Will Trump drop Vance?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.


Can you imagine Trump's team right now? "JD, get the f&*^ in here. The President wants to know, "Did you or did you not f#* a couch?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.


Can you imagine Trump's team right now? "JD, get the f&*^ in here. The President wants to know, "Did you or did you not f#* a couch?"


But even worse, Trump KNOWS people lie about their freaky sexy stuff and he loves to gossip. He's a guy who thinks like Page Six. It doesn't matter if Vance denies it, Trump will assume he's lying and is a freak. And as much as Trump loves salacious details, he abhors freaks. Of course, if Vance cops to it, Trump will think he's a wimp for surrendering AND a freak.

Vance is in a bind on this either way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.


Can you imagine Trump's team right now? "JD, get the f&*^ in here. The President wants to know, "Did you or did you not f#* a couch?"


Look Fox News, NYpost, NYT and WSJ are controlled by Murdoch. The story will never be shown to Trump’s worshipers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


Says you? What’s makes you the expert on how he grew up? Knowing someone spend time in foster care and had unfit parents and several step fathers is enough detail to tell me he didn’t have it great.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.


Can you imagine Trump's team right now? "JD, get the f&*^ in here. The President wants to know, "Did you or did you not f#* a couch?"


Look Fox News, NYpost, NYT and WSJ are controlled by Murdoch. The story will never be shown to Trump’s worshipers.


THe NYT is not controlled by Murdoch. But also, it's already out there. It's trending on TruthSocial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He can't at this point. The delegates have voted and there is no mechanism to change it.

Well on the other hand, it is the party of authoritarians, so I guess Trump will do whatever he wants, though dumping Trump puts Ohio and Appalachia in play.


His body may be aging, but Biden was the mastermind and played Mike Johnson. Remember the delay tactic? The proclamations that he wasn’t stepping down. Remember Obama telling Biden to step down before the RNC? Remember the media blitz? Remember Biden saying two weeks? All perfect delay tactics orchestrated by Biden, and the two men and one woman he trusted. On that Saturday evening, 3 men— Biden, his closest advisor, and his chief strategist worked late into the night. No one knew. First call Sunday morning was to Harris. Letter made public. A little later he endorsed Harris. She immediately hits the trail, and very well prepared. Plenty of time before DNC. She has more than enough delegates, endorsements, epic funding, and her name on the ballot before Ohio plays their silly deadline games. Johnson whining “we’ll litigate.” Not legally possible. That’s why they’re clamoring for Biden to leave office now. They’re going to try to manipulate. Not going to happen. You know what the GOP platform is? Block the other side. They have no policies. They don’t compromise. They don’t work. They threaten to shut down our government. This is their only platform. You know what else isn’t going to happen? Trump demanding a refund from RNC and Biden 😆. This will be Biden’s legacy.



They keep wishing Biden is unfit. Biden's mind is as sharp as ever. This issue is that he can't do the "performative" part of being president, but he can do the strategy part just fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He can't at this point. The delegates have voted and there is no mechanism to change it.

Well on the other hand, it is the party of authoritarians, so I guess Trump will do whatever he wants, though dumping Trump puts Ohio and Appalachia in play.


His body may be aging, but Biden was the mastermind and played Mike Johnson. Remember the delay tactic? The proclamations that he wasn’t stepping down. Remember Obama telling Biden to step down before the RNC? Remember the media blitz? Remember Biden saying two weeks? All perfect delay tactics orchestrated by Biden, and the two men and one woman he trusted. On that Saturday evening, 3 men— Biden, his closest advisor, and his chief strategist worked late into the night. No one knew. First call Sunday morning was to Harris. Letter made public. A little later he endorsed Harris. She immediately hits the trail, and very well prepared. Plenty of time before DNC. She has more than enough delegates, endorsements, epic funding, and her name on the ballot before Ohio plays their silly deadline games. Johnson whining “we’ll litigate.” Not legally possible. That’s why they’re clamoring for Biden to leave office now. They’re going to try to manipulate. Not going to happen. You know what the GOP platform is? Block the other side. They have no policies. They don’t compromise. They don’t work. They threaten to shut down our government. This is their only platform. You know what else isn’t going to happen? Trump demanding a refund from RNC and Biden 😆. This will be Biden’s legacy.



They keep wishing Biden is unfit. Biden's mind is as sharp as ever. This issue is that he can't do the "performative" part of being president, but he can do the strategy part just fine.


And, crucially, Biden isn't running for president.
Anonymous


“Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.”

Do you have any critical thinking? If his mother was so terrible why does he trot her out at campaign events? Normally a child would go no contact with a terribly abusive parent. I believe she had a pill problem while she was a nurse. In the movies she slaps him around and he goes to live with his grandmother when he’s about 14. There’s no mention of foster care.
I believe he had a miserable child hood because he thinks he’s smarter than anyone else and had no friends. He spent all his time indoors brooding about how terrible his life was. I think he has huge mommy issues and that’s why he says awful things about women. He’s too emotionally fragile to be in line to the presidency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump campaign support is imploding... Elon Musk has backed out of his pledge to give Trump campaign $45 million a month

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/


lol. Elon musk hasn’t even been paying his own office space for his various businesses. If Trump believed that pledge he is a grifter who got played by another grifter
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He sets off my gaydar.




Are you Gay? Straight people don’t get to have Gaydar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump campaign support is imploding... Elon Musk has backed out of his pledge to give Trump campaign $45 million a month

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/


lol. Elon musk hasn’t even been paying his own office space for his various businesses. If Trump believed that pledge he is a grifter who got played by another grifter


I think Elon is just trying to do damage control because the optics of Trump being bought by billionaires isn’t great
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump campaign support is imploding... Elon Musk has backed out of his pledge to give Trump campaign $45 million a month

https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/


lol. Elon musk hasn’t even been paying his own office space for his various businesses. If Trump believed that pledge he is a grifter who got played by another grifter


I think Elon is just trying to do damage control because the optics of Trump being bought by billionaires isn’t great


If Musk cared about optics he wouldn't have said he wasn't going to donate while doing na interview with JOrdan Petersen.

He just regrets getting involved with a loser who is trying to shut down the electric vehicle business.

Trump being bought and paid for is one of his charms, according to his supporters. They like his association with mysterious wealth and power.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We should start calling him JD Identifies-As-Vance because that's not the name he was born with.


Has anyone tracked down the houses he grew up in? A nurse mom and CDL truck driver step-dad is not some dire upbringing. And then grandpa was a retired union rep, who "JD" says would randomly come home with new Chevys and Oldsmobiles. Again, not a dire lifestyle.


Are you forgetting he was in and out of foster care and his grandparents had to (mostly) raise him because his mom step dad(s) were too unstable? His mom being a top student in high school is irrelevant. Good parents don’t get their kids put in foster care. He did not have some idyllic middle class childhood and I don’t get why people are trying so hard to say he did.


You’re dodging the question: What sort of houses did he spend MOST of his youth in? He didn’t live in seedy motels or section 8 houses like actual poor people. He lived in nice single family homes owned by family MOST of his upbringing. His book is exaggerations and lies. .


ANd ironically, something that wasn't even IN the book—the couch sex—is what's dominating the news cycle.


Can you imagine Trump's team right now? "JD, get the f&*^ in here. The President wants to know, "Did you or did you not f#* a couch?"


But even worse, Trump KNOWS people lie about their freaky sexy stuff and he loves to gossip. He's a guy who thinks like Page Six. It doesn't matter if Vance denies it, Trump will assume he's lying and is a freak. And as much as Trump loves salacious details, he abhors freaks. Of course, if Vance cops to it, Trump will think he's a wimp for surrendering AND a freak.

Vance is in a bind on this either way.



Vance isn’t in a bind. They’re airing it out now so it isn’t an October surprise, while most of the headlines are still about Harris and the Democrats’ convention run-up.

Remember the old, crass political rule: don’t be caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.

Vance has done neither.

Stop trying to win on gotchas and actually consider running decent candidates with solutions for real people.
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