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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

2006. Loudoun beat the '06 FCV DA team this year and picked up several players that were offered spots on the FCV team, but turned them down. I agree that at the other age groups your argument is sound. Also, looking to the future, 2007 Loudoun is ranked ahead of FCV 07s also, but allure of DA has not kicked in yet. We'll see how much stronger FCV gets now that they have Fairfax location and large money backing. It might end up being really strong, but somewhat out of competition with Loudoun as geography shifts over next year especially at younger ages.

Well, for the Fairfax region to be a legit pool FCV has to actually bite the bullet and commit to that region. Pussy footing trying to cover two geographic areas to keep the current player pool delays their ability to attract from their new base. Perhaps some Arlington DA kids would love to join FCV but won't unit there is a clearer picture of where FCV will be based. FCV will just not be able to have its cake and eat it too.

With so many options in the area location means a lot. The only thing concentrated anymore is traffic. There will no doubt be parents who sacrifice as they have always done but how many will truly stomach the commute to watch their kid sit?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

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FCV 06 and 07 cannot even beat Loudoun. FCV at younger ages is not what it used to be.

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The ignorance is astonishing.

Grow up parents and learn the game

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

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Bobby is in the house

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100 - D1
90.3 - D1
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3 - D1
87.1 - D1
29
38.7
67.7 -D1
45.2
80.6 - D1
45.2 - D1
29
51.6 - D1
96.8 - D1
74.2 - D1
48.4 - D1

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100 - D1
90.3 - D1
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3 - D1
87.1 - D1
29
38.7
67.7 -D1
45.2
80.6 - D1
45.2 - D1
29
51.6 - D1
96.8 - D1
74.2 - D1
48.4 - D1

They have committed already?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

You can start on another DA or ECNL club you dolt. Who said a thing about CCL?

Playing time isn't the only factor - event dolt can get that. Sure you can be a starter on MU or Loudoun but what does that get you as those teams currently stand. Look at the data - subs at FCV DA are getting more exposure and commits than starters at other DA and ECNL clubs. Are you scared of the data? Because you keep posting the same garbage over and over again that the data shows is wrong. Man, if I am dolt, what does that say about...?

How are they getting more exposed when coaches leave at the end of the first half?

Another post with little knowledge of reality. Where are those that are leaving going genius? If they leave one field at halftime, they go to another to watch...wait for it...the second half of another game.

I actually made myself laugh there picturing that little fact hitting you upside the head.

Ha ha. Yeah, they are leaving to get on a plane and hurry to the next Loudoun game to watch the first half of that one.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

Are you really this obtuse. Players 11-15 often start as frequently as players 6-10. You can start an be team captain on a great CCL team, but that doesn't mean you will get exposure. You are like a broken record. Look at the data in those links. Those are facts. What you are posting is your opinion.

Here are the starting percentages for FCV's 04's:
100
90.3
29
38.7
16.1
38.7
90.3
87.1
29
38.7
67.7
45.2
80.6
45.2
29
51.6
96.8
74.2
48.4

Assuming those are correct, you still have 15 players at 38.7 or higher and 12 at 48.4 or higher (effectively half the games). Given the success of that particular team and the exposure they are getting in the GDA, you really think player 11 (a starter) on 04 Metro United or Loudoun or BRYC or McLean or VDA is going to get more exposure than those 15? Heck, take player 5 on those teams and it is likely same story.

Umm, as a PP had already demonstrated, if you assume the players with 50%> starts are going D1. The number of players at 50% or greater starting time is curiously 11......Hmmmmm