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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

Ha ha. Yeah, they are leaving to get on a plane and hurry to the next Loudoun game to watch the first half of that one.

What kid did they see first? and what kid is the priority? The starter or the sub?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

Ha ha. Yeah, they are leaving to get on a plane and hurry to the next Loudoun game to watch the first half of that one.

What kid did they see first? and what kid is the priority? The starter or the sub?

Have you even been to a showcase? It doesn't sound like it.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

100
90.3
90.3
87.1
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4




Not really a formula, just eliminating those under 50% start time. We'll accept 45%> as 45 is close enough to 50/50.

And to those who question the validity of the numbers:
http://fcva.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7441556

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People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

100
90.3
90.3
87.1
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4




Not really a formula, just eliminating those under 50% start time. We'll accept 45%> as 45 is close enough to 50/50.

And to those who question the validity of the numbers:
http://fcva.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7441556

Let me elaborate since you aren't getting it. It is mathematically impossible for more than 11 to have 50% or greater start percentages unless there are injuries and players miss games. Ok? So math says that only 11 players can possibly have 50% or higher start percentages.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

Ha ha. Yeah, they are leaving to get on a plane and hurry to the next Loudoun game to watch the first half of that one.

What kid did they see first? and what kid is the priority? The starter or the sub?

Have you even been to a showcase? It doesn't sound like it.

I have, and you act like all those coaches are there for your team too. There are 22 starters on the field that the coaches are there to see. The top five players (give or take) for each team are responsible for half the coaches in attendance.

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Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
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16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
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38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
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51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

100
90.3
90.3
87.1
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45.2
80.6
45.2
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4




Not really a formula, just eliminating those under 50% start time. We'll accept 45%> as 45 is close enough to 50/50.

And to those who question the validity of the numbers:
http://fcva.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7441556

Let me elaborate since you aren't getting it. It is mathematically impossible for more than 11 to have 50% or greater start percentages unless there are injuries and players miss games. Ok? So math says that only 11 players can possibly have 50% or higher start percentages.

Nobody said they were all starters. Just that there are 11-12 kids who are starting about half the time. The rest of the kids are all 30% or less. The numbers are what they are. At FCV there are only 12 players with greater than 45% start times. Make of it what you will. The rest of the kids are sub 30%. Facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

Ha ha. Yeah, they are leaving to get on a plane and hurry to the next Loudoun game to watch the first half of that one.

What kid did they see first? and what kid is the priority? The starter or the sub?

Have you even been to a showcase? It doesn't sound like it.

I have, and you act like all those coaches are there for your team too. There are 22 starters on the field that the coaches are there to see. The top five players (give or take) for each team are responsible for half the coaches in attendance.

Hey you're right. They may be there for other team and other players. But in ECNL they are there for just your team? And players 6-10? That is funny that in the GDA they only watch top 5 but in ECNL they watch all the starters. Got it. Thanks for the lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

100
90.3
90.3
87.1
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
51.6
96.8
74.2
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Not really a formula, just eliminating those under 50% start time. We'll accept 45%> as 45 is close enough to 50/50.

And to those who question the validity of the numbers:
http://fcva.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7441556

Let me elaborate since you aren't getting it. It is mathematically impossible for more than 11 to have 50% or greater start percentages unless there are injuries and players miss games. Ok? So math says that only 11 players can possibly have 50% or higher start percentages.

Nobody said they were all starters. Just that there are 11-12 kids who are starting about half the time. The rest of the kids are all 30% or less. The numbers are what they are. At FCV there are only 12 players with greater than 45% start times. Make of it what you will. The rest of the kids are sub 30%. Facts.

I guess we have a different definition of facts. Because the numbers that someone posted shows 3 more at 38.7. Ooopsie.

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Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm

Please show us the mathematical formula where more than 11 could have 50%+ starting percentage. I will wait.

100
90.3
90.3
87.1
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4




Not really a formula, just eliminating those under 50% start time. We'll accept 45%> as 45 is close enough to 50/50.

And to those who question the validity of the numbers:
http://fcva.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=7441556

Let me elaborate since you aren't getting it. It is mathematically impossible for more than 11 to have 50% or greater start percentages unless there are injuries and players miss games. Ok? So math says that only 11 players can possibly have 50% or higher start percentages.

Nobody said they were all starters. Just that there are 11-12 kids who are starting about half the time. The rest of the kids are all 30% or less. The numbers are what they are. At FCV there are only 12 players with greater than 45% start times. Make of it what you will. The rest of the kids are sub 30%. Facts.

I guess we have a different definition of facts. Because the numbers that someone posted shows 3 more at 38.7. Ooopsie.

What is the ooooopsie? That out of ten games those players were a sub in just over 6 of them? I mean 45% at least would round up to half, now you are claiming that 38% is 50%?

Lets also remember that DA requires that players start at least 25% of the games. What would those percentages look like without that requirement?


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38.7
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3 players are hovering above the 25% requirement and 1 player is well below. (We'll assume injury on that 16%). So to the parent who thinks those 7 kids who are hovering above league minimum start requirements are getting more attention from college coaches than the starting 5 players at any other DA/ECNL club have really bought into the message. 4 out of those 7 players wear pinnies on the bench in 7 out of 10 games but are somehow better than starters at other DA/ECNL clubs. LOL

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Anonymous wrote:People are still arguing this? That’s funny and sad at the same time.

Everyone knows that the benchwarmers have no chance at D1 schools, and they aren’t getting any better riding the pine.

Best to go somewhere and start against the players they can’t unseat, especially at the younger ages when it will help them develop.

The arguer must have been sold a bill of goods by Bobby and company and it’s sad that they have accepted their position of being a subsidy for the starting players who will go on to succeed.

Board gorilla is back.

The facts say otherwise but this gorilla is going to keep grunting about GRRRR ride the pine, sit in the corner, no one getting better, GRRRR, etc...

How about the fact that 6 months of 3 times a week training in ECNL with players that aren't as strong vs. 10 months of training 4 times a week with stronger players? Which players are getting better?

The numbers are there for all to see. Career sub is a career sub. Just what every top D1 program is looking for.

Yes, the numbers are there but you don't want to look at them.

Here is Penn Fusion since TopHat wasn't a comp for some.

https://pennfusion.demosphere-secure.com/college-placement-player-honors/girls-all-time-college-placement

Here is NEFC - only updated to last year (first year of GDA)

https://www.nefc.us/alumni