally been on an upswing. Idiot.



Actually, in this same USNWR announcement, UVA also moved up to no. 3 in top public universities in America. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. So it's 25 when lumped in with all the other schools but no 3 in the public school list. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public


The only thing tied with Michigan is its USNWR ranking. Academically it trails at just about everything else. I did notice that McIntire fell to #8 in the business school rankings. There are 6 schools here including IU!


UVA doesn't come close to Michigan in anything except it does a good job of boasting and striving. My kid did not even want to apply to UVA and went to top 15 school so don't even try with that pathetic oh your kid didn't get in BS.


Emory isn't in the top 15.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.




I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?


I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.


You post this on every single thread. I'm sorry you were denied. It's probably time to move on.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.




I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?


I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.


Probably not . College football gives ND a lot of visibility and popularity. Did Rudy grow up wanting to play at Harvard or Stanford?
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.




I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?


I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.


Probably not . College football gives ND a lot of visibility and popularity. Did Rudy grow up wanting to play at Harvard or Stanford?


Good point. Slumming it...head for harvard or Stanford. High end is ND bound!
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.




I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?


I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.


the Chevy Chase neighborhoods surrounding Blessed Sacrament / CCC have some car stickers.

I was shocked to see an ND badge on the car of our newest neighbor in CCDC because we're outside the orbit (tentacles?) of Blessed Sacrament. I worry we're getting more Repube in 20015, I've definitely noticed an uptick as the area has grown so much more expensive compared to its ACLU / journalist / Jewish / non-profit days.
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Look, can we please stop being so silly. Hate Notre Dame, love Notre Dame. Think it’s a great school, think it sucks. Whatever. The fact remains that it’s an extremely selective school and that its domestic undergraduate student body is a lot more diverse geographically than just about any school in the country - including every school in the Ivy League. It’s had many students from the Northeast and Far West literally for generations, because that’s where the majority of Catholics are located. California in general. Philly, New York, Boston, Baltimore etc. Just spend a couple minutes googling the actual statistics instead of arguing about how often you see a local kid in a Notre Dame t-shirt.

Ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.


You post this on every single thread. I'm sorry you were denied. It's probably time to move on.


It is impressive to me that Georgetown continues to attract such impressive students and rank as highly as they do with their financial limitations. If they can continue to invest well and generate high-end donations, they have a lot of upside.

Gtown is tied with Emory this year but has an endowment smaller than many of the elite liberal arts colleges (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and Bowdoin).

Peers like Emory, WashU, Vandy, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and NYU all have endowments of over $5.5 billion compared under $2.6 billion for GTown. $$ is a real issue for Georgetown.
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Anonymous wrote:Look, can we please stop being so silly. Hate Notre Dame, love Notre Dame. Think it’s a great school, think it sucks. Whatever. The fact remains that it’s an extremely selective school and that its domestic undergraduate student body is a lot more diverse geographically than just about any school in the country - including every school in the Ivy League. It’s had many students from the Northeast and Far West literally for generations, because that’s where the majority of Catholics are located. California in general. Philly, New York, Boston, Baltimore etc. Just spend a couple minutes googling the actual statistics instead of arguing about how often you see a local kid in a Notre Dame t-shirt.

Ridiculous.


It also isn't just a first-choice college for Catholics! That was true probably true 50+ years ago but thankfully things have changed for Catholics and Notre Dame.
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Anonymous wrote:Look, can we please stop being so silly. Hate Notre Dame, love Notre Dame. Think it’s a great school, think it sucks. Whatever. The fact remains that it’s an extremely selective school and that its domestic undergraduate student body is a lot more diverse geographically than just about any school in the country - including every school in the Ivy League. It’s had many students from the Northeast and Far West literally for generations, because that’s where the majority of Catholics are located. California in general. Philly, New York, Boston, Baltimore etc. Just spend a couple minutes googling the actual statistics instead of arguing about how often you see a local kid in a Notre Dame t-shirt.

Ridiculous.


It also isn't just a first-choice college for Catholics! That was true probably true 50+ years ago but thankfully things have changed for Catholics and Notre Dame.


+1

Schools like Notre Dame, Georgetown, and BC attract great students from all areas and backgrounds.

I think the poster's shirt point was about the pride and visibility that ND grads and their families or even just die-hard fans have. There is a reason Under Armour signed them to a $90 million apparel deal.
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It is funny how we can take the rankings movements so personally as alums. I see a drop of a few and say, what the heck?

College presidents must LOVE today.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.


You post this on every single thread. I'm sorry you were denied. It's probably time to move on.


It is impressive to me that Georgetown continues to attract such impressive students and rank as highly as they do with their financial limitations. If they can continue to invest well and generate high-end donations, they have a lot of upside.

Gtown is tied with Emory this year but has an endowment smaller than many of the elite liberal arts colleges (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and Bowdoin).

Peers like Emory, WashU, Vandy, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and NYU all have endowments of over $5.5 billion compared under $2.6 billion for GTown. $$ is a real issue for Georgetown.


Georgetown should accepting the common app.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.


Almost, but not quite!


Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!


This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.


Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.


You post this on every single thread. I'm sorry you were denied. It's probably time to move on.


It is impressive to me that Georgetown continues to attract such impressive students and rank as highly as they do with their financial limitations. If they can continue to invest well and generate high-end donations, they have a lot of upside.

Gtown is tied with Emory this year but has an endowment smaller than many of the elite liberal arts colleges (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and Bowdoin).

Peers like Emory, WashU, Vandy, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and NYU all have endowments of over $5.5 billion compared under $2.6 billion for GTown. $$ is a real issue for Georgetown.


Georgetown should accepting the common app.


You should learn English.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo


UVA moved up a spot, so why does that make them losers? And are now clearly ahead of UNC where they had been tied before.
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