not so subtle weight comments from DH ruining my vacation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/obesity-research-confirms-long-term-weight-loss-almost-impossible-1.2663585

"So if most scientists know that we can't eat ourselves thin, that the lost weight will ultimately bounce back, why don't they say so?

Tim Caulfield says his fellow obesity academics tend to tiptoe around the truth. "You go to these meetings and you talk to researchers, you get a sense there is almost a political correctness around it, that we don't want this message to get out there," he said.

"You'll be in a room with very knowledgeable individuals, and everyone in the room will know what the data says and still the message doesn't seem to get out."

In part, that's because it's such a harsh message. "You have to be careful about the stigmatizing nature of that kind of image," Caulfield says. "That's one of the reasons why this myth of weight loss lives on."

Health experts are also afraid people will abandon all efforts to exercise and eat a nutritious diet — behaviour that is important for health and longevity — even if it doesn't result in much weight loss.

Traci Mann says the emphasis should be on measuring health, not weight. "You should still eat right, you should still exercise, doing healthy stuff is still healthy," she said. "It just doesn't make you thin."

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE YOU THIN.

Once a person becomes fat, it is almost impossible to change and become (and stay) thin again. It IS possible to be healthy and fat, and it is important for fat people to eat healthily and exercise regularly.

Amen

[Anonymous]

There are two aspects to this topic: first what the OP raised in terms of how her husband makes snide comments about her weight. The second is the misinformation by those who seek to rationalize their obesity and being fat.

The thrust of what these people are saying is that people who are overweight are helpless and almost destined to that condition. This is total nonsense unless you have a medical condition which few people do that prevents weight loss. But for the vast majority of people it is plain and simple overeating and you can argue this till kingdom come but it does not change that reality. People don't need to gorge themselves on thousands of calories of food to feel satiated or to function effectively. Neither does one need to starve. The problem is that people equate not eating until their buttons pop as being some sort of deprivation.

Keeping my weight under control is not easy for me: I have to watch what I eat, limit what I eat and exercise but I don't deprive myself of a single type of food. I don't follow any fad diets because I cannot sustain them. I just eat less - and, guess what, I am not hungry at the end of it. But it took me a while to reach this point. I used to consume most of a medium pizza laden with cheese and meat and at the end of it felt full. I just finished my lunch and all I had was a single slice of a medium pizza ....... and I am not hungry. I am not presenting myself as any kind of a model other than to say it can be done. I have lost the best part of 60 pounds from my peak. I am not thin but I am not fat either by any stretch. I don't strive to lose more weight - if it happens that is fine.

We hear this constant strain about being content with your body even if you are fat. Seriously, few people really are happy with it even if they claim they are. It does not mean one needs to be a size 4 to achieve nirvana but being a size 14 is not it either. You can do something about it for your own self-esteem, your health, your outlook on life, your social acceptance, etc. Or you can pretend that it does not matter and you are fine being obese. Most people are not fine with it and the very protestations on this thread by those who offer rationalizations about being fat are evidence of it.

Where I do agree with one of the PPs' is that part of the problem is that once you become fat and then lose the weight, it becomes a real struggle not to rebound to where you were or even greater. But it can be done and despite all the naysayers, there are too many success stories that confirm this.

This is not a new phenomenon. It has basically occurred over several decades and is affecting not only the US - where it is obviously a serious problem - but also other countries including developing nations.

http://www.livescience.com/35448-global-obesity-nearly-doubles-in-30-years-study-finds.html

[Anonymous]

Anyone looking to read more into the research side of things could look at Dr. Sharma's site. He presents the facts and writes well.

http://www.drsharma.ca/

I added my advice to OP earlier.

[Anonymous]

I should probably add that Dr. Sharma somewhat focuses on preventing weight gain vs trying to lose.

[Anonymous]

What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

I was more polite about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Why the heck do you care so much? Thin does not necessarily mean a person is healthy or making good dietary choices or exercising regularly. Why is it so darned important to you that everyone weight the same amount and look the same? It's meaningless. You need to find a new hobby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Why the heck do you care so much? Thin does not necessarily mean a person is healthy or making good dietary choices or exercising regularly. Why is it so darned important to you that everyone weight the same amount and look the same? It's meaningless. You need to find a new hobby.

If they made the right dietary choices, did not overeat and exercised, they would not be fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Why the heck do you care so much? Thin does not necessarily mean a person is healthy or making good dietary choices or exercising regularly. Why is it so darned important to you that everyone weight the same amount and look the same? It's meaningless. You need to find a new hobby.

If they made the right dietary choices, did not overeat and exercised, they would not be fat.

Not PP, but you did not say why you care so much. Maybe people wouldn't feel compelled to offer "excuses" if people would mind their own business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Why the heck do you care so much? Thin does not necessarily mean a person is healthy or making good dietary choices or exercising regularly. Why is it so darned important to you that everyone weight the same amount and look the same? It's meaningless. You need to find a new hobby.

If they made the right dietary choices, did not overeat and exercised, they would not be fat.

Not PP, but you did not say why you care so much. Maybe people wouldn't feel compelled to offer "excuses" if people would mind their own business.

I don't but when the OP is about a vacation being ruined because of her husband making comments about her weight, it does open the door to addressing the basic issue. Of course, one can also just pretend that it is an insensitive husband who should just love his wife no matter how obese she is, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Why the heck do you care so much? Thin does not necessarily mean a person is healthy or making good dietary choices or exercising regularly. Why is it so darned important to you that everyone weight the same amount and look the same? It's meaningless. You need to find a new hobby.

If they made the right dietary choices, did not overeat and exercised, they would not be fat.

Not PP, but you did not say why you care so much. Maybe people wouldn't feel compelled to offer "excuses" if people would mind their own business.

I don't but when the OP is about a vacation being ruined because of her husband making comments about her weight, it does open the door to addressing the basic issue. Of course, one can also just pretend that it is an insensitive husband who should just love his wife no matter how obese she is, etc.

Or maybe an insensitive and stupid husband who should know that bitching about your wife's weight on vacation is just about the worst way to get her behavior to change.

[Anonymous]

^^Remember we have heard only one side of the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are two aspects to this topic: first what the OP raised in terms of how her husband makes snide comments about her weight. The second is the misinformation by those who seek to rationalize their obesity and being fat.

The thrust of what these people are saying is that people who are overweight are helpless and almost destined to that condition. This is total nonsense unless you have a medical condition which few people do that prevents weight loss. But for the vast majority of people it is plain and simple overeating and you can argue this till kingdom come but it does not change that reality. People don't need to gorge themselves on thousands of calories of food to feel satiated or to function effectively. Neither does one need to starve. The problem is that people equate not eating until their buttons pop as being some sort of deprivation.

Keeping my weight under control is not easy for me: I have to watch what I eat, limit what I eat and exercise but I don't deprive myself of a single type of food. I don't follow any fad diets because I cannot sustain them. I just eat less - and, guess what, I am not hungry at the end of it. But it took me a while to reach this point. I used to consume most of a medium pizza laden with cheese and meat and at the end of it felt full. I just finished my lunch and all I had was a single slice of a medium pizza ....... and I am not hungry. I am not presenting myself as any kind of a model other than to say it can be done. I have lost the best part of 60 pounds from my peak. I am not thin but I am not fat either by any stretch. I don't strive to lose more weight - if it happens that is fine.

We hear this constant strain about being content with your body even if you are fat. Seriously, few people really are happy with it even if they claim they are. It does not mean one needs to be a size 4 to achieve nirvana but being a size 14 is not it either. You can do something about it for your own self-esteem, your health, your outlook on life, your social acceptance, etc. Or you can pretend that it does not matter and you are fine being obese. Most people are not fine with it and the very protestations on this thread by those who offer rationalizations about being fat are evidence of it.

Where I do agree with one of the PPs' is that part of the problem is that once you become fat and then lose the weight, it becomes a real struggle not to rebound to where you were or even greater. But it can be done and despite all the naysayers, there are too many success stories that confirm this.

This is not a new phenomenon. It has basically occurred over several decades and is affecting not only the US - where it is obviously a serious problem - but also other countries including developing nations.

http://www.livescience.com/35448-global-obesity-nearly-doubles-in-30-years-study-finds.html

I am fat. I do not rationalize it. I became fat in my 20's while eating for comfort and taking an SSRI. I gained 80 pounds in 2 years. Since then, I have gotten halfway decent therapy, discontinued using antidepressants, given up sugar, and taken up exercise. My diet is balanced and healthful, with very occasional treats (dessert once a week or so). I have not gained a pound in 20 years except for 20 pounds during pregnancy, after which I very quickly lost 30 pounds and then gained back 10 during nursing, bringing me back to the exact weight I have held for 20 years.

I have never in my life had a button pop, nor have I eaten until I felt overfull. I do not gorge myself. I exercise regularly and eat substantially less food and more healthful food than my husband, who exercises less and eats much more.

I am a scientist and have read countless studies on weight loss. There isn't a SINGLE large-scale peer reviewed study of weight loss programs, not one, that shows the majority of dieters keeping substantial amounts of weight off after 5 years. Not a single one. Not only do a majority not keep the weight off, but the numbers are closer to 95% who regain the weight.

Idiots like you who treat fat people like cartoon characters believe that this is because fat people are uncontrollably gorging themselves on Twinkies. That's simply not the case, and science backs it up. As the news report a few posts above attests, large scale studies of studies are very, very clear that long term weight loss is simply not attainable for most people without drastic bariatric surgery (which has many risks and associated negative health consequences). That is not "rationalizing" or defending or in any way "excusing" being fat. I don't need an excuse to exist in the world at my current size without apology. If I had a time machine, I would have adopted different coping mechanisms from abuse and trauma and would have sought therapy early in my 20's and avoided antidepressants entirely. I might have prevented some or most of my weight gain. But now that I am fat, I am going to be as healthy as I can be without using my weight on the scale as a barometer of that health, because that weight is unlikely to substantially go down regardless of my very healthy behaviors now.

Go ahead and have all the kudos in the world for being who you are and having the body that you have and behaving the way you do. But you know VERY little about weight loss science beyond your own anecdotes (and "success stories" are typically newsworthy and memorable because they are so rare, not because they are typical). Remember the little disclaimer at the bottom of almost every weight loss product and commercial? *Results not typical. That is backed up by the vast majority of peer-reviewed research on the topic.

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Anonymous wrote:What a bunch of excuse makers you fatties are.

Don't worry about the above poster, she's just trying to ruffle feathers. (I will admit, I did find this comment pretty humorous)

[Anonymous]

^^very well said, PP.