Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?

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Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

Is there really such a thing as "Democrats" and "Republicans" in Congress? Their titles should include the names of their mega-donating entities who are pulling their strings because we know these RINOs and DINOs don't give a damn about the regular folks they are elected to represent.

Only one party is tear-gassing local police and dragging people out of their homes without a warrant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

So basically Trump doesn’t need to follow the law but shame on Dems for not behaving like he does? How many things has he done that have been reversed as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court (which is esp crazy considering how many MAGA justices there are)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

Is there really such a thing as "Democrats" and "Republicans" in Congress? Their titles should include the names of their mega-donating entities who are pulling their strings because we know these RINOs and DINOs don't give a damn about the regular folks they are elected to represent.

Only one party is tear-gassing local police and dragging people out of their homes without a warrant.

I think we can all agree that nothing tops the Trump era GOP as far as awfulness in politics is concerned. I think we can all also agree that we have a very big problem with money and corruption within our two major political parties that we'll likely be dealing with long after Trump is dead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

Is there really such a thing as "Democrats" and "Republicans" in Congress? Their titles should include the names of their mega-donating entities who are pulling their strings because we know these RINOs and DINOs don't give a damn about the regular folks they are elected to represent.

Only one party is tear-gassing local police and dragging people out of their homes without a warrant.

I think we can all agree that nothing tops the Trump era GOP as far as awfulness in politics is concerned. I think we can all also agree that we have a very big problem with money and corruption within our two major political parties that we'll likely be dealing with long after Trump is dead.

Yes. Neither point negates the other -- they are both true.

Trying to walk into discussion of one of those points and derail it by yanking the thread in the direction of the other point is not arguing in good faith. It's not helpful. It just acts as a smoke screen that keeps everyone from feeling like there is nothing to act on. You can't focus on effective change when you are getting yoinked sideways.

PP up above who keeps doing this should start a new thread.

[Anonymous]

^^"keeps everyone feeling"

[Anonymous]

Only one party is colluding to vote against re-opening the government.

People will lose their jobs. Soldiers won’t be paid.

All of this can be avoided if Democrats vote their conscience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

Democrats are not changing anything in the CR ruling; they are talking about random additional special interest projects to try to force them through. Americans see right through it; it's like arguing that you shouldn't have to pay your restaurant bill because you disagree with their corporate policies, which don't provide free health insurance for the restaurant workers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

Democrats are not changing anything in the CR ruling; they are talking about random additional special interest projects to try to force them through. Americans see right through it; it's like arguing that you shouldn't have to pay your restaurant bill because you disagree with their corporate policies, which don't provide free health insurance for the restaurant workers.

MAGA buying into Fox “news”propaganda. Sad part for you is that you’re shooting yourself in your foot. You care more about “owning the libs” than your own well being.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

Democrats are not changing anything in the CR ruling; they are talking about random additional special interest projects to try to force them through. Americans see right through it; it's like arguing that you shouldn't have to pay your restaurant bill because you disagree with their corporate policies, which don't provide free health insurance for the restaurant workers.

MAGA buying into Fox “news”propaganda. Sad part for you is that you’re shooting yourself in your foot. You care more about “owning the libs” than your own well being.

what in the CR are democrats asking to change? nothing! they are briniging up random topics unrelated to the CR.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

Democrats are not changing anything in the CR ruling; they are talking about random additional special interest projects to try to force them through. Americans see right through it; it's like arguing that you shouldn't have to pay your restaurant bill because you disagree with their corporate policies, which don't provide free health insurance for the restaurant workers.

MAGA buying into Fox “news”propaganda. Sad part for you is that you’re shooting yourself in your foot. You care more about “owning the libs” than your own well being.

What do the Democrats want other than to ooen the government?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious. Does anybody really believe this? I think the reason being given is because Democrats want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Which is so blatantly untrue. what is true? Is that Democrats want to preserve and protect the healthcare for Americans.

Boy, are you gullible.

Why? What in that statement is untrue?

Still waiting on this answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

THIS government? The one taking away Medicaid, teargassing civilians and local police, dragging people out of cars and homes without a warrant, and -- critically -- refusing to release the Epstein files?

You think the right thing to do is to keep doing that without using the only possible means to change it?

Republicans could not shut down the government if they would actually run it as a government for the people, by the people, of the people.

These have nothing to do with continuing the prior agreed funding levels to reopen the government. Separate issues.

Except that they do.

WHy are the Democrats not signing it? What are they asking for to be added or changed?

Democrats are not changing anything in the CR ruling; they are talking about random additional special interest projects to try to force them through. Americans see right through it; it's like arguing that you shouldn't have to pay your restaurant bill because you disagree with their corporate policies, which don't provide free health insurance for the restaurant workers.

What exactly are the "random additional special interest projects?"