Republicans/“conservatives” who do you support: our American President or Putin?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The time for divided loyalties and mealy mouth double-speak is over. You need to either actively support our President or you cast your lot with Putin.

Which are you going to pick?

Edge-lording has consequences. This is no longer a joke.

This is such a dumb thread, OP.
We can hold two thoughts at one time. We can believe that Putin is evil and doing horrific things that he should be severely punished for (like an eternity in hell).
We can also believe that Biden has shown himself to be weak and ineffective when it comes to Russian aggression.

I pray daily that our leaders will make decisions that are best for the world. I don't think the US has done what it needs to do to punish Russia and save lives.

Get this straight.... because we criticize our current president does not make us loyal to another country.

It does when you keep repeating baseless accusations. What should Biden do, specifically? Send US troops?

Ok troll. No it doesn’t. Your initial question is baseless. But since you stomped your feet and held your breath like a child, we’ll placate you since that’s what we here in the US do of late, placate entitled little brats.

1) Starting today Russia should be cut off financially and economically. Period. It’s time to find out who in NATO (including a Germany) really puts their money where their mouth is.
2) NATO forces should be deployed immediately to Ukraine if their leader agrees to join NATO. If not, then not.
3) Assuming #2 happens, an offensive on Russian military facilities in western Russia should begin. Putin’s force are now stretched so his backside is open.
4) Massive cyber attacks against Russian systems should begin. Ransomware their entire national system, with the price being Putin’s head.
5) Putin should be targeted for assassination.

Post war we should immediately send in nato forces to dismantle all nuclear weapons from Russia. If you invade other countries you lose your right to have these weapons. Until they install an acceptable form of western government they do not get to have them again. This is called hard ball and it is the only way with bullies. We’ve been too soft for too long. This will also set and example for China and other dictators and despots around the globe. Too much power in too few hands while ignoring and abusing your citizens will no longer be accepted. Unprovoked invasions will no longer be accepted. Harboring terrorists will no longer be accepted. You’ll be cutoff from trade and left to wither and die and if you invade another nation you’ll be swiftly and firmly rebuked.

Really? How, exactly, would you accomplish all this? China has nukes, as does N. Korea, for starters.

Foreign policy is complex. Before criticizing Biden, it's wise to understand what he's facing. And it's not a simple situation. You're proposing NATO countries INVADE Russia to remove their nukes? China is watching, don't forget.

Just isolate them and let their economy implode will do the job for us. Those oligarchs aren't going to like being stuck in Russia and having all of their toys taken away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Russian missiles fired into Ukraine aren’t even hitting the targets. No way they can hit the US. No wonder he mentioned the thermobaric bomb! That’s all they have. The Ukrainians are putting up more of a fight than Russia expected, according to news reports.

Read up before posting.

This is sheer ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I support Biden but he is not doing very well.

I agree. I wish he'd do more, come down harder on Putin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The time for divided loyalties and mealy mouth double-speak is over. You need to either actively support our President or you cast your lot with Putin.

Which are you going to pick?

Edge-lording has consequences. This is no longer a joke.

This is such a dumb thread, OP.
We can hold two thoughts at one time. We can believe that Putin is evil and doing horrific things that he should be severely punished for (like an eternity in hell).
We can also believe that Biden has shown himself to be weak and ineffective when it comes to Russian aggression.

I pray daily that our leaders will make decisions that are best for the world. I don't think the US has done what it needs to do to punish Russia and save lives.

Get this straight.... because we criticize our current president does not make us loyal to another country.

It does when you keep repeating baseless accusations. What should Biden do, specifically? Send US troops?

Ok troll. No it doesn’t. Your initial question is baseless. But since you stomped your feet and held your breath like a child, we’ll placate you since that’s what we here in the US do of late, placate entitled little brats.

1) Starting today Russia should be cut off financially and economically. Period. It’s time to find out who in NATO (including a Germany) really puts their money where their mouth is.
2) NATO forces should be deployed immediately to Ukraine if their leader agrees to join NATO. If not, then not.
3) Assuming #2 happens, an offensive on Russian military facilities in western Russia should begin. Putin’s force are now stretched so his backside is open.
4) Massive cyber attacks against Russian systems should begin. Ransomware their entire national system, with the price being Putin’s head.
5) Putin should be targeted for assassination.

Post war we should immediately send in nato forces to dismantle all nuclear weapons from Russia. If you invade other countries you lose your right to have these weapons. Until they install an acceptable form of western government they do not get to have them again. This is called hard ball and it is the only way with bullies. We’ve been too soft for too long. This will also set and example for China and other dictators and despots around the globe. Too much power in too few hands while ignoring and abusing your citizens will no longer be accepted. Unprovoked invasions will no longer be accepted. Harboring terrorists will no longer be accepted. You’ll be cutoff from trade and left to wither and die and if you invade another nation you’ll be swiftly and firmly rebuked.

Really? How, exactly, would you accomplish all this? China has nukes, as does N. Korea, for starters.

Foreign policy is complex. Before criticizing Biden, it's wise to understand what he's facing. And it's not a simple situation. You're proposing NATO countries INVADE Russia to remove their nukes? China is watching, don't forget.

Just isolate them and let their economy implode will do the job for us. Those oligarchs aren't going to like being stuck in Russia and having all of their toys taken away.

WW3 is an economic war with Russia. And it’s working. Once the billionaires lose hope, Putin has as much power as Ben Shapiro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

Simple question. Do you support us providing arms to a Neo Nazi division that’s stated goal is ethnic cleansing?

Yes or no?

This is from Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-reverses-ban-praise-ukraine-far-right-forces-2022-2?amp

In 2010, Andriy Biletsky, its first commander who was also a former parliamentarian, said Ukraine is meant to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans)", The Guardian reported in 2018.

If it’s an army with a Neo Nazi division verse Putin I’m not going to pretend that there’s nothing to see here and gloss over the fact that we are funding Nazis. Maybe that makes me ideologically consistent and that’s not a virtue to you. You’re probably the same type of person who was okay with us funding Nazis in South American in service or squashing leftist politicians. I wasn’t fine with that then and I’m not fine with this now.

And Trump supporters chanted “Jews will not replace us!” Stalin’s forces opposed Hitler and needed no armbands to deport hundreds of thousands of Jews to brutal slave labor camps in the east. There’s anti Semitism in all Slavic countries but Ukraine is making real progress. A Jewish candidate won an overwhelming victory in the last Presidential election.

[Anonymous]

The world needs a hero like Zelensky. He's in mortal danger every second, yet he stays in Kiev and defends his country. I wish him well and victory over the Russians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

Simple question. Do you support us providing arms to a Neo Nazi division that’s stated goal is ethnic cleansing?

Yes or no?

This is from Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-reverses-ban-praise-ukraine-far-right-forces-2022-2?amp

In 2010, Andriy Biletsky, its first commander who was also a former parliamentarian, said Ukraine is meant to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans)", The Guardian reported in 2018.

If it’s an army with a Neo Nazi division verse Putin I’m not going to pretend that there’s nothing to see here and gloss over the fact that we are funding Nazis. Maybe that makes me ideologically consistent and that’s not a virtue to you. You’re probably the same type of person who was okay with us funding Nazis in South American in service or squashing leftist politicians. I wasn’t fine with that then and I’m not fine with this now.

And Trump supporters chanted “Jews will not replace us!” Stalin’s forces opposed Hitler and needed no armbands to deport hundreds of thousands of Jews to brutal slave labor camps in the east. There’s anti Semitism in all Slavic countries but Ukraine is making real progress. A Jewish candidate won an overwhelming victory in the last Presidential election.

Stalin literally defeated Hitler. What the hell is wrong with you ahistorical dullards? Also, Hitler and the Nazis hated and gassed Slavs, so a Slavic Nazi makes as much sense as a Jewish or Roma Nazi.

And Richard Spencer led the chants you were talking about. And some of the same American Neo Nazis you’re talking about have immigrated to former Soviet republics like Ukraine where there are large contingents of hard core, unrepentant Neo Nazis. There aren’t just rednecks who tell off color jokes in these countries. They are filled with violent Neo Nazi extremeists who want to kill Jews, Slavs, and other races and ethnicities they think are less pure.

Richard Spencer voted for Biden and has a Ukrainian flag as his avatar on Twitter.

https://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-votes-joe-biden-hell-libertarian-ideology-1544572?amp=1

But please lecture me about how the people who defeated and were sent to concentration camps by the actual Nazis are the real Nazis in this situation. Not the paramilitary division that flies Nazi flags and wants to exterminate Slavs.

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

Don't know what you and PP are bickering about, but presence of Nazi cells in a country doesn't mean the country supports it.
Look at the U.S. white supremacy groups. Living large and thriving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putin is better than Biden, Biden is so weak old and mentally gone that anyone else is better

There's the answer. The GOP is against America

Any GOP who supports the murderous Putin is a traitor. Jail them.

They hate America. In the words of the younger Bush, are they with us or against us?

I don't like Putin or the Russians.

But at the same time, the Russians haven't trashed our cities, opened our borders to millions of illegals, passed out billions to the indolent or attempted to brainwash our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putin is better than Biden, Biden is so weak old and mentally gone that anyone else is better

There's the answer. The GOP is against America

Any GOP who supports the murderous Putin is a traitor. Jail them.

They hate America. In the words of the younger Bush, are they with us or against us?

I don't like Putin or the Russians.

But at the same time, the Russians haven't trashed our cities, opened our borders to millions of illegals, passed out billions to the indolent or attempted to brainwash our kids.

You're already plenty brainwashed, yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

Simple question. Do you support us providing arms to a Neo Nazi division that’s stated goal is ethnic cleansing?

Yes or no?

This is from Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-reverses-ban-praise-ukraine-far-right-forces-2022-2?amp

In 2010, Andriy Biletsky, its first commander who was also a former parliamentarian, said Ukraine is meant to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans)", The Guardian reported in 2018.

If it’s an army with a Neo Nazi division verse Putin I’m not going to pretend that there’s nothing to see here and gloss over the fact that we are funding Nazis. Maybe that makes me ideologically consistent and that’s not a virtue to you. You’re probably the same type of person who was okay with us funding Nazis in South American in service or squashing leftist politicians. I wasn’t fine with that then and I’m not fine with this now.

And Trump supporters chanted “Jews will not replace us!” Stalin’s forces opposed Hitler and needed no armbands to deport hundreds of thousands of Jews to brutal slave labor camps in the east. There’s anti Semitism in all Slavic countries but Ukraine is making real progress. A Jewish candidate won an overwhelming victory in the last Presidential election.

Stalin literally defeated Hitler. What the hell is wrong with you ahistorical dullards? Also, Hitler and the Nazis hated and gassed Slavs, so a Slavic Nazi makes as much sense as a Jewish or Roma Nazi.

And Richard Spencer led the chants you were talking about. And some of the same American Neo Nazis you’re talking about have immigrated to former Soviet republics like Ukraine where there are large contingents of hard core, unrepentant Neo Nazis. There aren’t just rednecks who tell off color jokes in these countries. They are filled with violent Neo Nazi extremeists who want to kill Jews, Slavs, and other races and ethnicities they think are less pure.

Richard Spencer voted for Biden and has a Ukrainian flag as his avatar on Twitter.

https://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-votes-joe-biden-hell-libertarian-ideology-1544572?amp=1

But please lecture me about how the people who defeated and were sent to concentration camps by the actual Nazis are the real Nazis in this situation. Not the paramilitary division that flies Nazi flags and wants to exterminate Slavs.

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

Russia has its own big neo-Nazi problem. This is NOT about de-Nazification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

Don't know what you and PP are bickering about, but presence of Nazi cells in a country doesn't mean the country supports it.
Look at the U.S. white supremacy groups. Living large and thriving.

The Ukraine literally rolled a Neo Nazi paramilitary group, the Azov Battallion, into their National Guard. So yes the country supports it.

It’s like saying if the US Military had a division made up exclusively of Aryan Nation gang members that the US doesn’t support white supremacy. This is different than having some racists in your ranks. Again, Ukraine has a Neo Nazi division in its National Guard that wants to exterminate non Aryans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So Trump is Purim’s puppet even though Putin invaded other countries under GWB, Obama, and now Biden? Got it.

And we don’t like white supremacy but for some reason like the Azov Battalion, which is a Neo Nazi division of the Ukrainian National Guard? Got it.

And we also don’t like white supremacy but will watch wall to wall coverage of Ukrainian civilians getting bombed but won’t bat an eye when Yemen is bombed to pieces by the Saudis, Afghani kids starve to death because of our sanctions, and Muslims are thrown in camps by the Chinese government. Got it.

This all makes a lot of sense to me. Just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.

Chaser:

Hi Comrade! Take a break from trolling and stock up your pantry, hungry times are coming for Russia.

McCarthyism is so 70 years ago sweetheart.

The same people who had BLM posters in their yard are calling people traitors for not actively rooting for Neo Nazi militias now. SMH.

your priorities and ability to see scale in issues is skewed. One country is invading another. Killing countless lives. If a few of the citizens of that country are not great, that doesn't make the invasion any better. It makes the country a country with humans living in it. The invasion of a country will cause much wider destruction than the individual beliefs of a few soldiers. If you can't see the difference in scale that is appalling. I hope you are just using bad logic in an internet argument and are able to comprehend the magnitude of difference.

It is not a few soldiers! Stop with your misinformation. The Azov Battalion is, like it sounds, an entire battalion of Neo Nazis who are a division of the Ukrainian National Militia. They march to a flag that is basically a modernized swastika on Ukrainian colors. They are so bad that Facebook banned people from praising them and put them in the same category as the KKK and ISIS up until Russia invaded. Now, for some reason, Facebook has no problem with people praising a Neo Nazi paramilitary group that wants to ethnically cleansed non Aryans from Ukraine.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/christopherm51/neo-nazi-group-facebook

The point is that all these Democrats calling people white supremacists for voting for Trump or having retrograde opinions on race are actively cheerleading for a Neo Nazi militia that wants to ethnically cleanse non Aryans from the Ukraine. These aren’t rednecks who say racist jokes sometimes and happen to be in the military. These are actual Neo Nazis who march under a Neo Nazi flag and are armed and state that their whole purpose is ethnic and racial genocide. This isn’t about a few bad apples in the Ukrainian military, some off color jokes by Ukranian soldiers, or microagressions. These is an actual Neo Nazi division of the military. Shame on you.

So I never want to hear people on the left talk about white supremacy or racism if you’re calling people traitors for pointing this out and aren’t actually horrified that we are funding these people.

The very fact that you are more concerned with “people on the left” rather than a dictator with nuclear bombs that can end civilization as we know it on the planet shows hoe very very misplaced your focus is.

Simple question. Do you support us providing arms to a Neo Nazi division that’s stated goal is ethnic cleansing?

Yes or no?

This is from Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-reverses-ban-praise-ukraine-far-right-forces-2022-2?amp

In 2010, Andriy Biletsky, its first commander who was also a former parliamentarian, said Ukraine is meant to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led Untermenschen (subhumans)", The Guardian reported in 2018.

If it’s an army with a Neo Nazi division verse Putin I’m not going to pretend that there’s nothing to see here and gloss over the fact that we are funding Nazis. Maybe that makes me ideologically consistent and that’s not a virtue to you. You’re probably the same type of person who was okay with us funding Nazis in South American in service or squashing leftist politicians. I wasn’t fine with that then and I’m not fine with this now.

And Trump supporters chanted “Jews will not replace us!” Stalin’s forces opposed Hitler and needed no armbands to deport hundreds of thousands of Jews to brutal slave labor camps in the east. There’s anti Semitism in all Slavic countries but Ukraine is making real progress. A Jewish candidate won an overwhelming victory in the last Presidential election.

Stalin literally defeated Hitler. What the hell is wrong with you ahistorical dullards? Also, Hitler and the Nazis hated and gassed Slavs, so a Slavic Nazi makes as much sense as a Jewish or Roma Nazi.

And Richard Spencer led the chants you were talking about. And some of the same American Neo Nazis you’re talking about have immigrated to former Soviet republics like Ukraine where there are large contingents of hard core, unrepentant Neo Nazis. There aren’t just rednecks who tell off color jokes in these countries. They are filled with violent Neo Nazi extremeists who want to kill Jews, Slavs, and other races and ethnicities they think are less pure.

Richard Spencer voted for Biden and has a Ukrainian flag as his avatar on Twitter.

https://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-votes-joe-biden-hell-libertarian-ideology-1544572?amp=1

But please lecture me about how the people who defeated and were sent to concentration camps by the actual Nazis are the real Nazis in this situation. Not the paramilitary division that flies Nazi flags and wants to exterminate Slavs.

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

Russia has its own big neo-Nazi problem. This is NOT about de-Nazification.

Do they have a Neo Nazi division in their military like the Azov Battalion? I’m pretty sure there are white racists in most Western countries militaries. That isn’t the same thing as having an entire Neo Nazi division in your military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putin is better than Biden, Biden is so weak old and mentally gone that anyone else is better

There's the answer. The GOP is against America

Any GOP who supports the murderous Putin is a traitor. Jail them.

They hate America. In the words of the younger Bush, are they with us or against us?

I don't like Putin or the Russians.

But at the same time, the Russians haven't trashed our cities, opened our borders to millions of illegals, passed out billions to the indolent or attempted to brainwash our kids.

You're already plenty brainwashed, yourself.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And here is the New York Times, not Fox News, reporting on how European Nazi cells are flocking to Ukraine. This is from two days ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/militias-russia-ukraine.html

Don't know what you and PP are bickering about, but presence of Nazi cells in a country doesn't mean the country supports it.
Look at the U.S. white supremacy groups. Living large and thriving.

The Ukraine literally rolled a Neo Nazi paramilitary group, the Azov Battallion, into their National Guard. So yes the country supports it.

It’s like saying if the US Military had a division made up exclusively of Aryan Nation gang members that the US doesn’t support white supremacy. This is different than having some racists in your ranks. Again, Ukraine has a Neo Nazi division in its National Guard that wants to exterminate non Aryans.

Putin is the one who’s made your side impossible to defend right now.

In the long run, I think people who live there should decide what borders are where. If ethnic Russians or others in Eastern Ukraine have problems with the government of Ukraine, then I guess we should help people resolve their differences, if anyone wants our help. If they do a better job of making their case, and there are really terrible abuses, maybe the EU, the U.S., the UN or NATO could help.

But, right now, Russia isn’t just surgically attacking one neo-Nazi stronghold. It’s waging all-out war against the equivalents of Charlottesville and Chevy Chase, and threatening to nuke us. It could be a lot more persuasive if it at least took nukes off the table.