It concerns me that they weren't teaching this in middle school before. I pay the taxes and housing prices in Fairfax County so that my children will receive a well rounded education, which includes teaching Gender Identity.
Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.
I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.
Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.
Signed,
A Liberal Christian
I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.
PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.
in your world there is no mental illness. Just quirks. And that's okay. There will always be people like yourself- those who claim to be Christian, but professing anti-Christian beliefs. My child has been thoroughly educated on this and to not accept someone calling him or herself as Christian as fact that he/she actually is. Actions speak louder than words and always will. That said, I disagree that we don't have mental illness. I believe we do. And my expectation is that children, the most vulnerable among us, will not be taught untruths, which will cause them confusion and distress. If a schizophrenic person presents and insists upon the validity of the voices in his/her head, I would not accept my child being told the voices are real because a person "feels" they are. This is utter nonsense. Feelings don't trump biology. A male penis and scrotum and XY chromosomes are present in men. You're feelings that they don't is so goofy and weird, it's beyond ridiculous. My question is how did we ever get to this point. Very scary- the slippery slope we're treading on. Next kids will be taught that heterosexual sex is abnormal and that males who are aroused by the sight of the female species have a disorder. And a liberal person will say, well sure. Remember, everything is relative. There's nothing really normal.
Your spiritual arrogance is breathtaking. Please someone point out again how it is the liberals who are the most intolerant! I'm guessing that you are someone who likes to complain that Christians are discriminated against too, huh?
The devil is among us. You are evidence of that. You can't just have the label and not the behaviour to follow. But, again you're a devil. What other kind of behaviour would we expect from somone as devilish and stupid as yourself.
Okay, aside from the crazy I'll bite. Can you please share with me the list of behaviors you find acceptable as a Christian? Also, in which Bible verse do you find Jesus discussing whether and how transgender issues should be discussed in public schools. I'd like to read it.
In sexual behavior, Jesus and the Bible are very clear. One man, one woman, united in marriage, monogamous, with no sex before marriage. Sorry you find that so offensive.
I don't find that idea offensive, though I do agree with a PP that the Bible is completely full of polygamous relationships. But that is beside the point. You're talking about who should marry and whether they should have sex before they do. I asked about biblical discussion of transgender identity and whether or not it is a mental illness. You saw fit to judge whether or not I am a Christian based on my ideas about whether or not transgender identity is a mental illness and should be explained to children as such. I am asking for biblical backup for your position.
You know, at my church there are faithful members of both political persuasions and many different viewpoints. We may have thoughtful, well-reasoned positions on which we disagree. But I can't even begin to imagine anyone telling another member that they are not true Christians based on nothing more than those disagreements. If your church requires that all members believe all the same things on these questions to be considered Christians, I suspect we are both happy that we attend different ones.
Fake Christian, please shut up! Go have sex with a prostitute or something else you fakers do (all the while preaching that you're Christian) and leave the rest of us alone. All you've shown is that most people would take a tranny all day long, as opposed to fake Christians. You people are the worst!
What's wrong with having sex with prostitutes? Signed, Liberal Christian
It is sex outside of the covenant of marriage and therefore, strictly prohibited by Jesus's teaching.
Oh please. There's lots of sex outside of marriage in the Bible. You right-wingers are ridiculous. How is it Christian to ostracize people who don't believe as you do? This is the problem with the world. Too much judgment. Let people do what they feel is best for them and have the compassion Jesus would have. This is what Christians do.
FCPS is not christian...there are some (probably majority) of people that are christian, but I know Buddhists, Hindi, Muslims, Jews, even Atheists. Telling kids to treat transgender with respect is not different than tell kids to break Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc with respect.
Anonymous wrote:It concerns me that they weren't teaching this in middle school before. I pay the taxes and housing prices in Fairfax County so that my children will receive a well rounded education, which includes teaching Gender Identity.
I am very liberal socially, why would you want someone else to do your job as a parent?
Anonymous wrote:NP. It doesn't matter if it's MY daughter, YOUR daughter or Joe Schmo's daughter. Someone's children will be forced to listen to this nonsense, in FCPS and, increasingly, in schools across the country. I am concerned about all of it.
I don't care what YOU allow YOUR kids to hear, but what I allow MY kids to hear is none your damned business, so GFY right the Hell now, y'hear?
Anonymous wrote:
It concerns me that they weren't teaching this in middle school before. I pay the taxes and housing prices in Fairfax County so that my children will receive a well rounded education, which includes teaching Gender Identity.
I am very liberal socially, why would you want someone else to do your job as a parent?
Anonymous wrote:NP. It doesn't matter if it's MY daughter, YOUR daughter or Joe Schmo's daughter. Someone's children will be forced to listen to this nonsense, in FCPS and, increasingly, in schools across the country. I am concerned about all of it.
I don't care what YOU allow YOUR kids to hear, but what I allow MY kids to hear is none your damned business, so GFY right the Hell now, y'hear?
And 50 years ago, this was the exact same comment people were making about equal rights for blacks.
YOU, MY FRIEND, HAVE DEMONSTRATED A COMPLETE LACK OF SO CALLED CHRISTIAN VALUES!
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