Fairfax County School Board Votes to Teach 7th Graders about 'Gender Identy'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do the schools need to teach this at all? I understand teaching biology--but I don't understand why we need to address the rest of it at school.

well, it’s in all the newspapers and the media these days. The kids are going to ask questions. It will have to be addressed. The only question for me is at what age is this topic appropriate? 7th seems about right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do the schools need to teach this at all? I understand teaching biology--but I don't understand why we need to address the rest of it at school.

well, it’s in all the newspapers and the media these days. The kids are going to ask questions. It will have to be addressed. The only question for me is at what age is this topic appropriate? 7th seems about right.

That is not the "only" question that should be asked. We also need to ask exactly what the kids are being taught/ brainwashed to think about this subject.

[Anonymous]

Why don't you see if you can get a hold of the curriculum and actually see what is going to be taught before you accuse teachers of lying and brainwashing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why don't you see if you can get a hold of the curriculum and actually see what is going to be taught before you accuse teachers of lying and brainwashing?

I would love to see it. But FYI, I doubt very much that individual teachers are responsible for putting together this curriculum. The state government would never trust that; there are too many teachers out there who might say something that the Agenda deems "wrong."

[Anonymous]

And still I wait for one naysayer to provide any explanation of the harm that comes to their kids besides their own personal discomfort at the very idea and fear of the possibility their kid might end up queer.

I think this has been explained, both here and on another recent thread, but perhaps you are choosing not to listen. Several posters have mentioned the harm of teaching kids that being trans constitutes normal behavior when it clearly is not. It is a form of mental illness. If the teaching were that "there are some people out there with mental illness who are taking hormones/having surgery to become the other gender, and we should all show compassion," that would be one thing. But we all know that is not the way it will be taught.

Also, there is the matter of dressing and changing in bathrooms/lockers with transgender students with different body parts. This could be traumatizing to some kids, and it's something they shouldn't have to deal with. Sure, some kids will accept it as normal, but again....it's not. They shouldn't have to accept this as normal.

And lastly, it will create a lot of unneeded confusion among kids about whether they themselves are trans. Kids who never would have worried about something like this during their identity crisis years--or even younger-- will worry about it now. Bullies will take advantage of new ways to bully sensitive, insecure kids. And parents will struggle to help their child through new layers of needless confusion.

Needless confusion. That's what this will cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://fairfaxfreecitizen.com/2015/07/05/fcps-educating-global-citizens/

right wing take on Fairfax schools

Not sure why you posted this irrelevant nonsense here. I'm a democrat and it's clear transgender is a mental disorder. There's nothing right wing about that. It's plain common sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

In total agreement.

Actually, though, crazy liberals do have one other thing to support their point of view that someone with a penis may actually, in fact, be a woman, or perhaps a bird or a plane or a train or who knows what else. Their "feelings!!!" And remember, in their world, feelings are everything.

[Anonymous]

So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

Such a juvenile response from someone claiming to be a parent. Sorry you have children. If you can't be civil and present your opinion with dignity and respect, you probably shouldn't post here. But, then again, it's anonymous and many people use it as a source of therapy as opposed to a medical professional. That said, my child will fully be supported when she calls out the teacher on teaching non-science based propaganda. You will not beat my child into submission, regardless of your unprofessional and unsound efforts to do so. Also, while you're approach is to use profanity and disrespect and bullying when you don't get your way, my child has been raised to be a thoughtful and respectful conscientious objecter. Newsflash, many of the kids are as well. I believe this will shut this nonsense down. I also believe life will get more difficult for so-called trans kids and that's a real shame. Kids are going to look at them as the source of unnecessary unwarranted bullshit and they are going to feel the heat. There are consequences to the attempt to indoctrinate kids with lies. It's tragic to everyone involved and possibly most dangerous to trans kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

[Anonymous]

Will all the people strenuously touting transgender identity as a "mental illness" please post the credentials that allow you to authoritatively make that diagnosis? If you do, I promise not to join the others in calling you fucktarded bigots.

[Anonymous]

Such a juvenile response from someone claiming to be a parent. Sorry you have children. If you can't be civil and present your opinion with dignity and respect, you probably shouldn't post here. But, then again, it's anonymous and many people use it as a source of therapy as opposed to a medical professional. That said, my child will fully be supported when she calls out the teacher on teaching non-science based propaganda. You will not beat my child into submission, regardless of your unprofessional and unsound efforts to do so. Also, while you're approach is to use profanity and disrespect and bullying when you don't get your way, my child has been raised to be a thoughtful and respectful conscientious objecter. Newsflash, many of the kids are as well. I believe this will shut this nonsense down. I also believe life will get more difficult for so-called trans kids and that's a real shame. Kids are going to look at them as the source of unnecessary unwarranted bullshit and they are going to feel the heat. There are consequences to the attempt to indoctrinate kids with lies. It's tragic to everyone involved and possibly most dangerous to trans kids.

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