Oyster-Adam teacher arrested

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Here's one:

The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of offending teachers (at least at the elementary and under level) are male. Perhaps it is worthwhile to keep all men out of classrooms with children these ages in order to protect our precious young. A clear background merely means he hasn't been convicted of such a crime. These offenders often offend many times before they are caught. I too feel badly for the good male educators who would be hurt by such a policy, but I feel much worse for those children harmed at the hands of such men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Seriously, why are you so aggressive? Can you not see that people can view things differently from you but that doesn't make them stupid, bad parents, or pedophiles themselves? You would accomplish you goal of changing people's minds and behaviors much more effectively if you stopped being so argumentative and just presented some semi-rational information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Seriously, why are you so aggressive? Can you not see that people can view things differently from you but that doesn't make them stupid, bad parents, or pedophiles themselves? You would accomplish you goal of changing people's minds and behaviors much more effectively if you stopped being so argumentative and just presented some semi-rational information.

I think it's best to ignore the aggressive poster, as another PP suggested.

[Anonymous]

Listen, I and others will not be silenced by molester-friendly people who mischaracterize comments on here. You've lied and are getting called out. Too much for you, go elsewhere. Again, the most important thing is the safety of children. I question the motives of those unhappy or intolerant of that. If that upsets you, leave the thread. What you won't do is try to paint me and others who will not accept the status quo as irrational. You're irrational in my view. Simply put, I'm not putting up with pedophiles or those that cater to them.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, I and others will not be silenced by molester-friendly people who mischaracterize comments on here. You've lied and are getting called out. Too much for you, go elsewhere. Again, the most important thing is the safety of children. I question the motives of those unhappy or intolerant of that. If that upsets you, leave the thread. What you won't do is try to paint me and others who will not accept the status quo as irrational. You're irrational in my view. Simply put, I'm not putting up with pedophiles or those that cater to them.

You may not be silence by "molester-friendly people", but you will be silenced by me. Bye, bye.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Listen, I and others will not be silenced by molester-friendly people who mischaracterize comments on here. You've lied and are getting called out. Too much for you, go elsewhere. Again, the most important thing is the safety of children. I question the motives of those unhappy or intolerant of that. If that upsets you, leave the thread. What you won't do is try to paint me and others who will not accept the status quo as irrational. You're irrational in my view. Simply put, I'm not putting up with pedophiles or those that cater to them.

You may not be silence by "molester-friendly people", but you will be silenced by me. Bye, bye.

Thanks Jeff. Every time I see/hear people like this, I chuckle when remembering this clip from the Simpson's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, I and others will not be silenced by molester-friendly people who mischaracterize comments on here. You've lied and are getting called out. Too much for you, go elsewhere. Again, the most important thing is the safety of children. I question the motives of those unhappy or intolerant of that. If that upsets you, leave the thread. What you won't do is try to paint me and others who will not accept the status quo as irrational. You're irrational in my view. Simply put, I'm not putting up with pedophiles or those that cater to them.

First time posting on this thread.

You are in Crazy Town. For starters, your "ban males who are interested in kids" neglects to recognize the abuse that is perpetrated by family members or people that the family already trusts - which seems to be the case here. Are you prepared, PP, never to leave your children alone with your husband, your father, your brothers/uncles/male cousins if you have any or any trusted family friend? Secondly, when you suggest a "vetted" female volunteer, how do you expect to make that happen? Mandatory female volunteers in all classrooms with male teachers? How is that not gender discrimination? Do you want to have male volunteers in classrooms with female teachers?

There is not one single person on this thread who doesn't think that the safety of children is the most important thing. The disagreement is about how to achieve that. Some of the things you are suggesting are discriminatory, not based in fact and nearly impossible to implement. Your refusal to realize that and your suggestion that anyone who disagrees with you is either a child molester or someone who supports child molestation is offensive and delusional.

[Anonymous]

Always thought he dressed inappropriately for a teacher who is around kids. Short shorts and very tight t-shirts, sometimes showing his mid riff. He was attractive and good at teaching so everyone looked the other way. He was friends with all the best teachers at the school and they protected him, not the kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Always thought he dressed inappropriately for a teacher who is around kids. Short shorts and very tight t-shirts, sometimes showing his mid riff. He was attractive and good at teaching so everyone looked the other way. He was friends with all the best teachers at the school and they protected him, not the kids.

Wow. See how the school *and* many parents chose to ignore the RED flags?
Even though people like to swear there were no indications for concern,
there usually in fact, are.

But, SOMEONE just needs to have the guts to be "JUDGMENTAL"
or at least don't give the pervert a free pass with your kids.

If you do, your poor child will likely need YEARS of THERAPY
to recover from your "non-judgmental" mistakes. Ooops!

Even the children in the class who he didn't yet molest,
need help to process this violation of their trust in their teacher.

It's horrible for everyone in the school and in the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Always thought he dressed inappropriately for a teacher who is around kids. Short shorts and very tight t-shirts, sometimes showing his mid riff. He was attractive and good at teaching so everyone looked the other way. He was friends with all the best teachers at the school and they protected him, not the kids.

You know this for a fact? I think you have to be careful about making allegations if you can't back it up with evidence. If you can provide examples, I would be open to hearing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Here's one:

The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of offending teachers (at least at the elementary and under level) are male. Perhaps it is worthwhile to keep all men out of classrooms with children these ages in order to protect our precious young. A clear background merely means he hasn't been convicted of such a crime. These offenders often offend many times before they are caught. I too feel badly for the good male educators who would be hurt by such a policy, but I feel much worse for those children harmed at the hands of such men.

Another one:
"there's something weird about grown men who don't have kids who chose to be surrounded by them."

This poster said it in the context as why makes want to be teachers period. This was highly offensive abs yes sexist to say that males don't have natural callings to teach our youth. Echoing some others, the best teacher I ever had was a male. Same with my DS. Next, they're going to say men shouldn't be nurses, flight attendants, or librarians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Here's one:

The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of offending teachers (at least at the elementary and under level) are male. Perhaps it is worthwhile to keep all men out of classrooms with children these ages in order to protect our precious young. A clear background merely means he hasn't been convicted of such a crime. These offenders often offend many times before they are caught. I too feel badly for the good male educators who would be hurt by such a policy, but I feel much worse for those children harmed at the hands of such men.

Another one:
"there's something weird about grown men who don't have kids who chose to be surrounded by them."

This poster said it in the context as why makes want to be teachers period. This was highly offensive abs yes sexist to say that males don't have natural callings to teach our youth. Echoing some others, the best teacher I ever had was a male. Same with my DS. Next, they're going to say men shouldn't be nurses, flight attendants, or librarians.

I just don't want a strange guy messing with my kid's toileting process. If you want that, there are lots who'd be more than happy to. Go for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Always thought he dressed inappropriately for a teacher who is around kids. Short shorts and very tight t-shirts, sometimes showing his mid riff. He was attractive and good at teaching so everyone looked the other way. He was friends with all the best teachers at the school and they protected him, not the kids.

You know this for a fact? I think you have to be careful about making allegations if you can't back it up with evidence. If you can provide examples, I would be open to hearing them.

Wouldn't most of the school notice his hot pants and sexy legs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Here's one:

The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of offending teachers (at least at the elementary and under level) are male. Perhaps it is worthwhile to keep all men out of classrooms with children these ages in order to protect our precious young. A clear background merely means he hasn't been convicted of such a crime. These offenders often offend many times before they are caught. I too feel badly for the good male educators who would be hurt by such a policy, but I feel much worse for those children harmed at the hands of such men.

Another one:
"there's something weird about grown men who don't have kids who chose to be surrounded by them."

This poster said it in the context as why makes want to be teachers period. This was highly offensive abs yes sexist to say that males don't have natural callings to teach our youth. Echoing some others, the best teacher I ever had was a male. Same with my DS. Next, they're going to say men shouldn't be nurses, flight attendants, or librarians.

I just don't want a strange guy messing with my kid's toileting process. If you want that, there are lots who'd be more than happy to. Go for it.

Who said anything about having strange men messing with children's toileting? In the real world it's possible for men to teach children without involving themselves in toileting. You should join us here on Earth some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK it is clear that one person who clearly feels VERY STRONGLY about keeping all men away from her kids has taken over this thread. Probably the same person who takes over all of the sleepover threads.

Let's just leave her be, shall we? We are never going to change her mind and she clearly has some issues of her own, with all of the name-calling and hyperbole being slung about.

+1 I'm guessing he/she is the one who keeps posting "Why then are you so afraid of having a vetted woman in the classroom with you"?

Good luck with trying to implement that policy.

Um, no. You may not realize it, but there is more than one poster on here not putting up with molesters bullshit. You can call Jeff on this one. Secondly, no one said men shouldn't be around kids. Nice try twisting things around. Go ahead and post the exact phrase where a parent unafraid of pedophiles also went on to say that men shouldn't be around kids. You can't because you made that up. What has been said is skepticism and tactics that apply that should be used. This is common sense and can keep kids safe. Maybe not you agenda, but definitely mine.

Here's one:

The elephant in the room is that the vast majority of offending teachers (at least at the elementary and under level) are male. Perhaps it is worthwhile to keep all men out of classrooms with children these ages in order to protect our precious young. A clear background merely means he hasn't been convicted of such a crime. These offenders often offend many times before they are caught. I too feel badly for the good male educators who would be hurt by such a policy, but I feel much worse for those children harmed at the hands of such men.

Another one:
"there's something weird about grown men who don't have kids who chose to be surrounded by them."

This poster said it in the context as why makes want to be teachers period. This was highly offensive abs yes sexist to say that males don't have natural callings to teach our youth. Echoing some others, the best teacher I ever had was a male. Same with my DS. Next, they're going to say men shouldn't be nurses, flight attendants, or librarians.

I just don't want a strange guy messing with my kid's toileting process. If you want that, there are lots who'd be more than happy to. Go for it.

Who said anything about having strange men messing with children's toileting? In the real world it's possible for men to teach children without involving themselves in toileting. You should join us here on Earth some time.

It's all about having access to the kids, isn't it?