MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

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Anonymous wrote:New Democratic Senator Ilhan Omar couldn't resist jumping in the fray and stating known falsehoods:

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@IlhanMN
11h11 hours ago
More Ilhan Omar Retweeted Donald J. Trump
-The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
-They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
-Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

This woman is crazy. She has said some very anti-semitic things for which she has NEVER been held accountable for.

UPDATE: She has deleted her tweet after being threatened with a lawsuit by the person representing some of the boys.

She actually blamed the white boys for "taunting five black men"? No reference to the vile that spewed out of the black men's mouths?

And that woman is an elected representative on the left? OMG.

Yep. But not surprising given her history of comments and tweets.
The attorney representing the boys is contacting anyone who is posting falsehoods, threats, anything inflammatory and giving them 48 hours to delete their tweets or risk being named as a defendant in a lawsuit. Good for him!

Guess you folks aren't in favor of legal and tortious reforms now, huh? Legal system there when you want to use is . . . . all of a sudden pretty important. Esp. when you can afford high-powered attorneys and PR firms to bully people with less money and connections. Jesus would be proud.

DP. These "Jesus would be proud" type comments sprinkled through this thread is unnecessary snark directed at Christians. Please hold your sanctimony.

- a Jew

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Do y'all think the chubby Bobby Hill looking Covington feller who pulled off his shirt and danced in his boxer shorts in the video will repeat the topless dance when he meets the President?

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Anonymous wrote:New Democratic Senator Ilhan Omar couldn't resist jumping in the fray and stating known falsehoods:

Ilhan Omar
?
Verified account

@IlhanMN
11h11 hours ago
More Ilhan Omar Retweeted Donald J. Trump
-The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
-They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
-Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

This woman is crazy. She has said some very anti-semitic things for which she has NEVER been held accountable for.

UPDATE: She has deleted her tweet after being threatened with a lawsuit by the person representing some of the boys.

She actually blamed the white boys for "taunting five black men"? No reference to the vile that spewed out of the black men's mouths?

And that woman is an elected representative on the left? OMG.

Yep. But not surprising given her history of comments and tweets.
The attorney representing the boys is contacting anyone who is posting falsehoods, threats, anything inflammatory and giving them 48 hours to delete their tweets or risk being named as a defendant in a lawsuit. Good for him!

What type of anti-Semitic things has she said? As a Jew, I've become concerned with the rise and/or tolerance of antisemitism among the far-left.

"Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) expressed regret for saying in a 2012 tweet that “Israel has hypnotized the world” while doing “evil,” saying she had not realized her words would be offensive to Jewish people."

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/426425-rep-omar-apologizes-for-tweet-about-israel

"Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar explained Tuesday that she was unaware of the anti-Semitic connotations associated with the word “hypnotized” in relation to Jewish people, which she used to describe the Israeli government back in 2012.

The tweet in which she used the word “hypnotized,” reads, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. #Gaza #Palestine#Israel.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/22/ilhan-omar-anti-semitic-trope-2012-israel-hypnotized-comments/

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

Did you and your DH also discuss the threatening language and bigotry of the black men involved and/or the "in-your-face" instigation by the anti-Catholic Native American? They are adults, and their behavior was far worse. Do you put most of the blame on them?

I made my teenager watch the black hebrew israelites's video. I pointed out the woman with another group of students who said she would pray for them and quietly disengage and walk away. With the rise of extremist groups like KKK, white nationalist, Anti-FA, the last thing a teenager should be doing is engaging with extremists like that. I can't control other groups of people or what they say. But I can control my behavior. My ds can't control what other people say to him, but he had better be smart enough to not act like those kids did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

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Anonymous wrote:New Democratic Senator Ilhan Omar couldn't resist jumping in the fray and stating known falsehoods:

Ilhan Omar
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Verified account

@IlhanMN
11h11 hours ago
More Ilhan Omar Retweeted Donald J. Trump
-The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
-They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
-Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

This woman is crazy. She has said some very anti-semitic things for which she has NEVER been held accountable for.

UPDATE: She has deleted her tweet after being threatened with a lawsuit by the person representing some of the boys.

She actually blamed the white boys for "taunting five black men"? No reference to the vile that spewed out of the black men's mouths?

And that woman is an elected representative on the left? OMG.

Yep. But not surprising given her history of comments and tweets.
The attorney representing the boys is contacting anyone who is posting falsehoods, threats, anything inflammatory and giving them 48 hours to delete their tweets or risk being named as a defendant in a lawsuit. Good for him!

What type of anti-Semitic things has she said? As a Jew, I've become concerned with the rise and/or tolerance of antisemitism among the far-left.

"Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) expressed regret for saying in a 2012 tweet that “Israel has hypnotized the world” while doing “evil,” saying she had not realized her words would be offensive to Jewish people."

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/426425-rep-omar-apologizes-for-tweet-about-israel

"Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar explained Tuesday that she was unaware of the anti-Semitic connotations associated with the word “hypnotized” in relation to Jewish people, which she used to describe the Israeli government back in 2012.

The tweet in which she used the word “hypnotized,” reads, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. #Gaza #Palestine#Israel.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/22/ilhan-omar-anti-semitic-trope-2012-israel-hypnotized-comments/

Yeah, that's pretty bad. More Jewish conspiracy propaganda. Reminds me of Trayon White and the Jewish snowstorms.

Scary thing is that she's now in Congress.

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

"The boys did nothing wrong" - that right there is a problem. They were not behaving respectfully. They were yelling at women, they were acting like a mob of hooligans at a national monument.
As the parent of a teenage boy I completely disagree that they did nothing wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

Did you and your DH also discuss the threatening language and bigotry of the black men involved and/or the "in-your-face" instigation by the anti-Catholic Native American? They are adults, and their behavior was far worse. Do you put most of the blame on them?

I made my teenager watch the black hebrew israelites's video. I pointed out the woman with another group of students who said she would pray for them and quietly disengage and walk away. With the rise of extremist groups like KKK, white nationalist, Anti-FA, the last thing a teenager should be doing is engaging with extremists like that. I can't control other groups of people or what they say. But I can control my behavior. My ds can't control what other people say to him, but he had better be smart enough to not act like those kids did.

Would you do an Internet stranger a favor? Would you explain to your son that the Black Hebrew Israelites are not Jews? A couple of posters on this thread have made negative reference to the "black Jews" who started the trouble, and I shudder that people think members of this hate group have anything to do with Judaism. There's enough anti-Semitism around as it is, and we don't need a group of hate-mongers masquerading as "Hebrews" to exacerbate it.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

Totally agree with you. I generally lean left, but I find this whole thing deeply disturbing. The doxxing and spewing of vitriol over the video is frightening. It's a mob mentality, and its upsetting to see so many people get sucked into it, particularly when it's people with whom I'd normally agree with politically. Not this time.

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Show me on the video one boy's face who looks afraid of the elderly native americans who were marching. Show me one kid who is "praying inside."
Give me a break. Anyone who thinks these kids were afraid or praying inside, I have a bridge to sell you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Wrong! Some of us liberals are even calling out the hypocrisy of how the media presented this incident. Those boys did nothing wrong! Again, watch the entire video and tell me who was wrong. https://youtu.be/1q1rqCi-oM8 There is no way that you can defend what the Black Hebrew Israelites and Phillips did to those boys.

I'm black by the way, so I am not defending these boys because they are white. I am defending them because they are innocent. The media crucified those boys because they were looking for a negative narrative to spill about pro-lifers. They concocted a story about those "evil white males" to poison everyone's hearts and minds. The media wanted to incite anger and hatred. They accomplished their goal by making the students at Covington Catholic school sacrificial lambs. Pure and simple. What they did was poor journalism because it took me less than 10 minutes to fact check their claims. People need to stop making rush judgements until they know all the facts. What the media did was unethical. They lied and devoured those students like a bunch of vultures. The goal was not to seek truth. Their goal was to destroyed those students all because they were white males. I denounce hate in all shapes in forms. What happened to the students of Covington was malicious hatred from the media.

I am not a supporter of Trump. However, I fully support these boys because they were not the racist ones that day. I commend them for staying calm. Honestly, if I was their age I probably would have lost my cool if some insane attention seeker stood in my face beating a drum while a group of racists were hurling insults at me. It takes great restraint to stare down hate when it is directly in your face. My hats go off to those boys for not getting into a physical altercation even though it was clear that they were being provoked.

Shame on the media for perpetuating lies! Shame on those who are ostracizing these students just to score political points! Morals and ethics do not matter to folks anymore. Our society has turned into Games of Thrones where fanatics on both sides of the aisle are doing whatever it takes to take the other side down. It is despicable how low and nasty people will go to accommodate their political fetish. Any sane person who doesn't have a political ax to grind can acknowledge and see the truth right before their eyes by viewing the full unedited videos on YouTube by the Hebrew Israelites.

Thank you. Great post.

[Anonymous]

Clearly, people jumped the gun. This happens a lot. How many times do Trumpsters assume "muslim terrorist" when they hear about a bombing or mass shooting? Now maybe this white kid knows how a muslim or black guy feels.

"There are bad people on both sides".

--DJT

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

Did you and your DH also discuss the threatening language and bigotry of the black men involved and/or the "in-your-face" instigation by the anti-Catholic Native American? They are adults, and their behavior was far worse. Do you put most of the blame on them?

I made my teenager watch the black hebrew israelites's video. I pointed out the woman with another group of students who said she would pray for them and quietly disengage and walk away. With the rise of extremist groups like KKK, white nationalist, Anti-FA, the last thing a teenager should be doing is engaging with extremists like that. I can't control other groups of people or what they say. But I can control my behavior. My ds can't control what other people say to him, but he had better be smart enough to not act like those kids did.

Would you do an Internet stranger a favor? Would you explain to your son that the Black Hebrew Israelites are not Jews? A couple of posters on this thread have made negative reference to the "black Jews" who started the trouble, and I shudder that people think members of this hate group have anything to do with Judaism. There's enough anti-Semitism around as it is, and we don't need a group of hate-mongers masquerading as "Hebrews" to exacerbate it.

Thank you.

Thank you for the reminder. I was clear with him that they are not Jewish, not Muslim, but a hate group. Thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

I said this last night to my DH. The boys' behavior . . . I pretty much agree with the first PP. Times a million.

But, I actually find the reactions of the parents, administrator, and Catholics defending them, and unwilling to concede ANYTHING on this incident, is the far bigger problem. There is now a "change.org" petition demanding an apology (read the comments on that, btw. I'm guessing people are incapable of seeing the irony -or maybe it's hypocrisy- of defending good, upstanding Catholic boys on God's mission in DC while uttering slurs, name-calling, and being pretty despicable). The willingness to engage in no self-reflection whatsoever. None. The willing to throw personal responsibility out the window. To play the victim. To say vile things. And to generally act, plainly stated, un-Christian like. It's a huge problem. And my first real opportunity to see, among people I had for the most part respected, that play out in real time. And with zero interest in facts. It's pure emotion and retreating to the status of a victim.

This is my take on it as a parent and as someone who worked in schools. The parents and the school - WTF. The kids were extremely badly behaved and yet... they are the victims? No.

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The boys were jerks.
The chaperones were negligent.

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More Ilhan Omar Retweeted Donald J. Trump
-The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
-They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
-Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

This woman is crazy. She has said some very anti-semitic things for which she has NEVER been held accountable for.

UPDATE: She has deleted her tweet after being threatened with a lawsuit by the person representing some of the boys.

She actually blamed the white boys for "taunting five black men"? No reference to the vile that spewed out of the black men's mouths?

And that woman is an elected representative on the left? OMG.

Yep. But not surprising given her history of comments and tweets.
The attorney representing the boys is contacting anyone who is posting falsehoods, threats, anything inflammatory and giving them 48 hours to delete their tweets or risk being named as a defendant in a lawsuit. Good for him!

What type of anti-Semitic things has she said? As a Jew, I've become concerned with the rise and/or tolerance of antisemitism among the far-left.

"Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) expressed regret for saying in a 2012 tweet that “Israel has hypnotized the world” while doing “evil,” saying she had not realized her words would be offensive to Jewish people."

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/426425-rep-omar-apologizes-for-tweet-about-israel

"Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar explained Tuesday that she was unaware of the anti-Semitic connotations associated with the word “hypnotized” in relation to Jewish people, which she used to describe the Israeli government back in 2012.

The tweet in which she used the word “hypnotized,” reads, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. #Gaza #Palestine#Israel.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/22/ilhan-omar-anti-semitic-trope-2012-israel-hypnotized-comments/

Is there a negative historical reference for the word “hypnotized”? That comment alone doesn’t sound antiSemitic to me but maybe I’m missing some historical context?