Overlee Crash & Burn

[Anonymous]

Our MCSL pool always does it at half time of the last home meet. Other pools we’ve been to do the same. Usually involves diving off the board or going down the slide after someone gives a background of their team involvement and where they are heading to college.

It’s nice, short and sweet. Having been through this home and away it barely registers to me other than it’s nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are pools that act out plays with costumes at the A meets? WTAF!?!?!

I’ve never seen a skit or “walk-in” and I’ve been involved with our NVSL team in Divisions 18-12 for 17 years. (The league used to have 18 divisions).

NVSL swimmer from the 80s and parent now. We’ve had walk-ins/skits for years - I remember them throwing dry ice into the pool as a kid. Skits/walk-ins not new.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OKM refused to recognize CB graduating seniors. This is the first time a team has refused to put competition aside to recognize the years of dedication graduating seniors have put into their respective team. Incredibly disappointed in the sportsmanship from OKM.

OKM didn’t refuse recognition of seniors they just requested the senior recognition portion take place after the last relay. Starting the meet with 30min of stories and honors isn’t fair for the visiting team and honestly isn’t fair for the actual senior swimmers before they have to race.

Most importantly the demonic themes (punisher face paint and banners everywhere), scary rabid bunny costume and full body gorilla costume in the skit with violent undertones 100% needs to stop, step up NVSL. CB-Do this at your Friday pep-rally if you like this weird stuff. Why make the visiting team go through this if you truly are all about the competition & sportsmanship. It actually discounts your swimming talent and CB parents should step up to change this culture for the better.

Side note, credit to CB (reps/parents) for honoring OKM seniors and giving flowers to them at the DJ table. Very unexpected and a nice display of sportsmanship after the 15-18 boys splash incident and before the stupid skit antics.

The OKM Osprey’s almost got you and (on behalf of many on the chat) boy it would have been sweet! See you at RC!

This is weird. The recognition is always at the beginning of the last home meet.

(Oops, originally wrote this in the wrong thread) - That is hardly the norm. I’ve never heard of, or experienced, honoring seniors at an A meet when not all seniors are there. We do ours at an intrasquad B meet because it would be impolite to the seniors who would not be attending an A meet and impolite to another team if we did it on an A or B meet.

[Anonymous]

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At the end of the relays is a ridiculous request from OKM. They clearly didn’t want to stay for the senior recognition.

And was the 30 min skit time before the meet start time? Did the meet start late because of the skits? Meets normally start at 9am, did the meet start later than 9am? A lot of the skits occur while the officials are getting setup, etc.

As a Chesterbrook parent, we usually do senior recognition at the end of meets. Also, skit time is just filling a small period of time <3 minutes before national anthem and meet start etc., otherwise empty time. The meet start was not delayed.

[Anonymous]

OKM did not request it to be at the end of the meet. That’s when CB always does it. OKM seniors were extremely grateful for the kindness offered by CB recognizing them at intermission. That was lovely. OKM does senior recognition at an end of season intrasquad meet, so it wasn’t even on our radar that it would be done Saturday. Otherwise, we would have brought something for their seniors too. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors and misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, it seems to me that OKM is just simply not used to D1 antics. All the neutral, non-bias comments on here actually recognize that this is simply the D1 culture. It may not be tame and easygoing, but welcome to Division 1, folks. This has been blown out of proportion. In a couple years if OKM is still strong in the division, they will adjust. Chesterbrook has always been intense, Overlee has as well. Tuckahoe has now in recent years adopted this intensity. The teams do it in different ways, but when you are a top dog in the top division, this is how it goes. It is not Division 12, or Division 7, or even Division 2. It's Division 1, and people are pretty set in the intensity and culture around summer swim in D1.

Everyone will be fine, take a breath and have some fun with it. Once you've been around it for a few years you know that it's all a good time and very competitive. Let the kids grow up and experience it, my God.

[Anonymous]

Skits? That's so odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, it seems to me that OKM is just simply not used to D1 antics. All the neutral, non-bias comments on here actually recognize that this is simply the D1 culture. It may not be tame and easygoing, but welcome to Division 1, folks. This has been blown out of proportion. In a couple years if OKM is still strong in the division, they will adjust. Chesterbrook has always been intense, Overlee has as well. Tuckahoe has now in recent years adopted this intensity. The teams do it in different ways, but when you are a top dog in the top division, this is how it goes. It is not Division 12, or Division 7, or even Division 2. It's Division 1, and people are pretty set in the intensity and culture around summer swim in D1.

Everyone will be fine, take a breath and have some fun with it. Once you've been around it for a few years you know that it's all a good time and very competitive. Let the kids grow up and experience it, my God.

Not in Div 1 (in btw divisions 2-6), but I could definitely see that if the kids/teams were to square off summer after summer against the usual suspects, intense rivalries would build as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OKM refused to recognize CB graduating seniors. This is the first time a team has refused to put competition aside to recognize the years of dedication graduating seniors have put into their respective team. Incredibly disappointed in the sportsmanship from OKM.

OKM didn’t refuse recognition of seniors they just requested the senior recognition portion take place after the last relay. Starting the meet with 30min of stories and honors isn’t fair for the visiting team and honestly isn’t fair for the actual senior swimmers before they have to race.

Most importantly the demonic themes (punisher face paint and banners everywhere), scary rabid bunny costume and full body gorilla costume in the skit with violent undertones 100% needs to stop, step up NVSL. CB-Do this at your Friday pep-rally if you like this weird stuff. Why make the visiting team go through this if you truly are all about the competition & sportsmanship. It actually discounts your swimming talent and CB parents should step up to change this culture for the better.

Side note, credit to CB (reps/parents) for honoring OKM seniors and giving flowers to them at the DJ table. Very unexpected and a nice display of sportsmanship after the 15-18 boys splash incident and before the stupid skit antics.

The OKM Osprey’s almost got you and (on behalf of many on the chat) boy it would have been sweet! See you at RC!

This is weird. The recognition is always at the beginning of the last home meet.

(Oops, originally wrote this in the wrong thread) - That is hardly the norm. I’ve never heard of, or experienced, honoring seniors at an A meet when not all seniors are there. We do ours at an intrasquad B meet because it would be impolite to the seniors who would not be attending an A meet and impolite to another team if we did it on an A or B meet.

There is no universal standard. How weird that you think everyone does things the way your pool does them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OKM refused to recognize CB graduating seniors. This is the first time a team has refused to put competition aside to recognize the years of dedication graduating seniors have put into their respective team. Incredibly disappointed in the sportsmanship from OKM.

OKM didn’t refuse recognition of seniors they just requested the senior recognition portion take place after the last relay. Starting the meet with 30min of stories and honors isn’t fair for the visiting team and honestly isn’t fair for the actual senior swimmers before they have to race.

Most importantly the demonic themes (punisher face paint and banners everywhere), scary rabid bunny costume and full body gorilla costume in the skit with violent undertones 100% needs to stop, step up NVSL. CB-Do this at your Friday pep-rally if you like this weird stuff. Why make the visiting team go through this if you truly are all about the competition & sportsmanship. It actually discounts your swimming talent and CB parents should step up to change this culture for the better.

Side note, credit to CB (reps/parents) for honoring OKM seniors and giving flowers to them at the DJ table. Very unexpected and a nice display of sportsmanship after the 15-18 boys splash incident and before the stupid skit antics.

The OKM Osprey’s almost got you and (on behalf of many on the chat) boy it would have been sweet! See you at RC!

This is weird. The recognition is always at the beginning of the last home meet.

(Oops, originally wrote this in the wrong thread) - That is hardly the norm. I’ve never heard of, or experienced, honoring seniors at an A meet when not all seniors are there. We do ours at an intrasquad B meet because it would be impolite to the seniors who would not be attending an A meet and impolite to another team if we did it on an A or B meet.

There is no universal standard. How weird that you think everyone does things the way your pool does them.

I think that’s actually the point PP made.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Skits? That's so odd.

Again, I'll echo other posters... Not every division is the same, things that are different do not have to be "odd". Isn't this what we teach our kids? What we are taught when we are young?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Skits? That's so odd.

I’m early 40s. We did skits for (as I remember it) most every NVSL meet I attended as a swimmer. Many involved killing the opponent’s mascot. The pre-meet skits and cheer was frequently far more fun, memorable, and entertaining than the meet itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skits? That's so odd.

I’m early 40s. We did skits for (as I remember it) most every NVSL meet I attended as a swimmer. Many involved killing the opponent’s mascot. The pre-meet skits and cheer was frequently far more fun, memorable, and entertaining than the meet itself.

Of course they were. That's back when you were the Chesterbrook Flippers (and briefly the Buccaneers) and in Division 3 and 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Skits? That's so odd.

I’m early 40s. We did skits for (as I remember it) most every NVSL meet I attended as a swimmer. Many involved killing the opponent’s mascot. The pre-meet skits and cheer was frequently far more fun, memorable, and entertaining than the meet itself.

Yup. Chesterbrook is the reason why the NVSL had to change the rules on sportsmanship to prohibit the killing of mascots.

[Anonymous]

As a former team in the Division, it's safe to state that D1 is and has always been full of intense antics by everyone involved: Swimmers, Coaches and Parents. Some meets were non-dramatic, others full of controversy (coaches and team reps attempting last minute non-skin suit ups past the ref in 12Us, parents screaming like drill sargeants at timers and accusing them of deliberately stopping watches late, swimmers celebrating in joy after making their opponents break down in tears, it is beyond absurd and my understanding on why any neighborood pool would want to rise to this level of 'competition.' 3 teams have lived for these antics for many years and 1 relatively newcomer wants to join their party badly. 1 has begged time and time again to be released into D2 to no avail. And then there's always the sacrificial lamb coming in at #6 who is like a fish out of water and asking themselve WTF have we gotten ourselves into. The remainder of the 96 teams want nothing to do with the D1 crap.