MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

Did you miss where I said "AND NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS?"

[Anonymous]

and it isn't established where the kid who said the comment about rape goes to school. And I don't think people should dig his name out and put him up on national tv either. He was part of the group of kids from the march from that diocese. From that school or not, who knows?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

THIS is your argument?

"I can't see your silent prayer!" That's because - shhhh - it's SILENT!

Even if the kid is lying (I lied to the priest at confession as a teen.), who will prove it? And a smirk is a smirk. It's a facial expression. He didn't stick his tongue out at Nathan. He didn't shout out obscenities. He stood there while Nathan drummed in his face.

But the BHI started it. I shared a video of their nasty behavior as they attacked every non-BHI who crossed their path. ADULTS engaged. So what do you expect impulsive teens to do?

And enough about the "elderly Native American." He's a kook! certifiable
He defended BHI. How many times does THIS fact need to be shared?

You got triggered by MAGA. Sorry, hon, but you better develop some thick skin soon b/c I don't think MAGA is going anywhere anytime soon.

And no - NOT a Trump supporter and not a D or R . . . just a person who views ALL news sources before drawing conclusions

Look - I get it. We hate the white boys. We view them as insular, entitled, perhaps wealthy.

Speak for yourself. "We" don't hate "white boys." The white boys and young me I know would never, ever, in a million years act the way those boys do.

And since when does criticism equate to "we hate white boys." STFU with your BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

Did you miss where I said "AND NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS?"

NP. By saying AND, you are saying it was also boys from Covington. And it was not.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

It is very hard to believe that you have watched any videos beyond the first false one, or that you have been following this story beyond left wing racist trolls.

I don't care wtf you believe. I watched the clips, from multiple perspectives, including the longer 2 hour version that all my conservative friends are crosing about.

I find it very hard to believe that YOU watched them and came back with "these kids acted perfectly fine." You're a whiner who is intent on casting these boys as victims when they weren't. They acted like jackasses. But, as I said, I can almost forgive it given they are teenagers. You, and the adults defending them, I cannot.

[Anonymous]

I am raising white boys.

And I am not raising them to think behaving like those kids is appropriate. But I wouldn't let my kids wear black face to a black out game, so there's that too.

I think this school is woefully out of touch with both our current world in the US and with technology.
That they thought the kids would be just boys being boys and did not take in to account that virtually everyone has cell phones with cameras that will document and spread like wildfire on the internet.

I bet only a very small % of these boys' parents actually check their cell phones to be sure they aren't texting things that could ruin their lives if publicized. And they completely missed that letting their kids think it is okay to behave like this in public is a huge risk in this day and age.

The internet is forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

Did you miss where I said "AND NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS?"

NP. By saying AND, you are saying it was also boys from Covington. And it was not.

They are from that diocese. They are from neighboring schools in the diocese. I believe most of the kids who go to Covington Catholic don't live in Covington.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

Did you miss where I said "AND NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS?"

NP. By saying AND, you are saying it was also boys from Covington. And it was not.

They are from that diocese. They are from neighboring schools in the diocese. I believe most of the kids who go to Covington Catholic don't live in Covington.

Excuse me. You said "other kids from that school." If you meant to say "other kids from Covington, KY" then you should have said that. Don't pretend you didn't say that kids from Covington Catholic School were yelling at women. You did.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe this has been mentioned, but I have not seen it anywhere.

A friend of my adult DS is a Native American (Turtle Mountain Chippewa, ND). For perspective, in the case of the MAGA-hat guy at the vape store and the clerk meltdown, he thought the clerk should be fired and defended the MAGA guy. He supports NA rights but is in no sense an activist.

In this case, he told me the school "cheer" is actually a Polynesian ceremonial dance which is shown in a recent superhero movie, I forget which one. He also showed me videos of the same dance being performed at Polynesian weddings (everyone in Western dress, men with their suit jackets off but in their suit pants, white shirts, and ties). I was skeptical based on the initial video, but on another (shown in the TV interviews with Sandmann) there seems to be no question my DS's friend is correct. (In the wedding video version, it comes off as bizarre because the dance appears extremely aggressive but is a ceremonial dance.)

So, cultural appropriation? I asked. He agreed.

Then the cultural appropriation is by the producers of the superhero movie, not the kids.

Actually no, according to his explanation.

I had to search around to come up with the name of the movie: Aquaman. The person leading the dance in the video our friend showed me is Jason Momoa, who plays Aquaman, and whose father is being used in connection with sports events such as rugby, and adopted and modified by, among others, Hawaiians (whose natives are descended from Polynesian settlers), with Hawaiians having incorporated legends and their own dance into their own Haka, which Momoa leads in the film.

Granted it can be tricky to navigate cultural appropriation from other forms of cultural exchange, but Jason Momoa seems way less of a stretch than Catholics from the Kentucky/Ohio border.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am raising white boys.

And I am not raising them to think behaving like those kids is appropriate. But I wouldn't let my kids wear black face to a black out game, so there's that too.

I think this school is woefully out of touch with both our current world in the US and with technology.
That they thought the kids would be just boys being boys and did not take in to account that virtually everyone has cell phones with cameras that will document and spread like wildfire on the internet.

I bet only a very small % of these boys' parents actually check their cell phones to be sure they aren't texting things that could ruin their lives if publicized. And they completely missed that letting their kids think it is okay to behave like this in public is a huge risk in this day and age.

The internet is forever.

Interesting. I am on another very liberal leaning parenting board and the vast majority of parents who find it abhorrent for parents to check their kids phones. They accuse parents like myself who do so from time to time of invading their privacy, breaking their trust, and ruining their relationships with their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

He's not. He is from a neighboring school. That has been confirmed, but those who confirmed it are not giving his name. And, rightly so.
You can even hear, in the longer video, someone say, "he's not from our school."
Of course, that statement is cropped from the video that has circulated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am raising white boys.

And I am not raising them to think behaving like those kids is appropriate. But I wouldn't let my kids wear black face to a black out game, so there's that too.

I think this school is woefully out of touch with both our current world in the US and with technology.
That they thought the kids would be just boys being boys and did not take in to account that virtually everyone has cell phones with cameras that will document and spread like wildfire on the internet.

I bet only a very small % of these boys' parents actually check their cell phones to be sure they aren't texting things that could ruin their lives if publicized. And they completely missed that letting their kids think it is okay to behave like this in public is a huge risk in this day and age.

The internet is forever.

+1000

[Anonymous]

There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.