Would you support a hard shutdown option for two to four weeks to crush the virus?
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Anonymous
Right? I cannot believe how many people on here say we should be like China. Than we would live in an authoritarian regime and STILL see millions die of COVID. People actually think that China doesn't have thousands upon thousands of people dying from this every day? They do. |
Anonymous
I agree. The fact the restaurant industry managed to convince people they were being patriotic bu ordering takeout was absurd. What it really meant was that restaurants workers had to risk their lives by going into work instead of being eligible for unemployment. |
Anonymous
Hong Kong is worried about 500 new cases over a 14 day period. That's an average of 35 new cases per day. Hong Kong's population is 7 million. 35/7 million = 5/million So they are FREAKING OUT over this large outbreak ---- FIVE NEW CASES PER MILLION PER DAY. FIVE. Maryland is at 125 new cases per million per day and we are still talking about whether we should cloe the bars. Florida is at something like 500 new cases per million per day and they have Disneyworld open. Hong Kong knows what the eff they are doing. YOU DON'T GET TO COMPARE US WITH HONG KONG. They did everything right, they shit spread down, and now, when they see local outbreaks they work hard to eradicate them. NO STATE IN THE US IS EVEN CLOSE TO 5 NEW CASES PER MILLION PER DAY. +1 |
Anonymous
| YES to the hard shutdown. |
Anonymous
No we don’t. I haven’t been to a store once since March. I use delivery exclusively, and people would definitely make is 2 weeks without a trip. |
Anonymous
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No. All it would do is kick the can down the road (again), and not nearly far enough (widespread vaccination is a year away at the very best)
Have we learned nothing in the past months? Shutdowns don’t work. Especially not in the US (where people can and do travel freely between states- and that won’t change even if maybe it should) |
Anonymous
+1 Can you read? It's not the 500 cases they're worried about. That's the tip of the iceberg. They are admitting that they've lost control. The problem is that 40% of the people who have the virus have no symptoms. They're out spreading the virus around. Once you lose control of the "trace" part of the spread of cases, there's no stopping it. You'd have to test every single person basically every day. So, for those 500 that they know about, there's another 300 or so who are out happily and asymptomatically spreading virus. So shutting down only works as long as you're shut down. The minute you reopen, those asymptomatic people go out again. They stopped SARS because it had a long incubation period in which people weren't contagious, and then only became contagious when they were symptomatic. You could ID all of the symptomatic people, and then test and trace. With covid, the spreaders can be anyone. |
Anonymous
That's hilariously wrong. The "magical thinking" is coming from the opposite side, from people talking about McDonald's and car accidents and the flu. "It's fine! Send all the kids to school! They totes won't get sick anyway." Rolling the dice and playing the odds that the kid who gets sick and gets REALLY sick isn't their kid. It's like covidiot fan fiction. |
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It won’t help
“ Lastly, government actions such as border closures, full lockdowns, and a high rate of COVID-19 testing were not associated with statistically significant reductions in the number of critical cases or overall mortality.” https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30208-X/fulltext |
Anonymous
You guys can believe whatever you want to believe, but the thing is, people in China are having a normal life now. I recently chatted with a few friends live there and they all told me things are almost back to normal. The government is very serious about this virus and treat it not lighthearted at all. |
Anonymous
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Absolutely. We could all load up with enough supplies for a couple of weeks and stop the prolonging of this awful virus.
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Anonymous
Well if I lived in China, I’d say that too. Who knows if it’s true? What do you think the consequences are for contradicting government propaganda to westerners? But, you know maybe things are back to normal there bc they’ve reached herd immunity. |
Anonymous
| Yes. 100%. |
Anonymous
| We all saw from another thread that prayer and ginger work! Why would be need another shut down when we can just shave some ginger on our food, and pray while we eat? |
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Yes, I would support a hard shut down. I would be fine with keeping grocery stores open if it made the shutdown more likely, though personally my family would just meal plan and stock up and literally just try to stay in the house unless we had an emergency. If doing this, followed by a mask mandate to last as long as it needs to, would get our numbers down to what we see in other countries that have dealt with major outbreaks, I am 100% for it. I think it would save a lot of lives, which is most important. But I also think it could potentially save our economy. I have friends in Europe who have essentially returned to normal life (kids in school, restaurants and bars open, people working in offices, etc.) because the virus is so well controlled. Thing of how many businesses this has saved, how many jobs in the service, travel and transport industries.
A two week shut down would be more than worth it if it would help get us to that point. I don't even think it would be that hard. I would prefer the certainty of it to the current situation. |