At least 8 people shot & killed in Allen, TX mall today

[Anonymous]

But this is exactly what they don’t want. They’ve struck down restrictions aimed at limiting access for those with mental health issues, criminal records, etc.

+1 This was literally the first thing the Republicans did when they got the House, Senate and White House in 2017.

Because there is money to be made from businesses selling guns and ammo and, for Republicans, that is all that matters.

Anyone know when the next mass shooting is?

[Anonymous]

I'm waiting for it to happen in DC. Kids are already having gun fights. They will get all smoked up with crack and go out and play with their automatic weapons. The mayor is doing a terrible job. The police chief already put in his papers. I can see its only to get worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for it to happen in DC. Kids are already having gun fights. They will get all smoked up with crack and go out and play with their automatic weapons. The mayor is doing a terrible job. The police chief already put in his papers. I can see its only to get worst.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1131208.page

Already a thread in the local politics forum about the crazy high # of kids shot in DC this year: triple the # in recent years!

There are shootings in DC regularly. A handful of people were shot at a dc funeral home in recent weeks. Didn’t really make a blip in the news beyond wtop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for it to happen in DC. Kids are already having gun fights. They will get all smoked up with crack and go out and play with their automatic weapons. The mayor is doing a terrible job. The police chief already put in his papers. I can see its only to get worst.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1131208.page

Already a thread in the local politics forum about the crazy high # of kids shot in DC this year: triple the # in recent years!

There are shootings in DC regularly. A handful of people were shot at a dc funeral home in recent weeks. Didn’t really make a blip in the news beyond wtop.

There have been 240 carjackings in DC since January 1.

DC is only 61 square miles in size.

Four carjackings for every square mile.since January.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was at an upscale outlet mall by the way.

Is the implication that we should only expect this to be normalized in poor areas?

On top of the tragedy itself, this is yet another affliction to the poorer working class who work in public-facing retail jobs. They must increasingly live in fear every day and second-guess their safety as they head to work. Meanwhile we WFH and have cushy high-security office buildings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was at an upscale outlet mall by the way.

Is the implication that we should only expect this to be normalized in poor areas?

On top of the tragedy itself, this is yet another affliction to the poorer working class who work in public-facing retail jobs. They must increasingly live in fear every day and second-guess their safety as they head to work. Meanwhile we WFH and have cushy high-security office buildings.

DP

I suspect the point is that this area was targeted to impact a certain community and demographic. The shooter didn’t live there.

3 kids were shot in DC in the last day, and it doesn’t make national news.

A shooting at a school or public space in an affluent community makes national/international news and the murderer lives in infamy forever.

Plus: the average Joe lives in fear of school and public space shootings but doesn’t really worry about the daily crime in inner city areas they never go near.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

Why isn’t anyone ever addressing the source of the rage in killers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But this is exactly what they don’t want. They’ve struck down restrictions aimed at limiting access for those with mental health issues, criminal records, etc.

+1 This was literally the first thing the Republicans did when they got the House, Senate and White House in 2017.

Because there is money to be made from businesses selling guns and ammo and, for Republicans, that is all that matters.

Anyone know when the next mass shooting is?

Couldn’t there also be money to be made from selling registration services, licensing practice, safety supplies that complies wirh regulation, etc. I feel like a totally new market could emerge if gun regulations were strengthened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But this is exactly what they don’t want. They’ve struck down restrictions aimed at limiting access for those with mental health issues, criminal records, etc.

+1 This was literally the first thing the Republicans did when they got the House, Senate and White House in 2017.

Because there is money to be made from businesses selling guns and ammo and, for Republicans, that is all that matters.

Anyone know when the next mass shooting is?

Usually the non-school ones are on Saturdays

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

Why isn’t anyone ever addressing the source of the rage in killers?

What rage do our mass shooters have that's not present in all of the other countries that don't have anything like this level of problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

Why isn’t anyone ever addressing the source of the rage in killers?

What rage do our mass shooters have that's not present in all of the other countries that don't have anything like this level of problem?

You believe no country in Central or South America has a massive killing problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

Why isn’t anyone ever addressing the source of the rage in killers?

What rage do our mass shooters have that's not present in all of the other countries that don't have anything like this level of problem?

You believe no country in Central or South America has a massive killing problem?

In Central and South American countries the government act after a massacre. They would arrest the gun shop owners, NRA members and eliminate groups like the Proud Boys, federalist society. They certainly would not allow a front organization like Republican Party to operate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was at an upscale outlet mall by the way.

Is the implication that we should only expect this to be normalized in poor areas?

On top of the tragedy itself, this is yet another affliction to the poorer working class who work in public-facing retail jobs. They must increasingly live in fear every day and second-guess their safety as they head to work. Meanwhile we WFH and have cushy high-security office buildings.

DP

I suspect the point is that this area was targeted to impact a certain community and demographic. The shooter didn’t live there.

3 kids were shot in DC in the last day, and it doesn’t make national news.

A shooting at a school or public space in an affluent community makes national/international news and the murderer lives in infamy forever.

Plus: the average Joe lives in fear of school and public space shootings but doesn’t really worry about the daily crime in inner city areas they never go near.

You need to have about 7-8 killed to make the news for now. I think that has changed with the Brownsville terrorist. Very little coverage of that. I think the number of killed will have to be about 10-12 to get national coverage. This happened in Houston this weekend. Yet conservatives only hype crime in a few “liberal” cities.

It's kind of scary': Shootings across Houston leave 7 teens shot, 2 fatally over the weekend.
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- It was a violent weekend with shootings involving teenagers in the Houston area. Seven teens were shot in separate shootings, two of which were deadly, in the span of just 24 hours.

Surveillance footage from a nearby home shows the aftermath of one of the deadly shootings on Majesticbrook Drive. Teens are seen frantically running from what was supposed to be a high school prom after-party. The party, with roughly 100 teens, turned deadly as it went into the early hours of Saturday morning.

A 16-year-old boy got into a fight with the father of a girl at the party, and both the teen and father took out guns and started firing at each other, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office. The 16-year-old died. The father, who claims self-defense, was not charged, and the case will now go to a grand jury, according to deputies.

https://abc13.com/teenage-crime-shootings-houston-teens-shot/13222079/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm waiting for it to happen in DC. Kids are already having gun fights. They will get all smoked up with crack and go out and play with their automatic weapons. The mayor is doing a terrible job. The police chief already put in his papers. I can see its only to get worst.

You think Crack is still a thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m in Allen, TX. I was in the adjacent shopping center less than an hour before the shooting began. I was at a family bbq 1.5 miles from the outlet when it happened. Within minutes of it beginning, teens at the party were receiving texts with videos from friends at the outlet. Someone at the party was the first to receive a text from a relative in law enforcement who flagged the active shooter situation and told them to stay away.

FTR, I’m a DC metro area native who was just in town for a visit. My relative hosting me in TX is a transplant who has lived her for 10+ years. This area is affluent and purple with a growing transplant community from CA, IL, and the East Coast. This is not a conservative bastion of gun nuts.

I think it’s interesting how some deflect the reality of violence off on “other communities.” We have shootings in the dc metro area, too. I’m not sure what the solution is when so many weapons are already in the community—in all communities…including those with strict gun laws.

I suspect we will learn the shooter was a loner with mental health issues. Perhaps we need more focus on how to flag and intervene when there are concerns about such people? Slippery slope.

FTR, I’m for the strictest gun control measures. I’m just not optimistic they will actually prevent tragic events like this. Crazy angry people intent on murdering people will always find a way. What strategies will work?

Why isn’t anyone ever addressing the source of the rage in killers?

What rage do our mass shooters have that's not present in all of the other countries that don't have anything like this level of problem?

You believe no country in Central or South America has a massive killing problem?

You think these are our peer countries? I was thinking more like Great Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal.