Dockworker’s strike

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

So this is a lie. Under the current contract, the top rate is $39 an hour. The top, not the average. At the top, a longshoreman would need to work 16.5 hours a day, every single day of the year to hit $300k. And that’s assuming 1.5x once you hit 40 hours. Come on man. At least lie better.

Starting wage is $20 an hour. At that rate you could work 24/7/365 and not get to 300k.

https://wapo.st/4dJwiIF (Gift link, so read it and learn).

You're not including bonuses and profit sharing.

$153k in bonuses and profit sharing? Part of the reason they are striking is lack of profit sharing during a period of record profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

So this is a lie. Under the current contract, the top rate is $39 an hour. The top, not the average. At the top, a longshoreman would need to work 16.5 hours a day, every single day of the year to hit $300k. And that’s assuming 1.5x once you hit 40 hours. Come on man. At least lie better.

Starting wage is $20 an hour. At that rate you could work 24/7/365 and not get to 300k.

https://wapo.st/4dJwiIF (Gift link, so read it and learn).

You're not including bonuses and profit sharing.

$153k in bonuses and profit sharing? Part of the reason they are striking is lack of profit sharing during a period of record profits.

There was profit sharing. They just want a larger piece of it.

The reason their share isn't bigger is because the longshoremen don't share in the downside. Shipping was hurting pretty bad in 2018-2020 before massively rebounding in 2021-2023. It does not have record profits right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

So this is a lie. Under the current contract, the top rate is $39 an hour. The top, not the average. At the top, a longshoreman would need to work 16.5 hours a day, every single day of the year to hit $300k. And that’s assuming 1.5x once you hit 40 hours. Come on man. At least lie better.

Starting wage is $20 an hour. At that rate you could work 24/7/365 and not get to 300k.

https://wapo.st/4dJwiIF (Gift link, so read it and learn).

You're not including bonuses and profit sharing.

$153k in bonuses and profit sharing? Part of the reason they are striking is lack of profit sharing during a period of record profits.

There was profit sharing. They just want a larger piece of it.

The reason their share isn't bigger is because the longshoremen don't share in the downside. Shipping was hurting pretty bad in 2018-2020 before massively rebounding in 2021-2023. It does not have record profits right now.

How much do the company ceos and top management make?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

So this is a lie. Under the current contract, the top rate is $39 an hour. The top, not the average. At the top, a longshoreman would need to work 16.5 hours a day, every single day of the year to hit $300k. And that’s assuming 1.5x once you hit 40 hours. Come on man. At least lie better.

Starting wage is $20 an hour. At that rate you could work 24/7/365 and not get to 300k.

https://wapo.st/4dJwiIF (Gift link, so read it and learn).

And? 147k is half of the 300k PP pulled out of his a**. And this guy doesn’t source his $147k.

It's the average. Can you read?

[Anonymous]

Under the ILA's former contract with USMX, which expired on Monday, starting pay for dockworkers was $20 per hour. That rose to $24.75 per hour after two years on the job and to $31.90 after three years, topping out at $39 for workers with at least six years of service. That top-tier hourly wage of $39 amounts to just over $81,000 annually.

Yes, most make 6 figures, but that requires significant overtime. You really need to look at the hourly rate.

[Anonymous]

Ah, dockworkers. I remember their scams like yesterday growing up in NJ. The hourly rate is such a scam. Most are claiming time and a half and double time overtime, all sorts of bonuses, etc.

The most likely place you’ll not find a dockworker is at the docks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah, dockworkers. I remember their scams like yesterday growing up in NJ. The hourly rate is such a scam. Most are claiming time and a half and double time overtime, all sorts of bonuses, etc.

The most likely place you’ll not find a dockworker is at the docks.

The glory days when Tony from the bada bing ran the show.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

The dockworkers don't want Harris. That's all. Unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So a month before the election we’re on the verge of a massive dockworker’s strike that will basically shut down US Atlantic ports. This seems like a huge disaster for Biden and Harris. What leverage do they have to step in?

The dockworkers don't want Harris. That's all. Unfortunately.

That's exactly right. The unions are Trumpers these days. The head of the Longshoreman Union has been a friend of Trump for decades. It's very clear the union has decided to tank the economy weeks before the election in order to ensure victory for Trump. And it's going to work too.

[Anonymous]

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An aside is that there’s a viral panic forming on Facebook. I’ve seen many posts of a Costco with empty meat cases and empty toilet paper shelves. Yes these are probably shots from 2020. Most to is made in the U.S. and the strike only started yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the rich DC residents are angry that skilled dock workers elate earning more than Conchita, their maid from Guatemala.

I hope that tough union guy chokes out your Whole Foods and forces you to eat processed foods for a few months.

But we need cheap, organic strawberries for the working poor in DC!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's worse - Biden mentioning collective bargaining yesterday or both sides meeting last week for the first time since June?

Since JUNE??

It is clear now that the head of this union is a Trump supporter and has not been negotiating in good faith and wants this work stoppage to make Biden look bad.

Every longshoreman I know is a Trump supporter, which is really ironic, but they don't see it that way.

Because they’re morons who can’t do regular careers because they dropped out of school and became dead-enders. Uneducated blue collar morons who never made anything of themselves but are now trying to overthrow an election by destroying the economy.

Basically it’s another J6 attempt. Same type people though. Thugs.

Anyone who doesn’t have a college degree shouldn’t vote. We need to have IQ tests before you pull the lever.

+ a MILLION.

I’ve been saying this for years. You should have at least a BA, or score at least a 140 on the standard battery IQ tests in order to be allowed to vote

Simply doing this one thing would eliminate 90% of republicans from being able to vote. There needs to be an executive order for this.

Bring back literacy tests! Only landowners must vote! We are the party saving democracy!!

You won’t have a democracy if you let morons keep voting for trump.

You take away their vote, they will find other ways to express themselves. Like trying to overthrow the govt or attacking the food supply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden had no problem crushing a rail strike. Does he blink here?

He thought that was a different kind of “rail” & didn’t want Hunter to suffer withdrawal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about unions trying to sabotage the economy in order to throw the election to trump. That’s ALL this is.

The average dock worker earns $300,000/yr!!! I have an advanced degree and work in public service and I don’t earn that much! These are basically knuckleheads with no education who operate equipment, they’re overpaid as it is.

This is political interference. The DoJ needs to look into this immediately.

Boo Hoo. Hard physical work that provides the commodities and manufactured products necessary for civilization makes more money than your non-essential, sap sucking, parasitic, sloppy, slovenly “work” probably remotely performed in your PJs.

The AVERAGE worker? Bullshit they do. I say this coming from an east coast multi generation longshoreman family (uncles, parent, grandparents, etc).

When I was a little girl my friends father was crushed at work on the docks by a container that fell on him. It wasn’t an isolated event; it happened multiple times I remember from my childhood. My uncle worked as a lasher for 20 years. He has back, shoulder and neck problems from the difficult highly repetitive dangerous work he did. Yes he made a good living and has a pension but it wasn’t $300k even with bonuses (more like $150k MAX and that includes bonuses). But he’s got chronic pain and has had five surgeries since retirement 10 years ago.

Would you give up the ability to walk for $150k a year? To drive, and swim, and hunt?

Your whole posts tells me you don’t have any working class ppl in your family. Maybe don’t participate in the discussion if you don’t have the facts.