| I am curious. Does anybody really believe this? I think the reason being given is because Democrats want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Which is so blatantly untrue. what is true? Is that Democrats want to preserve and protect the healthcare for Americans. |
| The cult believes it. |
No one else. |
| It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats. |
| I am all for the Dems being bare-knuckled brawlers. They have been steam-rolled for years by the Rs (think McConnell and the Merrick Garland's stalled SC nomination, e.g.). I want them to throw sand in the gears of the Trump administration and their congressional lickspittles every chance they get. |
| MAGA flocking to this thread. But, the majority of Americans, per polling, place this squarely on the GOP/MAGA and Trump. |
| No one except the people being told that this is what they are supposed to believe in order to be "Patriots." |
| It’s pretty clear that Donald Trump is bad at his job. This shut down is on him. The accompanying temper tantrum is also on him. |
The GOP used their simple majority reconciliation vote on the OBBBA. What did you THINK would happen when their shit management skills brought us to a shutdown and they had already blown their whole wad a few months earlier on alienating everyone they would need to pass a CR? I mean seriously. |
| Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them. |
To don’t understand politics???? This needs to pass the House, it has. President needs to sign, he will. It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass! Republicans only control 53 seats. So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!! |
| Republicans control the 3 branches of government. They could have averted a shutdown if they had compromised on the CR to get Dems to vote for it. Writing a crappy CR and hope the Dems vote for it is not a way to govern. |
They should have done a better job getting Dems to vote for it. Also why aren’t they writing an appropriations BILL?! What’s up with the crappy CRs?! They should do their f**ing jobs and not go on vacation. |
Negotiations around Democratic priorities? Republicans took away the healthcare subsidies in the Big Ugly Bill but we believe that they are going to come to the table to negotiate what they took away? Why would Democrats believe them? Republicans should have thought about this when they wouldn't negotiate with Dems on the OBBBA. Why didn't they negotiate then? Now they need something. |
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Nope. Republicans control all three branches at this point.
It's so they won't be able to combine votes with Republicans to release the Epstein files. |