Official US news 2023 thread

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo

UVA moved up a spot, so why does that make them losers? And are now clearly ahead of UNC where they had been tied before.

Actually they stayed the same. 25 last year as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.

I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?

I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.

Probably not . College football gives ND a lot of visibility and popularity. Did Rudy grow up wanting to play at Harvard or Stanford?

Rudy was from a high-end area?

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo

UVA moved up a spot, so why does that make them losers? And are now clearly ahead of UNC where they had been tied before.

+1 And Michigan didn't move up. It's going down slightly as it is now tied with UVA. UVA will pass UMich next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

No one would choose Notre Dame over an Ivy with the exception of someone who values a Catholic education.

I'm not a ND grad and have to think some people would absolutely choose ND over an Ivy, especially beyond HYP. It is one of those schools that many people really do grow up dreaming about attending from a young age. ND also has more $$ than half of the Ivy League (only Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn have larger endowments), which doesn't hurt and will continue to help in the future.


Those of you who live in high-end areas must see kids wearing ND stuff! Having moved to the MD suburbs after being in Palo Alto and Mountain View, CA for most of the last decade, I've seen a lot of ND gear on both coasts.


Will the 0-2 football start hurt applications ?

I never see any. I must not be in a "high-end" enough area.

Probably not . College football gives ND a lot of visibility and popularity. Did Rudy grow up wanting to play at Harvard or Stanford?

Rudy was from a high-end area?

So high end.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo

UVA moved up a spot, so why does that make them losers? And are now clearly ahead of UNC where they had been tied before.

+1 And Michigan didn't move up. It's going down slightly as it is now tied with UVA. UVA will pass UMich next year.

Thanks for reminding me what a joke USNWR rankings are.

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Agree. There is no metric where UVA is better than Michigan in any department.

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What is the saying about US News? US News is not final because it is infallible; it is infallible because it is final?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. There is no metric where UVA is better than Michigan in any department.

I think I once read that their English department was slightly better.

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Ha I went to UVA and thrilled they are 25. But in no way are they better than Michigan. Period. End.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame at 18, tied with Columbia and only one behind Cornell.

Notre Dame is Ivy level.

Almost, but not quite!

Notre Dame would never want to join the Ivy League anyway! It is happy to be ranked right there and fully independent to print football $$!

The Ivy League isn't all it is cracked up to be. Georgetown wouldn't even give up its basketball TV $$ to join.

Remember that the ancient 8 really is just an old but now low-level athletic conference!

This! A top school that has so much more to offer than the stuffy ivies. Love it.

Georgetown has crumbling buildings and mold to offer students. I don't get why anyone would pay private school tuition to go there.

You post this on every single thread. I'm sorry you were denied. It's probably time to move on.

It is impressive to me that Georgetown continues to attract such impressive students and rank as highly as they do with their financial limitations. If they can continue to invest well and generate high-end donations, they have a lot of upside.

Gtown is tied with Emory this year but has an endowment smaller than many of the elite liberal arts colleges (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and Bowdoin).

Peers like Emory, WashU, Vandy, Rice, USC, Notre Dame, and NYU all have endowments of over $5.5 billion compared under $2.6 billion for GTown. $$ is a real issue for Georgetown.

Idk if Georgetown is an academic peer of Rice and Vandy. Their admission statistics must be very different.

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Anonymous wrote:Ha I went to UVA and thrilled they are 25. But in no way are they better than Michigan. Period. End.

+1

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If you people only knew how the sausage is made.

If you only knew.

It’s hilarious to see DCUM suckling at this teat, year after year. US News rankings are worthless. I know from 20 years of insider experience.

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Anonymous wrote:If you people only knew how the sausage is made.

If you only knew.

It’s hilarious to see DCUM suckling at this teat, year after year. US News rankings are worthless. I know from 20 years of insider experience.

Princeton? MIT? Harvard? Stanford? Yale? Seems like a pretty solid list for starters.

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Anonymous wrote:If you people only knew how the sausage is made.

If you only knew.

It’s hilarious to see DCUM suckling at this teat, year after year. US News rankings are worthless. I know from 20 years of insider experience.

Please tell us your insider experience. Seriously, I’d love to hear it.

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Ha I went to UVA and thrilled they are 25. But in no way are they better than/equal to Michigan. Period. End.