Tenley Chick Filet takes measures against loitering after school by students, including Wilson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coming back to a few comments ago, a lot of people were talking about the poor kids, who are just being kids. Most of them are. But when a 17-year old who is a lot bigger than you is standing on your car, throwing rocks, or cussing at you with his friends, they are the same level of threat as an adult with very poor judgment and maturity -- especially when in a group.

Can we stop beating a dead horse here

it does not seem that dead to me if some people suggest taking out an I-phone and record the assault. these are not pre-k kids

[Anonymous]

Never had problems with Wilson students at the end of school days. Yes, they are a human tsunami wave, big, noisy, some are smelly too after sports, but in my experience totally unharmful .

What bothers me actually, is not what I see after school, rather what I see around 9:00am when I normally leave Wilson pool. If school day starts at 8:45am, how comes there are hundreds of students approaching the school by 9:00, showing no sign of urgency?

Again, it's hundreds of them. This is not an exaggeration. And with no sign of urgency.

Is attendance taken at first period at Wilson? I do not think so, otherwise, from what I see, overcrowding would not be an issue, as hundreds would not be invited back to the school in the following year.

I will open a separate topic on this in the next week or so. Let me first count how many I see entering the building after 8:45 am on a couple of next mornings, to provide DCUM with some numbers.

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I work at Janney and I have two kids who are students there. We are often in the area after school. It's definitely crowded and sometimes I feel a bit uncomfortable but I agree that I would feel that way if the teenagers were white.

I think if Chick Fil A feels like this is the best way to handle that hour, then it is their prerogative to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never had problems with Wilson students at the end of school days. Yes, they are a human tsunami wave, big, noisy, some are smelly too after sports, but in my experience totally unharmful .

What bothers me actually, is not what I see after school, rather what I see around 9:00am when I normally leave Wilson pool. If school day starts at 8:45am, how comes there are hundreds of students approaching the school by 9:00, showing no sign of urgency?

Again, it's hundreds of them. This is not an exaggeration. And with no sign of urgency.

Is attendance taken at first period at Wilson? I do not think so, otherwise, from what I see, overcrowding would not be an issue, as hundreds would not be invited back to the school in the following year.

I will open a separate topic on this in the next week or so. Let me first count how many I see entering the building after 8:45 am on a couple of next mornings, to provide DCUM with some numbers.

FYI school starts at 8:55 now.

[Anonymous]

Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

[Anonymous]

Love, love the idea of the businesses playing classical music to discourage loitering by the wrong crowd. A subtle, but cultured approach -- well played!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

A number of kids have to come from SW/SE on the Metro, which takes a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

A number of kids have to come from SW/SE on the Metro, which takes a while.

Actually MontCo has shifted so high schools start late too. It is developmentally appropriate for teens whose body clocks are set to sleep later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coming back to a few comments ago, a lot of people were talking about the poor kids, who are just being kids. Most of them are. But when a 17-year old who is a lot bigger than you is standing on your car, throwing rocks, or cussing at you with his friends, they are the same level of threat as an adult with very poor judgment and maturity -- especially when in a group.

Can we stop beating a dead horse here

If some punk is throwing rocks at passerby or stomping on a car, it is the punk -- not the horse -- who should be getting a beating: a real old fashioned, out by the woodshed, Texas-style butt whuppin.' Believe it, there would be a lot less mayhem on the streets around the Metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow that's late. Is that all DC high Schools? Why? Kids in the suburbs must be so envious!

A number of kids have to come from SW/SE on the Metro, which takes a while.

Actually MontCo has shifted so high schools start late too. It is developmentally appropriate for teens whose body clocks are set to sleep later.

I totally get that 6 Am is not developmentally appropriate. But 9 seems late to me.

[Anonymous]

To the pp wondering why a couple of hundred kids stroll in after 9 am.
One reason could be that a lot of seniors seem to have a free period or two in their schedule.
Sometimes that free period is first thing and maybe that is why at least some kids come in late.
Not sure if that covers everyone though but it might.
My kid is a 9th grader and likes to get there by 8.30 even though school officially starts at 8.55 am.
It takes a while to get through the metal detector, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Coming back to a few comments ago, a lot of people were talking about the poor kids, who are just being kids. Most of them are. But when a 17-year old who is a lot bigger than you is standing on your car, throwing rocks, or cussing at you with his friends, they are the same level of threat as an adult with very poor judgment and maturity -- especially when in a group.

Can we stop beating a dead horse here

If some punk is throwing rocks at passerby or stomping on a car, it is the punk -- not the horse -- who should be getting a beating: a real old fashioned, out by the woodshed, Texas-style butt whuppin.' Believe it, there would be a lot less mayhem on the streets around the Metro.

That story has been repeated several times on this thread. So yes, stop beating a dead horse.

[Anonymous]

I don't live in DC but after reading this thread I get the impression that if I drive through the area when school lets out, my car will probably be pelted with rocks. Also, stopping at the Chick Fil a there may get me beat up.
Somehow this all sounds just a tad exaggerated. Isn't there a Starbucks there? How do they handle the crush of kids?
Usually Starbucks is very popular with HS kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was the diversity liberals say creates a superior learning environment. You all should be thankful for the wonderful ethos your children are lucky enough to bathe in.

Yes, Wilson is EXACTLY the diversity that lots of people are looking for --- a big, diverse and welcoming community where all kinds of kids find a home. I am a Wilson parent who has spent a LOT of time around the school at dismissal, in the morning, at 7:30 PM after DS's sports practice ends. When I first started spending time around the school, I was shocked at how polite and helpful the kids were (e.g. stopping what they were doing to give me directions and even in one case to lead me to the room I was looking for because it's hard to find), but now I'm used to it. At back to school night last night, it was great to see the JROTC kids (and some other teams or clubs) there giving directions to new parents and welcoming them to the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought this was the diversity liberals say creates a superior learning environment. You all should be thankful for the wonderful ethos your children are lucky enough to bathe in.

Yes, Wilson is EXACTLY the diversity that lots of people are looking for --- a big, diverse and welcoming community where all kinds of kids find a home. I am a Wilson parent who has spent a LOT of time around the school at dismissal, in the morning, at 7:30 PM after DS's sports practice ends. When I first started spending time around the school, I was shocked at how polite and helpful the kids were (e.g. stopping what they were doing to give me directions and even in one case to lead me to the room I was looking for because it's hard to find), but now I'm used to it. At back to school night last night, it was great to see the JROTC kids (and some other teams or clubs) there giving directions to new parents and welcoming them to the school.

Diversity is great, but we value academic rigor and a safe and secure environment more. Wilson needs to identify the students who are habitual disrupters at Wilson and work diligently to remove them from the school context. Let deserving boys and girls who are willing to work hard and follow the rules take their spots.