MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

+1

So full of sh1t

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

"The boys did nothing wrong" - that right there is a problem. They were not behaving respectfully. They were yelling at women, they were acting like a mob of hooligans at a national monument.
As the parent of a teenage boy I completely disagree that they did nothing wrong.

+1

How can anyone say “they did nothing wrong”?!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Extend this comment to all white men and you have the Trump presidency in a nutshell.

Or maybe people like to defend boys who are innocent because IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING other than smirk, wear MAGA hats, and be pro-life and Catholic.

Could you imagine if this was a group of boys from Jewish Day school, wearing Hillary t-shirts, at the Women's March?

Maybe the theme should be "Left wing trolls love to create hysteria around nothing, since they have an unsubstantiated fear of Trumps presidency through 2026"

Wearing a MAGA hat is the height of stupidity and selfishness. It says, I have no standards. I have no issue with what this president is doing. I don't care if my president is ethical. I don't care that he is profiting off his office. I don't care that he appoints criminals and grifters. I don't care that he can't string together words to form a coherent sentence. In fact, I support it so much I bought and am proudly wearing this $24.99 hat made in China, without understanding or appreciating the irony.

Give it a rest.
We know you don't like Trump. We know you are part of the #resistance.
But, millions do. Millions wear the hat. It's a free country. And, your diatribe is a bunch of crap.
Oh, and the official hats aren't made in China. Knock offs are. But, you knew that.

There is literally no response here except, People can wear what they want and be assholes if they want. Both of those things are true. Actually, everything I said was true, and not liking Trump is besides the point. I didn't like Bush, either, but when i saw someone in a Bush hat, I didn't feel pity and disgust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

THIS is your argument?

"I can't see your silent prayer!" That's because - shhhh - it's SILENT!

Even if the kid is lying (I lied to the priest at confession as a teen.), who will prove it? And a smirk is a smirk. It's a facial expression. He didn't stick his tongue out at Nathan. He didn't shout out obscenities. He stood there while Nathan drummed in his face.

But the BHI started it. I shared a video of their nasty behavior as they attacked every non-BHI who crossed their path. ADULTS engaged. So what do you expect impulsive teens to do?

And enough about the "elderly Native American." He's a kook! certifiable
He defended BHI. How many times does THIS fact need to be shared?

You got triggered by MAGA. Sorry, hon, but you better develop some thick skin soon b/c I don't think MAGA is going anywhere anytime soon.

And no - NOT a Trump supporter and not a D or R . . . just a person who views ALL news sources before drawing conclusions

Look - I get it. We hate the white boys. We view them as insular, entitled, perhaps wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

+1 This pretty much sums it all up for me.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

Did you and your DH also discuss the threatening language and bigotry of the black men involved and/or the "in-your-face" instigation by the anti-Catholic Native American? They are adults, and their behavior was far worse. Do you put most of the blame on them?

I made my teenager watch the black hebrew israelites's video. I pointed out the woman with another group of students who said she would pray for them and quietly disengage and walk away. With the rise of extremist groups like KKK, white nationalist, Anti-FA, the last thing a teenager should be doing is engaging with extremists like that. I can't control other groups of people or what they say. But I can control my behavior. My ds can't control what other people say to him, but he had better be smart enough to not act like those kids did.

Would you do an Internet stranger a favor? Would you explain to your son that the Black Hebrew Israelites are not Jews? A couple of posters on this thread have made negative reference to the "black Jews" who started the trouble, and I shudder that people think members of this hate group have anything to do with Judaism. There's enough anti-Semitism around as it is, and we don't need a group of hate-mongers masquerading as "Hebrews" to exacerbate it.

Thank you.

Thank you for the reminder. I was clear with him that they are not Jewish, not Muslim, but a hate group. Thank you.

Appreciate that; thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

Totally agree with you. I generally lean left, but I find this whole thing deeply disturbing. The doxxing and spewing of vitriol over the video is frightening. It's a mob mentality, and its upsetting to see so many people get sucked into it, particularly when it's people with whom I'd normally agree with politically. Not this time.

+1 from another left leaner. It's crap like this that keeps his base engaged. This one is not a good look for liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

THIS is your argument?

"I can't see your silent prayer!" That's because - shhhh - it's SILENT!

Even if the kid is lying (I lied to the priest at confession as a teen.), who will prove it? And a smirk is a smirk. It's a facial expression. He didn't stick his tongue out at Nathan. He didn't shout out obscenities. He stood there while Nathan drummed in his face.

But the BHI started it. I shared a video of their nasty behavior as they attacked every non-BHI who crossed their path. ADULTS engaged. So what do you expect impulsive teens to do?

And enough about the "elderly Native American." He's a kook! certifiable
He defended BHI. How many times does THIS fact need to be shared?

You got triggered by MAGA. Sorry, hon, but you better develop some thick skin soon b/c I don't think MAGA is going anywhere anytime soon.

And no - NOT a Trump supporter and not a D or R . . . just a person who views ALL news sources before drawing conclusions

Look - I get it. We hate the white boys. We view them as insular, entitled, perhaps wealthy.

Please, I have chaperoned many field trips. Kids were not allowed to behave that way. Did we sometimes encounter kooks? Yes. These kids are old enough to know how to behave responsibly. These kids just finished their march where they were supporting a controversial cause. If they didn't have the maturity to handle conflict and other people yelling at them, should they have EVEN BEEN THERE? Hell no.

This is a failure on the part of the chaperones and the school.

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^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

It is very hard to believe that you have watched any videos beyond the first false one, or that you have been following this story beyond left wing racist trolls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

THIS is your argument?

"I can't see your silent prayer!" That's because - shhhh - it's SILENT!

Even if the kid is lying (I lied to the priest at confession as a teen.), who will prove it? And a smirk is a smirk. It's a facial expression. He didn't stick his tongue out at Nathan. He didn't shout out obscenities. He stood there while Nathan drummed in his face.

But the BHI started it. I shared a video of their nasty behavior as they attacked every non-BHI who crossed their path. ADULTS engaged. So what do you expect impulsive teens to do?

And enough about the "elderly Native American." He's a kook! certifiable
He defended BHI. How many times does THIS fact need to be shared?

You got triggered by MAGA. Sorry, hon, but you better develop some thick skin soon b/c I don't think MAGA is going anywhere anytime soon.

And no - NOT a Trump supporter and not a D or R . . . just a person who views ALL news sources before drawing conclusions

Look - I get it. We hate the white boys. We view them as insular, entitled, perhaps wealthy.

Please, I have chaperoned many field trips. Kids were not allowed to behave that way. Did we sometimes encounter kooks? Yes. These kids are old enough to know how to behave responsibly. These kids just finished their march where they were supporting a controversial cause. If they didn't have the maturity to handle conflict and other people yelling at them, should they have EVEN BEEN THERE? Hell no.

This is a failure on the part of the chaperones and the school.

I think a lot of people on both sides are agree that this is a failure of supervision and boundary setting on the part of the school and chaperones. Allowing any kind of political symbolism (i.e. hats) was a mistake also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

"The boys did nothing wrong" - that right there is a problem. They were not behaving respectfully. They were yelling at women, they were acting like a mob of hooligans at a national monument.
As the parent of a teenage boy I completely disagree that they did nothing wrong.

They were not yelling at women!

Those boys were not from Covington. Please get your facts straight before reposting or sharing falsehoods and outright lies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

Excellent! Thank you for a well reasoned and well stated post.

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Anonymous wrote:Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

They were all actually kneeling in a circle praying right before the elder walked into the middle of the group.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

It is very hard to believe that you have watched any videos beyond the first false one, or that you have been following this story beyond left wing racist trolls.

I'm not the person who wrote that, but I agree with them. I watched all the videos that have hit the internet, and some I went back to watch different parts multiple times. As a parent, what sticks out to me is that the kids were so incredibly ill behaved. They are responsible for their own behavior. That their school and parents defend that???? That the kid goes on tv to say he did nothing wrong??? WTF.

People talk about how kids are so entitled blah blah blah... This situation is insane. I have seen some parents like this when I worked in schools, but luckily they were few and far between. That a whole community of parents and school are like this???? Disgusting. These kids are close to being adults and they will not suddenly become decent human beings.