Republicans/“conservatives” who do you support: our American President or Putin?

[Anonymous]

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In my view, this is very representative of most Republicans in this country - they are more fond of an individual who just invaded another country than they are of the majority of Americans who voted in the last election.

They hate half of their own country more than they hate a violent authoritarian dictator. That's the tweet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how republicans think they are the "patriotic" party when in reality the Democrats are the truly patriotic ones.

You can't support Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, Tucker Carlson and all the other clowns of your party and be true, patriotic, Americans. No matter how hard you try, you have lost your patriotism in the name of a fat, babbling, orange haired, criminal. Great choice!

Not a trump supporting republican should ever be allowed to claim they are patriotic Americans when they aren't 100% supporting our Allies aboard and making excuses for why Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Ya'll are worthless at this point and second tier citizens. Truth hurts.

Amen! Over the last decade Republicans have called each other “patriots” for a certain set of heinous beliefs and actions. Well, today it’s clear we don’t need patriots by that definition.

Those patriotic republicans should be lining up to go fight on the frontlines in Kyiv!

Actually, many of those patriotic Republicans are over in Europe - deployed to protect NATO nations.
So, you can stop with the circle-jerk of demeaning Republicans because you are so far into your liberal bubble that you have no idea who Republicans are or what they stand for.

Who are these people who surface to defend republicans w/ the claim that we don’t know the ‘real’ republicans? Like what? You selected and elected Trump as your most recent president. THat is who you are….literally he won a popularity contest based on republicans…that is who you guys wanted. And polling suggests he remains EXTREMELY popular. We know who you are, fool…at least try to come up w/ some creative excuse as to why you are traitorous pieces of sh!t other than…’YOU DONT EVEN KNOW US’

Whine if it makes you feel better.
But, also know that the world was a much calmer, safer, peaceful place when Trump was president.

This tells us all we need to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

First, I believe a lot of this is outdated as a lot has been done with regard to ideological reaalignment in Azov over the last several years.

Secondly, it's ludicrous to project neo-nazi sentiments on Zelensky's government when he himself is a jew who had jewish family murdered in the Holocaust. And it is ludicrous to project neo-nazi sentiments on the Ukrainian people given they elected a jew to lead them with a solid 73% majority vote.

And thirdly, Russia and Belarus also have their own big internal neo-nazi problems and citing Azov makes for hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In my view, this is very representative of most Republicans in this country - they are more fond of an individual who just invaded another country than they are of the majority of Americans who voted in the last election.

They hate half of their own country more than they hate a violent authoritarian dictator. That's the tweet.

I don’t like Trump, Biden, Putin, or Neo Nazis so I’m sitting this one out and hope it doesn’t sink my 401k. That’s the tweet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how republicans think they are the "patriotic" party when in reality the Democrats are the truly patriotic ones.

You can't support Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, Tucker Carlson and all the other clowns of your party and be true, patriotic, Americans. No matter how hard you try, you have lost your patriotism in the name of a fat, babbling, orange haired, criminal. Great choice!

Not a trump supporting republican should ever be allowed to claim they are patriotic Americans when they aren't 100% supporting our Allies aboard and making excuses for why Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Ya'll are worthless at this point and second tier citizens. Truth hurts.

Amen! Over the last decade Republicans have called each other “patriots” for a certain set of heinous beliefs and actions. Well, today it’s clear we don’t need patriots by that definition.

Those patriotic republicans should be lining up to go fight on the frontlines in Kyiv!

Actually, many of those patriotic Republicans are over in Europe - deployed to protect NATO nations.
So, you can stop with the circle-jerk of demeaning Republicans because you are so far into your liberal bubble that you have no idea who Republicans are or what they stand for.

Who are these people who surface to defend republicans w/ the claim that we don’t know the ‘real’ republicans? Like what? You selected and elected Trump as your most recent president. THat is who you are….literally he won a popularity contest based on republicans…that is who you guys wanted. And polling suggests he remains EXTREMELY popular. We know who you are, fool…at least try to come up w/ some creative excuse as to why you are traitorous pieces of sh!t other than…’YOU DONT EVEN KNOW US’

Whine if it makes you feel better.
But, also know that the world was a much calmer, safer, peaceful place when Trump was president.

Wrong. Trump claimed NATO was obsolete because Trump was unable to get some NATO countries to spend at least 2% of GDP on defense, including all important Germany. Now Biden has gotten Germany to commit more than 2%. Germany agreed to the construction of the NordStrom pipeline from Russia under Trump. Now Germany has cancelled the pipeline. This badly weakens Russia’s influence. Trump weakened NATO. Under Biden, NATO is stronger than it was in the Cold War.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-hike-defense-spending-scholz-says-further-policy-shift-2022-02-27/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

First, I believe a lot of this is outdated as a lot has been done with regard to ideological reaalignment in Azov over the last several years.

Secondly, it's ludicrous to project neo-nazi sentiments on Zelensky's government when he himself is a jew who had jewish family murdered in the Holocaust. And it is ludicrous to project neo-nazi sentiments on the Ukrainian people given they elected a jew to lead them with a solid 73% majority vote.

And thirdly, Russia and Belarus also have their own big internal neo-nazi problems and citing Azov makes for hypocrisy.

Ohhh. So you think the Neo Nazi militia has gone through diversity training, read “How to Be an Anti Racist Baby,” and everything is on the up and up? LOL!!

If the American military had a division of Neo Nazi soldiers who marched through the streets with Neo Nazi flags how do you think that would be covered by CNN and MSNBC? Funny how this gets no coverage in the mainstream press. It’s almost like they only care about racism when it doesn’t conflict with their political aims.

[Anonymous]

I imagine most people, Republican or Democrat, don't like what Putin is doing and are aghast at it, but saying we need to jump in and go to war is an entirely different matter.

My view on Ukraine has been evolving in the last few days. Last week I'd be firmly opposed to any US involvement but now I'm not quite sure. And it has nothing to do with Joe Biden beyond that I actually do think had Trump still been president, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine out of fear of Trump. And Biden is partly complicit in allowing the pipeline that Trump opposed. I do think Biden's actions gave off an impression of weakness, as did all the NATO countries in refusing to do what Trump wanted, which was to fulfill their obligations to NATO funding.

What has changed in the last few days is the morphing of Putin from a big bully to someone who seems to be genuinely insane. And that is worrisome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I imagine most people, Republican or Democrat, don't like what Putin is doing and are aghast at it, but saying we need to jump in and go to war is an entirely different matter.

My view on Ukraine has been evolving in the last few days. Last week I'd be firmly opposed to any US involvement but now I'm not quite sure. And it has nothing to do with Joe Biden beyond that I actually do think had Trump still been president, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine out of fear of Trump. And Biden is partly complicit in allowing the pipeline that Trump opposed. I do think Biden's actions gave off an impression of weakness, as did all the NATO countries in refusing to do what Trump wanted, which was to fulfill their obligations to NATO funding.

What has changed in the last few days is the morphing of Putin from a big bully to someone who seems to be genuinely insane. And that is worrisome.

Trump would've been fine with Putin in Ukraine. Just remember how he treated Ukraine, and the fact that Trump didn't want to get involved in more wars.

Rs used to have strong foreign policy, but now that the populists have taken over the party with Trump as the head (RINOS), our foreign policy needs to be reworked.

-former R

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how republicans think they are the "patriotic" party when in reality the Democrats are the truly patriotic ones.

You can't support Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, Tucker Carlson and all the other clowns of your party and be true, patriotic, Americans. No matter how hard you try, you have lost your patriotism in the name of a fat, babbling, orange haired, criminal. Great choice!

Not a trump supporting republican should ever be allowed to claim they are patriotic Americans when they aren't 100% supporting our Allies aboard and making excuses for why Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Ya'll are worthless at this point and second tier citizens. Truth hurts.

Amen! Over the last decade Republicans have called each other “patriots” for a certain set of heinous beliefs and actions. Well, today it’s clear we don’t need patriots by that definition.

Those patriotic republicans should be lining up to go fight on the frontlines in Kyiv!

Actually, many of those patriotic Republicans are over in Europe - deployed to protect NATO nations.
So, you can stop with the circle-jerk of demeaning Republicans because you are so far into your liberal bubble that you have no idea who Republicans are or what they stand for.

Who are these people who surface to defend republicans w/ the claim that we don’t know the ‘real’ republicans? Like what? You selected and elected Trump as your most recent president. THat is who you are….literally he won a popularity contest based on republicans…that is who you guys wanted. And polling suggests he remains EXTREMELY popular. We know who you are, fool…at least try to come up w/ some creative excuse as to why you are traitorous pieces of sh!t other than…’YOU DONT EVEN KNOW US’

Whine if it makes you feel better.
But, also know that the world was a much calmer, safer, peaceful place when Trump was president.

DP. You house is a much calmer, safer-seeming, peaceful place if you ignore the sinkhole rotting open beneath it ... right up until it isn't.

Construction work is messy, loud, and sometimes dangerous. It's also necessary to maintain your house when it is in jeopardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how republicans think they are the "patriotic" party when in reality the Democrats are the truly patriotic ones.

You can't support Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, Tucker Carlson and all the other clowns of your party and be true, patriotic, Americans. No matter how hard you try, you have lost your patriotism in the name of a fat, babbling, orange haired, criminal. Great choice!

Not a trump supporting republican should ever be allowed to claim they are patriotic Americans when they aren't 100% supporting our Allies aboard and making excuses for why Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Ya'll are worthless at this point and second tier citizens. Truth hurts.

Amen! Over the last decade Republicans have called each other “patriots” for a certain set of heinous beliefs and actions. Well, today it’s clear we don’t need patriots by that definition.

Those patriotic republicans should be lining up to go fight on the frontlines in Kyiv!

Actually, many of those patriotic Republicans are over in Europe - deployed to protect NATO nations.
So, you can stop with the circle-jerk of demeaning Republicans because you are so far into your liberal bubble that you have no idea who Republicans are or what they stand for.

Who are these people who surface to defend republicans w/ the claim that we don’t know the ‘real’ republicans? Like what? You selected and elected Trump as your most recent president. THat is who you are….literally he won a popularity contest based on republicans…that is who you guys wanted. And polling suggests he remains EXTREMELY popular. We know who you are, fool…at least try to come up w/ some creative excuse as to why you are traitorous pieces of sh!t other than…’YOU DONT EVEN KNOW US’

Whine if it makes you feel better.
But, also know that the world was a much calmer, safer, peaceful place when Trump was president.

DP. You house is a much calmer, safer-seeming, peaceful place if you ignore the sinkhole rotting open beneath it ... right up until it isn't.

Construction work is messy, loud, and sometimes dangerous. It's also necessary to maintain your house when it is in jeopardy.

+1. The world was not calmer nor safer, you were just focused on other things PP because your guy was in charge. The rest of us not living in Fox News land were terrified at the instability and destruction Trump was causing with our allies and in the Middle East. There was no hard reset after Trump left. What you are seeing is the direct result of the destabilization of NATO that Trump encouraged and the emboldenment of Putin. I’m very sorry for you that you can’t see that. I’ll bet you were also complaining about high gas prices in that other thread because you couldn’t imagine a time when gas might cost more than $2/gal, even though those times have occurred in your own life dozens of times already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

This * ♾ !!!! This is a horrible person he has poisoned and imprisoned people whose views are not aligned with his.

The GOP propaganda machine has convinced its followers that Putin is strong and Biden is weak. It has been repeated over and over and now they believe it. That is how propaganda works. And boy has it worked. Do you really want to live in a society like Russians live under Putin? You certainly won’t be able to own your guns and overthrow your own government and get away with it there. You would all be in Siberia if you were allowed to live in the first place


Biden is not weak. He has re-joined an NATO. these sanctions are harsh. Especially the ones regarding closing the banks and the loans.

[Anonymous]

^^^^. In respect to January 6. I do wish we were more like Russia and all those traitors who wanted to overflow our government would be put away for life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I imagine most people, Republican or Democrat, don't like what Putin is doing and are aghast at it, but saying we need to jump in and go to war is an entirely different matter.

My view on Ukraine has been evolving in the last few days. Last week I'd be firmly opposed to any US involvement but now I'm not quite sure. And it has nothing to do with Joe Biden beyond that I actually do think had Trump still been president, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine out of fear of Trump. And Biden is partly complicit in allowing the pipeline that Trump opposed. I do think Biden's actions gave off an impression of weakness, as did all the NATO countries in refusing to do what Trump wanted, which was to fulfill their obligations to NATO funding.

What has changed in the last few days is the morphing of Putin from a big bully to someone who seems to be genuinely insane. And that is worrisome.

Trump would've been fine with Putin in Ukraine. Just remember how he treated Ukraine, and the fact that Trump didn't want to get involved in more wars.

Rs used to have strong foreign policy, but now that the populists have taken over the party with Trump as the head (RINOS), our foreign policy needs to be reworked.

-former R

It remains that Putin didn't invade the Ukraine while Trump was president (oh, wasn't he supposed to be a Russian stooge?). I'm amused by the various comments on here pretending Trump weakened NATO by calling out NATO's hypocrisy and demanding NATO countries pay their share. And apparently Trump's opposition to the German-Russian pipeline is all part of his weakness And now people are accusing him of weakening the Middle East when his administration played a huge role in the detente between Israel and the Arab countries.

I don't pretend to be a former R as I was never one in the first place. I'm just someone who is pragmatic and not blinded with political hatred and bias. Trump had many failings but his foreign policy was not one of them.

The best description of the situation I've come across is: "In its demented ego-driven way, Trump’s view of the way the world works is intriguingly coherent. And painful though it may be for the many experts who have spent years denouncing him as a disastrous monster to admit, he could well be right: if he were in the White House, Putin probably wouldn’t be doing what he is doing."

Why?

Because as the same writer wrote: "A simpler explanation is more likely. Putin, as a slightly comic alpha male authoritarian, saw in Trump something he recognized — an unstable, unpredictable yet potentially decisive actor on the world stage. Rightly or wrongly, he saw in Trump strength whereas in the Democratic leadership he sees only weakness and folly."

However, I will also say Putin's beliefs have backfired. NATO and the West are responding more sharply than he thought they would. Ukraine is refusing to fold. If Putin does launch a nuclear weapon, it will be a full scale war by all countries against him. Scary, but necessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny how republicans think they are the "patriotic" party when in reality the Democrats are the truly patriotic ones.

You can't support Trump, Dinesh D'Souza, Tucker Carlson and all the other clowns of your party and be true, patriotic, Americans. No matter how hard you try, you have lost your patriotism in the name of a fat, babbling, orange haired, criminal. Great choice!

Not a trump supporting republican should ever be allowed to claim they are patriotic Americans when they aren't 100% supporting our Allies aboard and making excuses for why Putin has invaded Ukraine.

Ya'll are worthless at this point and second tier citizens. Truth hurts.

Amen! Over the last decade Republicans have called each other “patriots” for a certain set of heinous beliefs and actions. Well, today it’s clear we don’t need patriots by that definition.

Those patriotic republicans should be lining up to go fight on the frontlines in Kyiv!

Actually, many of those patriotic Republicans are over in Europe - deployed to protect NATO nations.
So, you can stop with the circle-jerk of demeaning Republicans because you are so far into your liberal bubble that you have no idea who Republicans are or what they stand for.

Who are these people who surface to defend republicans w/ the claim that we don’t know the ‘real’ republicans? Like what? You selected and elected Trump as your most recent president. THat is who you are….literally he won a popularity contest based on republicans…that is who you guys wanted. And polling suggests he remains EXTREMELY popular. We know who you are, fool…at least try to come up w/ some creative excuse as to why you are traitorous pieces of sh!t other than…’YOU DONT EVEN KNOW US’

Whine if it makes you feel better.
But, also know that the world was a much calmer, safer, peaceful place when Trump was president.

DP. You house is a much calmer, safer-seeming, peaceful place if you ignore the sinkhole rotting open beneath it ... right up until it isn't.

Construction work is messy, loud, and sometimes dangerous. It's also necessary to maintain your house when it is in jeopardy.

+1. The world was not calmer nor safer, you were just focused on other things PP because your guy was in charge. The rest of us not living in Fox News land were terrified at the instability and destruction Trump was causing with our allies and in the Middle East. There was no hard reset after Trump left. What you are seeing is the direct result of the destabilization of NATO that Trump encouraged and the emboldenment of Putin. I’m very sorry for you that you can’t see that. I’ll bet you were also complaining about high gas prices in that other thread because you couldn’t imagine a time when gas might cost more than $2/gal, even though those times have occurred in your own life dozens of times already.

+2
This is the price we all pay for Trumpers choosing to be ignorant morons who don’t read actual news.

And cite your “source,” 9:48. Sounds like another right wing extremist being worshipful of outfit of the emperor wearing no clothes.