Fairfax County School Board Votes to Teach 7th Graders about 'Gender Identy'

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

Really?? Then what else would you call it. Loony Bins, if you will excuse the term, are full of people who think they are something that they are not.

[Anonymous]

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

Your daughter won't even be there to hear the lesson. Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure she'd be mortified if she knew her mother was online writing rhapsodies about erect penises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

in your world there is no mental illness. Just quirks. And that's okay. There will always be people like yourself- those who claim to be Christian, but professing anti-Christian beliefs. My child has been thoroughly educated on this and to not accept someone calling him or herself as Christian as fact that he/she actually is. Actions speak louder than words and always will. That said, I disagree that we don't have mental illness. I believe we do. And my expectation is that children, the most vulnerable among us, will not be taught untruths, which will cause them confusion and distress. If a schizophrenic person presents and insists upon the validity of the voices in his/her head, I would not accept my child being told the voices are real because a person "feels" they are. This is utter nonsense. Feelings don't trump biology. A male penis and scrotum and XY chromosomes are present in men. You're feelings that they don't is so goofy and weird, it's beyond ridiculous. My question is how did we ever get to this point. Very scary- the slippery slope we're treading on. Next kids will be taught that heterosexual sex is abnormal and that males who are aroused by the sight of the female species have a disorder. And a liberal person will say, well sure. Remember, everything is relative. There's nothing really normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

Your daughter won't even be there to hear the lesson. Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure she'd be mortified if she knew her mother was online writing rhapsodies about erect penises.

NP. It doesn't matter if it's MY daughter, YOUR daughter or Joe Schmo's daughter. Someone's children will be forced to listen to this nonsense, in FCPS and, increasingly, in schools across the country. I am concerned about all of it.

[Anonymous]

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

Your daughter won't even be there to hear the lesson. Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure she'd be mortified if she knew her mother was online writing rhapsodies about erect penises.

Again, strange reverse psychology. The drama is clearly from the weirdo with the penis traipsing around in heels saying he's a female. What a joke. The dramatic trans people are the problem here. And as far as erect penises, we both agree that's normal and natural. A mutilated pelvis from a man who's had his chopped off is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

Did you read the item? Obviously not.

Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

This. Any any psychiatrist willing to go on the record has supported that trans is mental illness. The LGBT machine has become so powerful that psychiatrists, psychologist and nurse practitioners are being bullied to keep his/her mouth shut. What a terrible precident. I agree that the trans kids will be the ones to suffer. They won't be treated properly and will be ostracized by other students who are upset and the weird attempt by the government to indoctrinate. It's going to get ugly.

[Anonymous]

Oh, right, because teaching children that their confusion means that they are abnormal and mentally ill (your words) is going to HELP them. Gotcha. I'm glad the public schools are ignoring nutjobs like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you assholes will teach your kids to bully their own teachers for teaching the curriculum?

I APPROVE. When your kid gets suspended for being a dick, mine won't have to see them anymore! Please, spread your plan!

I do not expect my kids to say anything. That is my job, as their parent.

My child will say that transgender is a mental disorder and that she's sorry the school system thinks it can indoctrinate kids with non-science based propaganda. This will be in response to any proclamation by the teacher that transgender is normal and should be accepted as such. Teachers come up empty handed when people ask them directly for their proof that transgender is normal and they're going to catch hell when they "go there". The science supports that a penis is, in fact, an appendage as strongly attached the to the male of the species as his arms and legs. You can say, I don't feel the penis is real all day long. And there it is, in it's full (and oftentimes hard- LOL!) glory. You can chop it as so many mentally ill men have, and guess what they have phantom penis sensations. The simple fact is you cannot get rid of the penis. A man is going to always be a man. And my daughter is going to acknowledge that very basic truth if the teacher is stupid enough to call on her in class. A public school system simply will not indoctinate and poison our kids. They won't stand for it themselves.

Your daughter won't even be there to hear the lesson. Stop being so dramatic. I'm sure she'd be mortified if she knew her mother was online writing rhapsodies about erect penises.

Again, strange reverse psychology. The drama is clearly from the weirdo with the penis traipsing around in heels saying he's a female. What a joke. The dramatic trans people are the problem here. And as far as erect penises, we both agree that's normal and natural. A mutilated pelvis from a man who's had his chopped off is not.

And lets not forget women who eagerly (?) cut off their breasts in order to make some lame attempt at convincing the world and themselves that they are men. Seriously, can you imagine what the millions of women worldwide who have traumatically lost their breasts to cancer must think of that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, right, because teaching children that their confusion means that they are abnormal and mentally ill (your words) is going to HELP them. Gotcha. I'm glad the public schools are ignoring nutjobs like you.

Honey, we ALL have abnormalities. Me, you, your precious snowflakes and everyone else walking the planet. It is the price we pay for having the glorious opportunity to live in this fallen world. Part of the problem, I think, is a reluctance now to call ANYTHING a problem. You're fat? No worries, you're really beautiful just as you are. And on and on.

Yes, gender confusion is an extreme abnormality (thankfully) that can lead to a serious mental illness, if it is not treated properly. And treating it properly does not mean telling little Jason that if he thinks he's really Jennifer, well, that's OK. And here's a cute skirt for you to wear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria


Notice that WebMD has put this entry under its "Mental Health Center." Gender dysphoria is referred to as a "diagnosis," with "treatment." It would not be so categorized if it were considered within the range of mental well-being.

This. Any any psychiatrist willing to go on the record has supported that trans is mental illness. The LGBT machine has become so powerful that psychiatrists, psychologist and nurse practitioners are being bullied to keep his/her mouth shut. What a terrible precident. I agree that the trans kids will be the ones to suffer. They won't be treated properly and will be ostracized by other students who are upset and the weird attempt by the government to indoctrinate. It's going to get ugly.

Don't forget that the plastic surgeons and drugmakers stand to make big money from trans. They are bullying the mental-health professionals, too.

[Anonymous]

I'm happy this is causing you so much anxiety. Really happy. I know it's wrong, but the idea that you are blowing your top over this is making me smile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we're still learning a lot about the brain as time goes on. There was once a time when left handed people were considered sorcerers and the people who believed that were sincere in that belief. There was a time when dyslexic kids were just believed to be dumb or to have behavioral issues that prevented them from reading well and learning and that belief was sincere as well.

I honestly have no idea whether feeling transgendered is in fact a mental "problem" of some sort or just an area of the brain we're still discovering. And neither does anyone here.

Until we know more, I have no problem teaching my child that there are people who identify this way and that they, like everyone else, deserve respect, tolerance, and compassion.

Signed,
A Liberal Christian

I doubt you're a liberal Christian. Liberal Troll is more accurate. However, I'll play ball. Certainly, medical science is inexact and we don't know everything. But, to rely on that and to question the very nature of knowledge so that you can support a clear abnormality is foolhardy and dangerous. Science is a basis of what it is can never reveal the truth of everything and yet we rely on it to make sense of our world. A penis is a hard thing to deny and yet it is the best evidence we have that the human being with one is a man. Science, as we have and know it, fully supports that assumption. All you've got is the shoddy and hallow argument of "we don't know" because you question the nature of epistomology. Good luck with that.

PP here. I really don't know why you would doubt my identity unless you don't believe there are such things as liberal Christians, which is just ill-informed. I'm a 50 year old mother and lifelong Presbyterian, fwiw. I believe you've missed my point entirely though if you can't get past "science, as we have an know it..." That was my point. There is still a lot we don't know. There are genetic quirks that happen in the womb from time to time (e.g. hermaphrodites). Is it rare? Yes. Is it something we don't fully understand? Yes. Am I willing to categorize it as a mental illness and something that we should teach our children is a mental illness? Absolutely not.

in your world there is no mental illness. Just quirks. And that's okay. There will always be people like yourself- those who claim to be Christian, but professing anti-Christian beliefs. My child has been thoroughly educated on this and to not accept someone calling him or herself as Christian as fact that he/she actually is. Actions speak louder than words and always will. That said, I disagree that we don't have mental illness. I believe we do. And my expectation is that children, the most vulnerable among us, will not be taught untruths, which will cause them confusion and distress. If a schizophrenic person presents and insists upon the validity of the voices in his/her head, I would not accept my child being told the voices are real because a person "feels" they are. This is utter nonsense. Feelings don't trump biology. A male penis and scrotum and XY chromosomes are present in men. You're feelings that they don't is so goofy and weird, it's beyond ridiculous. My question is how did we ever get to this point. Very scary- the slippery slope we're treading on. Next kids will be taught that heterosexual sex is abnormal and that males who are aroused by the sight of the female species have a disorder. And a liberal person will say, well sure. Remember, everything is relative. There's nothing really normal.

My goodness there's a lot of assumption and heresy here. I never said that there is no such thing as mental illness. Also, it makes me sad that you believe that all Christians need to believe exactly as you do to be Christian. That's such a sad and dangerous interpretation of religion. I know that comment will send you around the bend, but I feel it needs to be said.