Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans shut the government down because they don't want the Epstein files released.

Oh Schumer got the memo. Finally!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:House and Senate Republicans had the entire time from Jan 3rd 2025 to September 30th to govern like responsible adults and pass appropriations bills.

THEY. DID. NOT. DO. THEIR. JOBS.

And worse yet, they took the entire month of August off despite knowing a September deadline was coming.

Total failure of Republicans in charge.

Stop voting Republican. They can't govern.

CRs are lazy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
PP, I think you missed the thread. Do you know how to click on the post to expand the full thread?

A prior poster was discussing EMTALA, which guarantees medical stabilization at ERs regardless of insurance. (This is what you experienced, and it is the current law of the land.)

Another poster noted that Trump was essentially trying to revoke EMTALA, so that immigrants could be denied any medical care in the US, including at ERs.

My post was in response to that. If we get rid of EMTALA, how would that, play out, especially as true emergencies are often chaos?

How do YOU think it would play out if those protections were not there for you and your family?

I’m the poster I think you’re addressing (i.e., the one who said I didn’t have a side and grew up with my often uninsured parents sometimes needing care at the ER). You’re right that u missed the EMTALA discussion, but is it really correct that trump is trying to do EMTALA? EMTALA was, as I understand it, an unfunded mandate; I don’t think it have funding to hospitals or anything like that. Guess I don’t see how it’s germane to this conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PP, I think you missed the thread. Do you know how to click on the post to expand the full thread?

A prior poster was discussing EMTALA, which guarantees medical stabilization at ERs regardless of insurance. (This is what you experienced, and it is the current law of the land.)

Another poster noted that Trump was essentially trying to revoke EMTALA, so that immigrants could be denied any medical care in the US, including at ERs.

My post was in response to that. If we get rid of EMTALA, how would that, play out, especially as true emergencies are often chaos?

How do YOU think it would play out if those protections were not there for you and your family?

I’m the poster I think you’re addressing (i.e., the one who said I didn’t have a side and grew up with my often uninsured parents sometimes needing care at the ER). You’re right that u missed the EMTALA discussion, but is it really correct that trump is trying to do EMTALA? EMTALA was, as I understand it, an unfunded mandate; I don’t think it have funding to hospitals or anything like that. Guess I don’t see how it’s germane to this conversation.

DP... The point of EMTALA is that when someone shows up with a medical emergency, you treat them. You don't do a Soviet-style "you vill show me your papers" because that slows things down and costs people lives. Treat those who need it first, and if later it turns out they can't pay the bill, reimburse the ER.

This reminds me of something that happened to me before EMTALA - I hurt my hand badly and had a couple of broken bones, the hand swelled up like a balloon and I was in a lot of pain. I went to the ER and they took care of me. I also gave them my info at the time but due to some snafu in hospital billing they didn't process it through my insurance, and I also never got a bill. Maybe because I had a hard time filling out the paperwork legibly because I had this big swollen painful balloon hand full of broken bones. Instead, several months later I had a collections agency coming after me. It took a bit of sorting out to resolve. I'm happy to have paid and to have insurance to cover it but by the same token I'm glad they took care of my hand. But real life is messy and doctors and medical staff should be allowed to focus on emergencies as their priority and not be hassling people for paperwork as their priority. Other countries don't operate that way, and neither should we. I'm thankful for EMTALA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PP, I think you missed the thread. Do you know how to click on the post to expand the full thread?

A prior poster was discussing EMTALA, which guarantees medical stabilization at ERs regardless of insurance. (This is what you experienced, and it is the current law of the land.)

Another poster noted that Trump was essentially trying to revoke EMTALA, so that immigrants could be denied any medical care in the US, including at ERs.

My post was in response to that. If we get rid of EMTALA, how would that, play out, especially as true emergencies are often chaos?

How do YOU think it would play out if those protections were not there for you and your family?

I’m the poster I think you’re addressing (i.e., the one who said I didn’t have a side and grew up with my often uninsured parents sometimes needing care at the ER). You’re right that u missed the EMTALA discussion, but is it really correct that trump is trying to do EMTALA? EMTALA was, as I understand it, an unfunded mandate; I don’t think it have funding to hospitals or anything like that. Guess I don’t see how it’s germane to this conversation.

This might be a case of needing to review the conversation.

Trump cannot require or even encourage Emergency Departments from providing care to anyone -- including "illegal immigrants" -- without revoking EMTALA. Right before you appeared to enter the conversation, we were discussing that he wanted to make sure these people in particular could be turned away from ERs.

So, please review the conversation.

[Anonymous]

^^"to keep from providing care"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am curious. Does anybody really believe this? I think the reason being given is because Democrats want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Which is so blatantly untrue. what is true? Is that Democrats want to preserve and protect the healthcare for Americans.

Boy, are you gullible.

[Anonymous]

No. Republicans own all three branches of the government- they have the White House, they have Congress, they have the Supreme Court.

The government is shut down because the Republicans are TOO INCOMPETENT to be able to use their majorities to pass the legislation needed to keep it open.

[Anonymous]

The problem with MAGA is that it is SO EASY to fact check what Dems are asking for. They ARE NOT asking for free health care for @illegal aliens”. The ER mandate is for all people who enter an ER. Good lord, that is just humane and was mandated by Reagan btw. We are trying to protect all AMERICANS, including you MAGA, and those here legally, from their health care premiums skyrocketing. For the millionth time, Trump and his cronies DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU, only themselves and their wealthy billionaire friends, oh and hiding the Epstein files because their in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am curious. Does anybody really believe this? I think the reason being given is because Democrats want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Which is so blatantly untrue. what is true? Is that Democrats want to preserve and protect the healthcare for Americans.

Boy, are you gullible.

Why? What in that statement is untrue?

[Anonymous]

It is Trump’s fault. The CR is a convenient excuse. He doesn’t want the Epstein files released, the D about to be seated will be the last needed signature to do that, and he is willing to shut down the govt to achieve his goals.

[Anonymous]

This is 100% Schumer’s fault.

He is scared of AOC and her mob of radical progressives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is 100% Schumer’s fault.

He is scared of AOC and her mob of radical progressives.

You mean Schumer along with 99% of Congress are scared of the very few Congress members who aren't afraid to call out their corrupt GOP and Dem colleagues who are puppets to their mega-donors.

[Anonymous]

How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many Democrats have voted to open the government back up? How many voted against it? That’s the answer.

Is there really such a thing as "Democrats" and "Republicans" in Congress? Their titles should include the names of their mega-donating entities who are pulling their strings because we know these RINOs and DINOs don't give a damn about the regular folks they are elected to represent.