Boy slapped my daughter's butt on the walk from school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And how, pray tell, does a middle school girl stand up for herself to a boy who has slapped her ass and run away?

Turn around, yell "Stop It!" or "Fuck Off!", and slap him across the face if she has the chance. A kick in the nuts might be warranted too.

I'm a guy.

She did yell at him.

So then what? She yelled at him, and she's outnumbered (and surprised, so not ready with a quick response). So now the boy should get away with it? Such ridiculous crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG! The best thing you can do is tell her the next time someone does that or TRIES to do that to turn around and slap the piss out of him.
And the next time she sees the kid tell him that she's going to report him to the police.
But don't really call the cops.
Do you know all the crap that goes on between middle schoolers? Teach her to stand up for herself in the moment.
Hell, my 4 yr old did that in pre-school, little boy never bothered her again. The teachers even watched her wack the crap out of that kid.

Nope. Hitting someone preemptively could be deemed assault and prosecuted in a court of law.

Especially in todays society. And we wonder why we have so many issues and why we cry rape over a smack on the butt.

If someone hits me I have a right to defend myself -- hitting someone on the ass is well, HITTING THEM. And if someone comes at me trying to hit me,swings at me I can also defend myself to prevent them from actually touching me.

The test is reasonabless and proportionality. By definition, a try is an unsuccessful attempt. Hitting someone following a try is very problematic and risky, as opposed to running away, if possible, and alerting the relevant authorities.

Please. If you find a judge who would punish a girl for hitting a guy going for her butt, i'll eat my hat. (And I've been a prosecutor for 10 years.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how, pray tell, does a middle school girl stand up for herself to a boy who has slapped her ass and run away?

Turn around, yell "Stop It!" or "Fuck Off!", and slap him across the face if she has the chance. A kick in the nuts might be warranted too.

I'm a guy.

She did yell at him.

So then what? She yelled at him, and she's outnumbered (and surprised, so not ready with a quick response). So now the boy should get away with it? Such ridiculous crap.

Get away with what? What consequence are you seeking for a 12 year old boy who grabbed her butt?

The most important thing from this is to help the girl stand up for herself and prevent the boy from doing it again. What is YOUR end game here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op, don't be so sure that your daughter and her friends haven't been up to their own inappropriate behavior with this boy and his friends.

I found it very suspect that she had no idea who any of the boys were, yet they go to her school.

Your daughter might not be telling the entire truth here.

Her middle school has almost 1,000 students in two grades. You may find it suspect, but that's your problem.

She was crying when she called to tell me. She is very upset, even though she reacted immediately and appropriately. I discussed it with her, how she felt about it, etc. I didn't ask for advice on how to deal with her. I'm confident in the discussions we've had today and prior.

I'd like to find a way to let his parents know. Will the principal contact them if it was off of school property?

I don't understand why everyone needs to rewrite the story to suit their own needs. The assumptions and accusations about my child and I are nuts. It says a lot more about you than it does about us.

No one is rewriting history. You never gave that information. Trust me, what you have given says a hell of a lot about you.

Nice! Blame the victim. Literally.
I feel like "Missoula" should be required reading for all of these idiots who are blaming OP and her daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! The best thing you can do is tell her the next time someone does that or TRIES to do that to turn around and slap the piss out of him.
And the next time she sees the kid tell him that she's going to report him to the police.
But don't really call the cops.
Do you know all the crap that goes on between middle schoolers? Teach her to stand up for herself in the moment.
Hell, my 4 yr old did that in pre-school, little boy never bothered her again. The teachers even watched her wack the crap out of that kid.

Nope. Hitting someone preemptively could be deemed assault and prosecuted in a court of law.

Especially in todays society. And we wonder why we have so many issues and why we cry rape over a smack on the butt.

If someone hits me I have a right to defend myself -- hitting someone on the ass is well, HITTING THEM. And if someone comes at me trying to hit me,swings at me I can also defend myself to prevent them from actually touching me.

The test is reasonabless and proportionality. By definition, a try is an unsuccessful attempt. Hitting someone following a try is very problematic and risky, as opposed to running away, if possible, and alerting the relevant authorities.

Please. If you find a judge who would punish a girl for hitting a guy going for her butt, i'll eat my hat. (And I've been a prosecutor for 10 years.)

The no tolerance policies of the school system are a much more severe system. Children have committed suicide after they were kicked out of everything because of a minor infraction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! The best thing you can do is tell her the next time someone does that or TRIES to do that to turn around and slap the piss out of him.
And the next time she sees the kid tell him that she's going to report him to the police.
But don't really call the cops.
Do you know all the crap that goes on between middle schoolers? Teach her to stand up for herself in the moment.
Hell, my 4 yr old did that in pre-school, little boy never bothered her again. The teachers even watched her wack the crap out of that kid.

Nope. Hitting someone preemptively could be deemed assault and prosecuted in a court of law.

Especially in todays society. And we wonder why we have so many issues and why we cry rape over a smack on the butt.

If someone hits me I have a right to defend myself -- hitting someone on the ass is well, HITTING THEM. And if someone comes at me trying to hit me,swings at me I can also defend myself to prevent them from actually touching me.

The test is reasonabless and proportionality. By definition, a try is an unsuccessful attempt. Hitting someone following a try is very problematic and risky, as opposed to running away, if possible, and alerting the relevant authorities.

Please. If you find a judge who would punish a girl for hitting a guy going for her butt, i'll eat my hat. (And I've been a prosecutor for 10 years.)

Yes, to deflect the attempted assault would be fine. But to then turn around and pummel the person who made the attempt would be a real concern. There could be civil liability for that. Criminal, too, but most reasonable prosecutors would, one hopes, reasonably exercise their discretion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how, pray tell, does a middle school girl stand up for herself to a boy who has slapped her ass and run away?

Turn around, yell "Stop It!" or "Fuck Off!", and slap him across the face if she has the chance. A kick in the nuts might be warranted too.

I'm a guy.

She did yell at him.

So then what? She yelled at him, and she's outnumbered (and surprised, so not ready with a quick response). So now the boy should get away with it? Such ridiculous crap.

Get away with what? What consequence are you seeking for a 12 year old boy who grabbed her butt?

The most important thing from this is to help the girl stand up for herself and prevent the boy from doing it again. What is YOUR end game here?

"End game"? I would like the kid to be seriously punished. Suspended. Kicked off his sports team for some period of time (if applicable). Detention for a while. Things like that. Would depend on whether this was the first time he did something like this or not. I'd like someone with authority (principal maybe) to sit him down and tell him he can't do that and if he were an adult it is a crime called "assault" that could be prosecuted. And that if they ever hear of him treating another girl in a degrading manner, he will be punished even more severely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how, pray tell, does a middle school girl stand up for herself to a boy who has slapped her ass and run away?

Turn around, yell "Stop It!" or "Fuck Off!", and slap him across the face if she has the chance. A kick in the nuts might be warranted too.

I'm a guy.

She did yell at him.

So then what? She yelled at him, and she's outnumbered (and surprised, so not ready with a quick response). So now the boy should get away with it? Such ridiculous crap.

Get away with what? What consequence are you seeking for a 12 year old boy who grabbed her butt?

The most important thing from this is to help the girl stand up for herself and prevent the boy from doing it again. What is YOUR end game here?

She did stand up for herself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! The best thing you can do is tell her the next time someone does that or TRIES to do that to turn around and slap the piss out of him.
And the next time she sees the kid tell him that she's going to report him to the police.
But don't really call the cops.
Do you know all the crap that goes on between middle schoolers? Teach her to stand up for herself in the moment.
Hell, my 4 yr old did that in pre-school, little boy never bothered her again. The teachers even watched her wack the crap out of that kid.

Nope. Hitting someone preemptively could be deemed assault and prosecuted in a court of law.

Especially in todays society. And we wonder why we have so many issues and why we cry rape over a smack on the butt.

If someone hits me I have a right to defend myself -- hitting someone on the ass is well, HITTING THEM. And if someone comes at me trying to hit me,swings at me I can also defend myself to prevent them from actually touching me.

The test is reasonabless and proportionality. By definition, a try is an unsuccessful attempt. Hitting someone following a try is very problematic and risky, as opposed to running away, if possible, and alerting the relevant authorities.

Please. If you find a judge who would punish a girl for hitting a guy going for her butt, i'll eat my hat. (And I've been a prosecutor for 10 years.)

The no tolerance policies of the school system are a much more severe system. Children have committed suicide after they were kicked out of everything because of a minor infraction.

Children have committed suicide as the result of sexual assault and bullying as well. But go on, brush that under the rug.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You women are nuts. You blow little shit out of proportion and then wonder why people aren't outraged when really bad stuff happens. It's like the little boy who cried wolf or chicken little. Do yourselves, your daughters and all women a favor and get a grip.

So you're entitled to play grabass with 12 year old girls? NOPE. Sorry, the world has changed. We're not here for your amusement anymore. F off.

As a heterosexual female I am not inclined to play grab ass with any other females no matter what the age. Neither am I inclined to "fuck off." There needs to be a few of us on this thread who aren't lunatics looking to paint young boys as mad rapusts and young girls as helpless.

[Anonymous]

Yes..with zero tolerance laws in schools, treating all of this with a iron clad fist will result in EVERY child..not just this boy, being punished for the most minor infractions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG! The best thing you can do is tell her the next time someone does that or TRIES to do that to turn around and slap the piss out of him.
And the next time she sees the kid tell him that she's going to report him to the police.
But don't really call the cops.
Do you know all the crap that goes on between middle schoolers? Teach her to stand up for herself in the moment.
Hell, my 4 yr old did that in pre-school, little boy never bothered her again. The teachers even watched her wack the crap out of that kid.

Nope. Hitting someone preemptively could be deemed assault and prosecuted in a court of law.

Especially in todays society. And we wonder why we have so many issues and why we cry rape over a smack on the butt.

If someone hits me I have a right to defend myself -- hitting someone on the ass is well, HITTING THEM. And if someone comes at me trying to hit me,swings at me I can also defend myself to prevent them from actually touching me.

The test is reasonabless and proportionality. By definition, a try is an unsuccessful attempt. Hitting someone following a try is very problematic and risky, as opposed to running away, if possible, and alerting the relevant authorities.

Please. If you find a judge who would punish a girl for hitting a guy going for her butt, i'll eat my hat. (And I've been a prosecutor for 10 years.)

The no tolerance policies of the school system are a much more severe system. Children have committed suicide after they were kicked out of everything because of a minor infraction.

Children have committed suicide as the result of sexual assault and bullying as well. But go on, brush that under the rug.

Im OP and was explaining why hitting back isn't great advice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And how, pray tell, does a middle school girl stand up for herself to a boy who has slapped her ass and run away?

Turn around, yell "Stop It!" or "Fuck Off!", and slap him across the face if she has the chance. A kick in the nuts might be warranted too.

I'm a guy.

She did yell at him.

So then what? She yelled at him, and she's outnumbered (and surprised, so not ready with a quick response). So now the boy should get away with it? Such ridiculous crap.

. Wow. The facts sure are changing as this thread has gone on...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, don't be so sure that your daughter and her friends haven't been up to their own inappropriate behavior with this boy and his friends.

I found it very suspect that she had no idea who any of the boys were, yet they go to her school.

Your daughter might not be telling the entire truth here.

Her middle school has almost 1,000 students in two grades. You may find it suspect, but that's your problem.

She was crying when she called to tell me. She is very upset, even though she reacted immediately and appropriately. I discussed it with her, how she felt about it, etc. I didn't ask for advice on how to deal with her. I'm confident in the discussions we've had today and prior.

I'd like to find a way to let his parents know. Will the principal contact them if it was off of school property?

I don't understand why everyone needs to rewrite the story to suit their own needs. The assumptions and accusations about my child and I are nuts. It says a lot more about you than it does about us.

No one is rewriting history. You never gave that information. Trust me, what you have given says a hell of a lot about you.

Nice! Blame the victim. Literally.
I feel like "Missoula" should be required reading for all of these idiots who are blaming OP and her daughter.

Again, there are degrees of punishment. The OP was saying she wanted to go to the police. This is a learning opportunity for a 12 yr old boy, no harsher consequences. You're part of the problem by overreacting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, don't be so sure that your daughter and her friends haven't been up to their own inappropriate behavior with this boy and his friends.

I found it very suspect that she had no idea who any of the boys were, yet they go to her school.

Your daughter might not be telling the entire truth here.

Her middle school has almost 1,000 students in two grades. You may find it suspect, but that's your problem.

She was crying when she called to tell me. She is very upset, even though she reacted immediately and appropriately. I discussed it with her, how she felt about it, etc. I didn't ask for advice on how to deal with her. I'm confident in the discussions we've had today and prior.

I'd like to find a way to let his parents know. Will the principal contact them if it was off of school property?

I don't understand why everyone needs to rewrite the story to suit their own needs. The assumptions and accusations about my child and I are nuts. It says a lot more about you than it does about us.

No one is rewriting history. You never gave that information. Trust me, what you have given says a hell of a lot about you.

Nice! Blame the victim. Literally.
I feel like "Missoula" should be required reading for all of these idiots who are blaming OP and her daughter.

Again, there are degrees of punishment. The OP was saying she wanted to go to the police. This is a learning opportunity for a 12 yr old boy, no harsher consequences. You're part of the problem by overreacting.

How am I overreacting? I think that people have generally UNDERREACTED to sexual assault against girls. The reverse hasn't traditionally been a problem, now has it? I wouldn't go to the police (unless it happened again, in which case I might). But I damn sure would go to the principal and expect real punishment.