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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

Kid 11-15 at FCV is likely not better than kid 1-5 at another DA/ECNL club. To make that claim is preposterous. Now if that is the case then go to one of those other clubs, unseat one of their top 5 players and be a starter.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

Kid 11-15 at FCV is likely not better than kid 1-5 at another DA/ECNL club. To make that claim is preposterous. Now if that is the case then go to one of those other clubs, unseat one of their top 5 players and be a starter.

what age group and ECNL club are we talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

Kid 11-15 at FCV is likely not better than kid 1-5 at another DA/ECNL club. To make that claim is preposterous. Now if that is the case then go to one of those other clubs, unseat one of their top 5 players and be a starter.

what age group and ECNL club are we talking about?

NP, but I'll play. How about BRYC 03. Or McLean 02/01.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

Kid 11-15 at FCV is likely not better than kid 1-5 at another DA/ECNL club. To make that claim is preposterous. Now if that is the case then go to one of those other clubs, unseat one of their top 5 players and be a starter.

what age group and ECNL club are we talking about?

NP, but I'll play. How about BRYC 03. Or McLean 02/01.

Those are older ages and the exceptions - I believe that was clearly stated. Even so, not sure how those BRYC or McLean players would unseat FCV players on respective teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

No, I am suggesting that kids 12-15 on any FCV roster are not better than kids 1-5 on any other DA/ECNL team. That to believe that FCV bench players are going to attract more attention from college coaches than top 5 starters at other local clubs is crazy hubris.

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You dont understand showcasing.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

By definition, player 11-15 on FCV are not good enough to start on FCV. College coaches are interested in players who are at least better than the rest of their team on a youth soccer club. Sorry, but FCV isn't Man City. Just wearing the V doesn't make the player magic. The fact is, they are career subs at FCV and even worse than that, they accept being a sub. Nothing says a player is driven to be their best when they a happy being a sub when they could be a starter elsewhere in the same or equivalent showcase. I mean that email to the college coach is really gonna pop when you send them your playing schedule and you tell them to show up in the second half to watch you play. Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

2006. Loudoun beat the '06 FCV DA team this year and picked up several players that were offered spots on the FCV team, but turned them down. I agree that at the other age groups your argument is sound. Also, looking to the future, 2007 Loudoun is ranked ahead of FCV 07s also, but allure of DA has not kicked in yet. We'll see how much stronger FCV gets now that they have Fairfax location and large money backing. It might end up being really strong, but somewhat out of competition with Loudoun as geography shifts over next year especially at younger ages.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not bash the kids. Playing soccer for a low D1 school or D2 program is nothing to scoff at. Just be realistic if your DD is a non-starter. Don't go looking at an ACC, Ivy or SEC school hoping to get a coaches attention.

If that is your goal, you would be better off starting on another team and playing AGAINST those players if you want to impress the top D1 coaches.

Not good enought to start so go to lower team and start. That's how done?

Not necessarily. Perhaps these 20-40 minute a game kids just need a fresh set of eyes and a change of scenery to thrive. But instead of looking for some lateral opportunities where starting could be a real possibility they keep their kids where they are, on the bench out of fear and insecurity. Do you really think just wearing the FCV uniform is going to get you a college offer if your kid is not actually playing a whole lot? Will the offers for the same kid be significantly better because they are sitting in a FCV kit versus starting and playing wearing other colors?

There is no bench player at FCV who will be fielding better offers than a starting player at another DA/ECNL club. But don't listen here, why not ask your kid if she would rather play soccer or watch soccer. She couldn't start at FCV for four years but you think she'll roll into a starting role on a college roster because of the logo on her youth club jersey?

That is flatly wrong. My original comment was player 15 at a top GDA club (FCV is as close to that as exists in our area) was going to get more attention than player 5 on an ECNL team. That is the truth at ages U15 and younger and only a few exceptions at the older ages.

What is flatly wrong? That the offers for a non-starting FCV player are really no better than a starting DA/ECNL player someplace else? Or that kids like watching their team win more than they like to actually play soccer?

I posted the links for FCV already.

Here is ECNL - Loudoun

The data speaks for itself.

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/alumni/



Now McLean is a different story at the older age groups. They are still riding pre-GDA days at the older ages and are successful doing so. BRYC a bit as well but not as much.

And Loudoun is riding pre non-ECNL days.

The reality now is there is no longer the concentration of talent across the region that makes your 14th best, bench riding FCV kid special anymore. In fact, odds are, if there was the concentration that you believe exists your kid 14 isn't even on the team. The concentration going forward is the top five kids across 7 GDA and ECNL clubs. Wearing the big V will no longer be enough. I hear on some planets "V" is the symbol for Hope.

Are you suggesting that there is a DA age group where 7 Loudoun players could make an FCV DA roster? That is laughable on its face.

And not 7 players, there are 7 area clubs with either DA or ECNL.

Player 5 on any Loudoun team is by definition lower than players 1-4. For players 11-15 to not be as strong as player 5 on Loudoun - 7 FCV players must be unseated by those 5 Loudoun players - laughable. Pick any DA/ECNL age group.

2006. Loudoun beat the '06 FCV DA team this year and picked up several players that were offered spots on the FCV team, but turned them down. I agree that at the other age groups your argument is sound. Also, looking to the future, 2007 Loudoun is ranked ahead of FCV 07s also, but allure of DA has not kicked in yet. We'll see how much stronger FCV gets now that they have Fairfax location and large money backing. It might end up being really strong, but somewhat out of competition with Loudoun as geography shifts over next year especially at younger ages.

Ranked higher? Thank you for the laugh. GotSoccer and TopDrawer rankings are a complete joke. Referencing them as important kills credibility.