Supreme Court Sides With Wrongly Deported Migrant

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.

Anonymous
Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm


Yes, we know. It's not about him--it's about the principle.

Can you dig up some negative facts about some of the others deported to CECOT, like the gay makeup artist, the soccer instructor, or the young man with the autism awareness tattoo? Because they are much more sympathetic than Abrego Garcia. Please explain to me why they are at CECOT.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm

If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"We cannot give everyone a trial," sez Trump. He got a trial. It would have been better for the country if he'd gone directly to a prison in El Salvador? He's a convicted felon.

Are you talking about Trump?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm

If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”


What about the MS13 tattoos on his knuckles? That should be enough right there. no need for a trial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.


It is okay to deny people due process if you are in Guantanamo Bay. I don’t understand how people can ignore we imprison people without due process 90 miles offshore on a US military base. Everyone upset about this case should be upset Guantanamo Bay is still open. How about we clean house first?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.


It is okay to deny people due process if you are in Guantanamo Bay. I don’t understand how people can ignore we imprison people without due process 90 miles offshore on a US military base. Everyone upset about this case should be upset Guantanamo Bay is still open. How about we clean house first?

The Trump administration also sent immigrants to Guantanamo, were you aware of this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm

If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”


What about the MS13 tattoos on his knuckles? That should be enough right there. no need for a trial.


At this point, I'm calling TROLL.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.


A hearing that he lost, and an appeal that he lost, is not due priocess?

If you get a speeding ticket, challenge it in court, lose, appeal, then lose again, were you denied due process?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.


A hearing that he lost, and an appeal that he lost, is not due priocess?

If you get a speeding ticket, challenge it in court, lose, appeal, then lose again, were you denied due process?


If you get a speeding ticket, lose in court and then lose on appeal, you have to pay the ticket. But the government cannot then ship you off to a prison in El Salvador. That’s essentially what happened here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections.


I think not against the law. They are just operating under emergency regime where you are imprisoned.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a bad hombre.

Unknown to the administration until this week: Abrego Garcia's wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, actually had told local police in Maryland about a total of six instances of alleged abuse from 2019-2021, according to court documents filed when Vasquez Sura sought a protective order. (DHS released the documents Wednesday.)

In 2022, Abrego Garcia was stopped in Tennessee for speeding in a vehicle owned by a convicted human smuggler. Eight other people and no luggage were in the car, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/01/kilmar-abrego-garcia-abuse-allegations-deport-immigration?utm

If he’s a “bad hombre” then try him in a court of law. It’s a slippery slope when you start imprisoning people (without due process) for alleged “bad behavior.”


We know your game. Import 10 million illegals as quickly as possible and then whine about process when exporting them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would El Salvador send an El Salvador citizen back to United States. That doesn't make sense.


Why would they imprison him when he has not been charged with any crime here or there? That doesn't make sense. The only reason they would do that is because we are paying them to. (And admittedly that doesn't make sense either, when he has not been charged with anything here or there.)


Due to extreme gang violence terrorizing the country, El Salvador passed an emergency state of exception in March 2022. They were the murder capital of the world. Under the special powers, the right to association is suspended, police don’t have to tell someone being arrested the reason or inform them of their rights. Someone arrested does not have a right to a lawyer, mass trials are allowed and there is no longer a right to a speedy trial. It is against the law in El Salvador to have any gang connections. There is a law that criminalizes the creation, distribution, or display of any visual expression that alludes to gangs. So the fact that there is a gang report from the US naming him associating with MS-13 gang members and is maybe a gang member and he maybe has gang tattoos on his hands is enough in El Salvador to imprison you for any one of those offenses.

El Salvadorans had reached their limit and decided the trade off was worth it because how miserable the conditions were when gangs were terrorizing the country killing, extorting, raping, etc. Just like we imprison people and hold people in Guantanamo Bay without a trial and without charges for over 20 years. We decided it was worth it to defend our country against terrorism.


So it’s ok to deny people due process? That’s insane. And as the past few months have shown, innocent people end up being hurt by this system. It’s why we have laws and a constitution. This is not a monarchy where the king decides who gets his head chopped off.


It is okay to deny people due process if you are in Guantanamo Bay. I don’t understand how people can ignore we imprison people without due process 90 miles offshore on a US military base. Everyone upset about this case should be upset Guantanamo Bay is still open. How about we clean house first?


Blanket assertions of violation of due process is a smoke screen. You don't even know what due process is and who is due what.
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