MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-covington-students-and-the-calculated-art-of-making-people-uncomfortable/2019/01/23/817ffbba-1e8f-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.c0073efa310f

Some thoughts as to your point no. 3. The kid was, and is, calculated. Those of us on the receiving end of such behavior know it. He knew it. He knew the line and what he could get away with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am raising white boys.

And I am not raising them to think behaving like those kids is appropriate. But I wouldn't let my kids wear black face to a black out game, so there's that too.

I think this school is woefully out of touch with both our current world in the US and with technology.
That they thought the kids would be just boys being boys and did not take in to account that virtually everyone has cell phones with cameras that will document and spread like wildfire on the internet.

I bet only a very small % of these boys' parents actually check their cell phones to be sure they aren't texting things that could ruin their lives if publicized. And they completely missed that letting their kids think it is okay to behave like this in public is a huge risk in this day and age.

The internet is forever.

Interesting. I am on another very liberal leaning parenting board and the vast majority of parents who find it abhorrent for parents to check their kids phones. They accuse parents like myself who do so from time to time of invading their privacy, breaking their trust, and ruining their relationships with their children.

The issues of teens and cell phones and how to monitor and protect kids from hurting themselves goes beyond political viewpoints. It is a huge problem and there are plenty of parents who are naive on all sides. This is not something we had to deal with when we were teens so we can't even call on our own experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

Yep.
TBH - there are some self-described liberals who are pretty repulsed by the opinions of some of those on the hard left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

He's not. He is from a neighboring school. That has been confirmed, but those who confirmed it are not giving his name. And, rightly so.
You can even hear, in the longer video, someone say, "he's not from our school."
Of course, that statement is cropped from the video that has circulated.

And, yet. It was instantaneously flagged the minute someone referred to the video.

I'm not really sure that it matters though. If it wasn't a CC kid, that is a fact that should be known. But, they were all mingled together. CC kids in the mix laughing. They are part of the same environment. So, we see CC technically "exonerated" but not without taint of wrongdoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

Just like the "righties" who threatened the parkland kids, Christine Blasey Ford . . . . so let's not point the finger when it comes to death threats, shall we? I think reasonable people can understand it happens on both sides. And in both instances, it's reprehensible.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget the attacks on the families from Sandy Hook either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

Yep.
TBH - there are some self-described liberals who are pretty repulsed by the opinions of some of those on the hard left.

Yes, I'm aware of that - and glad. BTW, you'll note that I didn't say "liberals" - I called them hard-left progressives or leftists. There's a difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-covington-students-and-the-calculated-art-of-making-people-uncomfortable/2019/01/23/817ffbba-1e8f-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.c0073efa310f

Some thoughts as to your point no. 3. The kid was, and is, calculated. Those of us on the receiving end of such behavior know it. He knew it. He knew the line and what he could get away with.

I agree with almost nothing in that opinion piece. It was written in a very biased manner.

She wrote this: "In Sandmann’s mind, Phillips had come to provoke, rather than bring peace." This may or may not be true.

But, she failed to note that Sandmann could well be right if this was his thinking. And in retrospect, with all we have learned about Phillips, I believe he was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

I'll confirm that the boy who made the wildly inappropriate about how 'it's not rape if you enjoyed it' did not go to Covington.

Time stamped video where the kid makes the remark in question. Notice that there a both boys and girls in the crowd. Covington is all boys. Also notice immediately after the remark you clearly hear a voice yell "he does not go to Covington" after which both groups of school boys appear to be exchanging looks and taunts. Also notice the outfit he is wearing

https://youtu.be/CqUh7nlXn2k?t=13

Different video

The first time stamp is where the Covington bus shows up and all the students take off. Notice how quickly the Black Hebrew Israelites turn their attention toward the next group of people. A group of people holding hands in a circle.

https://youtu.be/R5yOzeMek_I?t=1228

More than 5 minutes after the Covington bus left the same kid, wearing the same clothes that made the rape remark is still there in the group (that is clearly both boys and girls).

https://youtu.be/R5yOzeMek_I?t=1572

This was the product of about 10 minutes of research. If people did more cursory fact checking stories like this wouldn't be stories. If this isn't enough evidence that that kid is not a student at Covington I don't know what will be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

He's not. He is from a neighboring school. That has been confirmed, but those who confirmed it are not giving his name. And, rightly so.
You can even hear, in the longer video, someone say, "he's not from our school."
Of course, that statement is cropped from the video that has circulated.

And, yet. It was instantaneously flagged the minute someone referred to the video.

I'm not really sure that it matters though. If it wasn't a CC kid, that is a fact that should be known. But, they were all mingled together. CC kids in the mix laughing. They are part of the same environment. So, we see CC technically "exonerated" but not without taint of wrongdoing.

Different pp- I'm leftist leaning too, but "the taint of wrongdoing?" C'mon really? Have you ever stood next to someone who does the wrong thing? Because in MS and HS seeing, standing near, overhearing someone do/say the wrong thing happens about every other day because the prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped and some kids aren't taught the right things at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

Wrong - the only group really to blame here are the chaperones. If they avoided the crazies right from the start, none of this would have happened. The boys were also out of control.

The chaperones were negligent and showed poor judgement. Just like the parents/coaches at the school who allowed the blackface.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^ not to mention the other videos of kids from that school and neighboring schools yelling calling women sluts, making comments that rape is okay... I mean, WTF?

Not defensible. Just not defensible behavior. They were behaving badly.

When my kids behave badly, I don't look for other people around to blame it on. Was the woman wearing a short skirt? Was her hair long and uncovered????

These kids should not have been left unsupervised for even a minute, because they have not been taught how to behave appropriately in public.

I am reporting your post because what you keep repeating is a fabrication.

The boy in that video is not from Covington Catholic.

Please stop spreading more lies.

The situation is already inflammatory. Why add more lies to the fire?

confirmed? because if not so are you (lies, fire)

He's not. He is from a neighboring school. That has been confirmed, but those who confirmed it are not giving his name. And, rightly so.
You can even hear, in the longer video, someone say, "he's not from our school."
Of course, that statement is cropped from the video that has circulated.

And, yet. It was instantaneously flagged the minute someone referred to the video.

I'm not really sure that it matters though. If it wasn't a CC kid, that is a fact that should be known. But, they were all mingled together. CC kids in the mix laughing. They are part of the same environment. So, we see CC technically "exonerated" but not without taint of wrongdoing.

Different pp- I'm leftist leaning too, but "the taint of wrongdoing?" C'mon really? Have you ever stood next to someone who does the wrong thing? Because in MS and HS seeing, standing near, overhearing someone do/say the wrong thing happens about every other day because the prefrontal cortex is underdeveloped and some kids aren't taught the right things at home.

NP. So why would anyone think their behavior is worthy of doxxing, death, or having their college rescind their acceptance? Overreact much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

This country has gone insane. The Disney producer who posted on Twitter this teen belongs in a wood chipper? That is disgusting and scary. Disney should fire him but we know that would never happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

This country has gone insane. The Disney producer who posted on Twitter this teen belongs in a wood chipper? That is disgusting and scary. Disney should fire him but we know that would never happen.

I feel so sorry for that kid. He didn't stand a chance once the leftists got him in their crosshairs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There were basically three parties to this event, all of whom behaved less than optimally in varying degrees:

1) The BHIs: Behaved reprehensibly, shouting horribly bigoted and profane insults for the purpose of inflaming the schoolboys
2) The Native American: An adult who contributed to the mayhem, with the maturity of an adolescent, by hostilely drumming in a teen's face
3) White, Catholic boys: The one being antagonized was completely restrained, other than a slight smirk

Yet because this forum is overrun with hard-left progressives who automatically side with whomever they see as downtrodden and against "white privilege," all the finger-wagging is directed at the wealthy white Christian boys. Some leftists have gone so far as to issue death threats because....a white boy smirked.

This country has gone insane. The Disney producer who posted on Twitter this teen belongs in a wood chipper? That is disgusting and scary. Disney should fire him but we know that would never happen.

I feel so sorry for that kid. He didn't stand a chance once the leftists got him in their crosshairs.

+1
“He did not know how long she had been looking at him, but perhaps for as much as five minutes, and it was possible that his features had not been perfectly under control. It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself—anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offence. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called.”

We are up to facecrimes now. Perfect.