How would this be any different if he were a citizen? Trump could still say he’s in a foreign prison and he can’t be forced to do anything to get him out. |
They will say he died of natural causes and his body was cremated. |
No, he is making a mockery of himself. He cannot effectuate the return of one person. He is ineffectual. Totally ineffective. |
El Salvador didn't put him or the Venezuelans in prison. They just took whoever we gave them and locked them up. Y'all think you're cute but you're not. |
What rights do you think us citizens have in Salvadoran prisons? |
You know he’s not a US Citizen right? |
Because we could demand OUR citizen back. We have zero right to demand THEIR citizen come here. |
Correct. |
What law says that? |
Stop parroting bullshit. It’s not difficult to read the Bill of Rights to see which rights are for citizens, and which rights are for everyone on US soil. If you’re having trouble understanding the definition of “person,” you could also read the Supreme Court decision on this from last week. 9-0 said these non citizens have due process rights. |
As triggered as I have by with the sophomoric comebacks (my favorite: we can't just "grab" someone in another country, how would you like it someone came and "grabbed your mother?), we need to ignore the trolls who are trying to distract us and just talk about the facts: Trump has a deal, for which he is paying dearly: *$6 million dollars per year for imprisoning whomever we want without due process. Many of the recently deported Venezuelans have no criminal record, were here legally, and were awaiting asylum. They have tattoos - that is it. *The US has handed back a couple dozen actual MS-13 members, including one of the tippety top leaders (César Humberto López Larios), waiving his indictment in the US to send him back. This is a man the US has worked to capture, build a case against, and have extradited to the US for years. Make no mistake about this: Sending Lopez Larios to El Salvador benefits Bukele and Bukele only. Why? It is widely known, though categorically denied by Bukele, that Bukele cut deals with the Salvadoran gangs. In US custody these MS-13 leaders were likely or at least able to talk and destroy his narrative. No longer. Trump made a deal with Bukele. We should all assume that part of the deal was being able to get anyone he wants back. If he didn't include any such provision in the deal, then he is a really pathetic deal maker. I mean, really?? |
And here comes Erik Prince (of Blackwater or whatever name it’s acquired now, mercenaries for hire, and Betsy Devos fame) with a plan straight out of a YA dystopian novel.
“ Former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince and a team of defense contractors are pitching the White House on a plan to vastly expand deportations to El Salvador — transporting thousands of immigrants from U.S. holding facilities to a sprawling maximum security prison in Central America. The proposal, exclusively obtained by POLITICO, says it would target “criminal illegal aliens” and would attempt to avoid legal challenges by designating part of the prison — which has drawn accusations of violence and overcrowding from human rights groups — as American territory. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/military-contractors-prison-plan-detained-immigrants-erik-prince-00287208 |
You obviously dod not understand the US Constitution. This may be what you want, but it isn't what the document says. |
Not really full rights are for citizens the other people are subjective, however this man is not on us soil so there are no US rights for him even if illegals have any |
He was erroneously removed from US soil. Let's bring him here to US soil and then we can debate which rights he gets and which he doesn't. |