US vs Thailand

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The women embarrassed themselves

No need to celebrate those later goals like that

Anyone who disagrees is trashy

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Anonymous wrote:The US women's team played fantastic and they also acted embarrassingly.

I wasnt embarrassed.

Next time, state "I was embarrassed"

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Anonymous wrote:Would this even be a discussion if it was the mens’ World Cup? Are the women supposed to walk daintily away after scoring goals? Is it more ladylike to hold back from crushing your opponents? Give me a break. These women deserve to celebrate every goal and should score as many as possible. They are the best in the world and should not hold back just to be polite.

Yes, I have said the same thing during the men's world cup. Again, if you watched international football more frequently than just world cup matches every few years, you'd have an understanding of the sport. Goal differential matters. Poor sportsmanship is disappointing at the international level.

Im not sure where the assumption is coming from that I only watch World Cup matches simply because I have an differing opinion, but anyhoo...I played D1, watch a lot of international football, futbol, soccer, whatever you want to call it. So yeah I get the sport and I support these women. I disagree that they showed poor sportsmanship and I think this discussion has sexist undertones.

Female who played D1 here too. Had the discussion with another former college player this morning... we were basically both wincing in disbelief they racked it up to 13. Pretty sure we're not secret misogynists. For how long you must've played in your life, did you really never learn that going over 9 goals is just unnecessarily humiliating the other team?

DP. The previous record was 11. Surely if it was unnecessarily humiliating, the powers that be could have changed up the rules to not count goals more than 9 over towards the goal differential?

Oh? And do you think they should change the rules to force hand shaking after the game and the opposing team kicking the ball out when someone is down injured and all the other things that make up the sportsmanship in the beautiful game? Is that how you live your life? You have no community or morality without official rules?

If not shaking hands counts towards a possible win, but they want people to shake hands anyway, then yes, they should change the rules.

Goal differential matters. If "too many" shouldn't be allowed, then they MUST change the rules, otherwise every single solitary goal counts. And the second a team only scores 7 over instead of 8, and then somehow doesn't make it out of their stage of gameplay, they're going to be criticized for not being competitive or how they should have known better.

If the rules impeded sportsmanship, why keep the rules? The rules make up the beautiful game, and the rules stress that goal differential matters.

We all understand that every goal matters. There is no reason to not score. Understood? Ok.

Not EVERY GOAL needs to be celebrated as if it was an actual game winner though. That is the difference.

Ok. Let's just celebrate every goal as if it's a World Cup goal. Or a first World Cup goal for a particular player.

And leg farts is the classy way to celebrate such a prestigious goal?

Pretty sure all of Ronaldo’s pelvic thrusting after scoring isn’t too classy either.

SUUUUUUUU

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Anonymous wrote:The social justice warriors, also known as the no fun club, alway want to debate. They find a victim in every situation and attempt to exploit it until we all surrender.

Half of them are currently sitting inside their Prius crying.

If the US needs that goal differential to get out of group stage then I guess they should celebrate them with such unbridled enthusiasm.

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Anonymous wrote:The US women's team played fantastic and they also acted embarrassingly.

I wasnt embarrassed.

Next time, state "I was embarrassed"

Funny how they are taking a lot of criticism over this for it not to be a issue. Enough people think their celebrations within the context of both the level of opponent and the actual score warrant criticism.

Many people are embarrassed for them and for you too apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:Would this even be a discussion if it was the mens’ World Cup? Are the women supposed to walk daintily away after scoring goals? Is it more ladylike to hold back from crushing your opponents? Give me a break. These women deserve to celebrate every goal and should score as many as possible. They are the best in the world and should not hold back just to be polite.

Yes, I have said the same thing during the men's world cup. Again, if you watched international football more frequently than just world cup matches every few years, you'd have an understanding of the sport. Goal differential matters. Poor sportsmanship is disappointing at the international level.

Im not sure where the assumption is coming from that I only watch World Cup matches simply because I have an differing opinion, but anyhoo...I played D1, watch a lot of international football, futbol, soccer, whatever you want to call it. So yeah I get the sport and I support these women. I disagree that they showed poor sportsmanship and I think this discussion has sexist undertones.

Female who played D1 here too. Had the discussion with another former college player this morning... we were basically both wincing in disbelief they racked it up to 13. Pretty sure we're not secret misogynists. For how long you must've played in your life, did you really never learn that going over 9 goals is just unnecessarily humiliating the other team?

DP. The previous record was 11. Surely if it was unnecessarily humiliating, the powers that be could have changed up the rules to not count goals more than 9 over towards the goal differential?

Oh? And do you think they should change the rules to force hand shaking after the game and the opposing team kicking the ball out when someone is down injured and all the other things that make up the sportsmanship in the beautiful game? Is that how you live your life? You have no community or morality without official rules?

If not shaking hands counts towards a possible win, but they want people to shake hands anyway, then yes, they should change the rules.

Goal differential matters. If "too many" shouldn't be allowed, then they MUST change the rules, otherwise every single solitary goal counts. And the second a team only scores 7 over instead of 8, and then somehow doesn't make it out of their stage of gameplay, they're going to be criticized for not being competitive or how they should have known better.

If the rules impeded sportsmanship, why keep the rules? The rules make up the beautiful game, and the rules stress that goal differential matters.

We all understand that every goal matters. There is no reason to not score. Understood? Ok.

Not EVERY GOAL needs to be celebrated as if it was an actual game winner though. That is the difference.

Ok. Let's just celebrate every goal as if it's a World Cup goal. Or a first World Cup goal for a particular player.

And leg farts is the classy way to celebrate such a prestigious goal?

So we've gone from
They shouldn't have kept scoring goals!
Oh, ok, now I understand the rules. Well they shouldn't have celebrated!
Oh, ok, now maybe I have a vague understanding of how huge an accomplishment scoring a goal in the World Cup is. Well they shouldn't have celebrated like THAT!

Please.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

Not a single person has said that they should not have kept scoring. How is that fact lost on you?

+1 some people have serious issues with reading comprehension. All they want to hear is exactly what they are saying and that’s it.

It appears to be you two - at least one poster has suggested exactly that.

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Everyone seems to be blowing off the fact that Thailand won 11-0 in a continental competition just last year.

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Anonymous wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goal_difference is a good read for those of us who aren't familiar with the concept.

And for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tactful#English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion

Then take it up with FIFA. The rules make goal differential matter. If it's bad sportsmanship to score N goals over your opponent, then the rules shouldn't require bad sportsmanship. The rules aren't carved in a stone tablet that can never be changed. The rules can be changed. That they haven't been changed to this point is all the counterpoint I need to your "sportsmanship" claims.

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So we've gone from
They shouldn't have kept scoring goals!
Oh, ok, now I understand the rules. Well they shouldn't have celebrated!
Oh, ok, now maybe I have a vague understanding of how huge an accomplishment scoring a goal in the World Cup is. Well they shouldn't have celebrated like THAT!

Please.

Yes they shouldn't have celebrated like that. Classless

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Anonymous wrote:Would this even be a discussion if it was the mens’ World Cup? Are the women supposed to walk daintily away after scoring goals? Is it more ladylike to hold back from crushing your opponents? Give me a break. These women deserve to celebrate every goal and should score as many as possible. They are the best in the world and should not hold back just to be polite.

Yes, I have said the same thing during the men's world cup. Again, if you watched international football more frequently than just world cup matches every few years, you'd have an understanding of the sport. Goal differential matters. Poor sportsmanship is disappointing at the international level.

Im not sure where the assumption is coming from that I only watch World Cup matches simply because I have an differing opinion, but anyhoo...I played D1, watch a lot of international football, futbol, soccer, whatever you want to call it. So yeah I get the sport and I support these women. I disagree that they showed poor sportsmanship and I think this discussion has sexist undertones.

Female who played D1 here too. Had the discussion with another former college player this morning... we were basically both wincing in disbelief they racked it up to 13. Pretty sure we're not secret misogynists. For how long you must've played in your life, did you really never learn that going over 9 goals is just unnecessarily humiliating the other team?

DP. The previous record was 11. Surely if it was unnecessarily humiliating, the powers that be could have changed up the rules to not count goals more than 9 over towards the goal differential?

Oh? And do you think they should change the rules to force hand shaking after the game and the opposing team kicking the ball out when someone is down injured and all the other things that make up the sportsmanship in the beautiful game? Is that how you live your life? You have no community or morality without official rules?

If not shaking hands counts towards a possible win, but they want people to shake hands anyway, then yes, they should change the rules.

Goal differential matters. If "too many" shouldn't be allowed, then they MUST change the rules, otherwise every single solitary goal counts. And the second a team only scores 7 over instead of 8, and then somehow doesn't make it out of their stage of gameplay, they're going to be criticized for not being competitive or how they should have known better.

If the rules impeded sportsmanship, why keep the rules? The rules make up the beautiful game, and the rules stress that goal differential matters.

We all understand that every goal matters. There is no reason to not score. Understood? Ok.

Not EVERY GOAL needs to be celebrated as if it was an actual game winner though. That is the difference.

Ok. Let's just celebrate every goal as if it's a World Cup goal. Or a first World Cup goal for a particular player.

And leg farts is the classy way to celebrate such a prestigious goal?

So we've gone from
They shouldn't have kept scoring goals!
Oh, ok, now I understand the rules. Well they shouldn't have celebrated!
Oh, ok, now maybe I have a vague understanding of how huge an accomplishment scoring a goal in the World Cup is. Well they shouldn't have celebrated like THAT!

Please.

It has always been they should not have celebrated THAT excessively at that point in the game. It wasn't about the number of goals, it was ALWAYS about the exuberance over each goal past the point of the game being competitive. The game was long past being competitive by the time leg fart was whipped out.

[Anonymous]

These women are just very easy to not root for

Whine about their pay without justification, embarrass people with their classless celebrations...

Hoping they lose badly this year

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Anonymous wrote:NP - What is the real concern here? Are those of you who believe the women didn’t act appropriately (whatever that means to you) concerned that it reflects badly on our country as a whole or is it something else? Really curious as to why everyone is so worked up?

If after 12 pages in you still don't understand the difference between class, humility and dignity then it can't be explained now.

How can you support a game that has no class, humility, or dignity in it?

Why does it even matter what the US team did, when the rules enshrine such unacceptable behavior, as far as you're concerned?

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Anonymous wrote:NP - What is the real concern here? Are those of you who believe the women didn’t act appropriately (whatever that means to you) concerned that it reflects badly on our country as a whole or is it something else? Really curious as to why everyone is so worked up?

If after 12 pages in you still don't understand the difference between class, humility and dignity then it can't be explained now.

Ah the irony. These women apparently affronted your personal belief system about “class, humility and dignity” and yet you then go on to personally attack a poster.

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Anonymous wrote:The women embarrassed themselves

No need to celebrate those later goals like that

Anyone who disagrees is trashy

Celebrating is trashy. There are children starving in India.