Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

[Anonymous]

There is a Starbucks, it's very popular with Wilson kids, and you can see them on any given day after school sitting around there with some expensive coffee treat. There's a Panera a couple of stores down that's also mobbed with Wilson students every day after school. Neither store has ever stopped table service from 3 to 4:30.

Anonymous wrote:I don't live in DC but after reading this thread I get the impression that if I drive through the area when school lets out, my car will probably be pelted with rocks. Also, stopping at the Chick Fil a there may get me beat up.
Somehow this all sounds just a tad exaggerated. Isn't there a Starbucks there? How do they handle the crush of kids?
Usually Starbucks is very popular with HS kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this was the diversity liberals say creates a superior learning environment. You all should be thankful for the wonderful ethos your children are lucky enough to bathe in.

Yes, Wilson is EXACTLY the diversity that lots of people are looking for --- a big, diverse and welcoming community where all kinds of kids find a home. I am a Wilson parent who has spent a LOT of time around the school at dismissal, in the morning, at 7:30 PM after DS's sports practice ends. When I first started spending time around the school, I was shocked at how polite and helpful the kids were (e.g. stopping what they were doing to give me directions and even in one case to lead me to the room I was looking for because it's hard to find), but now I'm used to it. At back to school night last night, it was great to see the JROTC kids (and some other teams or clubs) there giving directions to new parents and welcoming them to the school.

Diversity is great, but we value academic rigor and a safe and secure environment more. Wilson needs to identify the students who are habitual disrupters at Wilson and work diligently to remove them from the school context. Let deserving boys and girls who are willing to work hard and follow the rules take their spots.

And what exactly do you know about the environment at Wilson? Have you been in the building? Have you talked to the kids? I ask because the school population that I see described in threads like this one bears absolutely no resemblance to the kids that I see every time I am actually at the school.

I had concerns about security before DS started there. I am less concerned every time I am in the building.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

A number of kids have to come from SW/SE on the Metro, which takes a while.

Actually MontCo has shifted so high schools start late too. It is developmentally appropriate for teens whose body clocks are set to sleep later.

I totally get that 6 Am is not developmentally appropriate. But 9 seems late to me.

The only reason suburban schools start at 7:45 (which is later than the prior 7:25) is that they have to have staggered times for ES, MS and HS, so that buses can do multiple runs. Multiple runs are a huge cost savings to the system. A choice was made decades ago that having HSers go to school in the dark was safer than having ESers walk to school in the dark. And having HSers be home first also helped those families who needed older kids to provide aftercare for younger ones.

DC doesn't have these problems. Everyone goes to school on public transporation (except sped) and so all schools start at the time. School thus starts at the same time in all schools and at a time that coincides with the normal work day.

And, yes, kids & parents in the suburbs are envious ....

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland park listserve has this convo going on now.

Those people (meaning the people who live in Cleveland park) will complain about anything and everything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

A number of kids have to come from SW/SE on the Metro, which takes a while.

Actually MontCo has shifted so high schools start late too. It is developmentally appropriate for teens whose body clocks are set to sleep later.

I totally get that 6 Am is not developmentally appropriate. But 9 seems late to me.

The only reason suburban schools start at 7:45 (which is later than the prior 7:25) is that they have to have staggered times for ES, MS and HS, so that buses can do multiple runs. Multiple runs are a huge cost savings to the system. A choice was made decades ago that having HSers go to school in the dark was safer than having ESers walk to school in the dark. And having HSers be home first also helped those families who needed older kids to provide aftercare for younger ones.

DC doesn't have these problems. Everyone goes to school on public transporation (except sped) and so all schools start at the time. School thus starts at the same time in all schools and at a time that coincides with the normal work day.

And, yes, kids & parents in the suburbs are envious ....

I'm not envious of DC schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Cleveland park listserve has this convo going on now.

Those people (meaning the people who live in Cleveland park) will complain about anything and everything.

Neither the Tenleytown Metro nor Wilson for the Chick Fil-A are in Cleveland Park. And for that matter, most "members" of the Cleveland Park list serv aren't either. That list serv became the de facto Northwest DC list serve 10 or 15 years ago, although activity on it has also dropped in recent years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a Starbucks, it's very popular with Wilson kids, and you can see them on any given day after school sitting around there with some expensive coffee treat. There's a Panera a couple of stores down that's also mobbed with Wilson students every day after school. Neither store has ever stopped table service from 3 to 4:30.

Anonymous wrote:I don't live in DC but after reading this thread I get the impression that if I drive through the area when school lets out, my car will probably be pelted with rocks. Also, stopping at the Chick Fil a there may get me beat up.
Somehow this all sounds just a tad exaggerated. Isn't there a Starbucks there? How do they handle the crush of kids?
Usually Starbucks is very popular with HS kids.

Sadly, I've also seen these students harrassing Panera customers. I am sure that Panera managers sometimes wish they could institute some sort of policy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cleveland park listserve has this convo going on now.

Those people (meaning the people who live in Cleveland park) will complain about anything and everything.

Neither the Tenleytown Metro nor Wilson for the Chick Fil-A are in Cleveland Park. And for that matter, most "members" of the Cleveland Park list serv aren't either. That list serv became the de facto Northwest DC list serve 10 or 15 years ago, although activity on it has also dropped in recent years.

"those people"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a Starbucks, it's very popular with Wilson kids, and you can see them on any given day after school sitting around there with some expensive coffee treat. There's a Panera a couple of stores down that's also mobbed with Wilson students every day after school. Neither store has ever stopped table service from 3 to 4:30.

Anonymous wrote:I don't live in DC but after reading this thread I get the impression that if I drive through the area when school lets out, my car will probably be pelted with rocks. Also, stopping at the Chick Fil a there may get me beat up.
Somehow this all sounds just a tad exaggerated. Isn't there a Starbucks there? How do they handle the crush of kids?
Usually Starbucks is very popular with HS kids.

Sadly, I've also seen these students harrassing Panera customers. I am sure that Panera managers sometimes wish they could institute some sort of policy

Love the solution of playing classical music to discourage teen loitering.

[Anonymous]

Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

They don't object to students, they object to AA students who they assume are from other parts of the city and don't belong in their neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

They don't object to students, they object to AA students who they assume are from other parts of the city and don't belong in their neighborhood school.

Always keeping it classy NW DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

"nearby" is certainly a relative term here..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just curious- did Wilson and Deal open recently? No right? So it seems that all the poor pearl-clutchers on the Cleveland Park listserv and here were on notice that there was a high
School and middle school nearby. Also I'm pretty sure that if you ARE zoned for Deal/Wilson you make an enormous deal about it because it's a boost to your home price. So take the good with the bad and suck it up. FWIW, I have never met ruder people in my life than the aging boomers of NW DC.

You people are acting like Wilson and Deal opened last year against your will.

"nearby" is certainly a relative term here..

How so? Clearly you're walking distance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a Starbucks, it's very popular with Wilson kids, and you can see them on any given day after school sitting around there with some expensive coffee treat. There's a Panera a couple of stores down that's also mobbed with Wilson students every day after school. Neither store has ever stopped table service from 3 to 4:30.

Anonymous wrote:I don't live in DC but after reading this thread I get the impression that if I drive through the area when school lets out, my car will probably be pelted with rocks. Also, stopping at the Chick Fil a there may get me beat up.
Somehow this all sounds just a tad exaggerated. Isn't there a Starbucks there? How do they handle the crush of kids?
Usually Starbucks is very popular with HS kids.

Sadly, I've also seen these students harrassing Panera customers. I am sure that Panera managers sometimes wish they could institute some sort of policy

I am in the Panera by Wilson at least once a week after school, and I have never seen Wilson students harassing anyone.