Overlee Crash & Burn

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


Just because Overlee wins everything all the time doesn't mean they are obnoxious about it. OKM has some good swimmers and put together a good team. Congratulations on a nice win.


Yeah, but how long can they keep it up? Is this just a good run with a couple families and then flame out and back to lower divisions?


I don’t think so. Look at the week 1 event rankings and there seems to be sufficient young talent at OKM. It helps that NCAP-Burke, Makos, STJ, Sea Devils, and Machine-Audrey Moore all have locations within 5-10 minutes of their pool. Also, and I may be wrong, but I think it’s been a quarter of a decade since a team other than T and CB has won against Overlee. Still, this post clearly was a joke and OP is laughing during his/her/their morning coffee.


That could be said for a dozen or more pools in the area. What makes this different in terms of long term?
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


And EXTREMELY obnoxious at all star meets where they camp out and take all the seating. I loved last year's IAS with only single event seating.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


And EXTREMELY obnoxious at all star meets where they camp out and take all the seating. I loved last year's IAS with only single event seating.


You are either 1) falling for the troll post, or 2) the troll.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


Just because Overlee wins everything all the time doesn't mean they are obnoxious about it. OKM has some good swimmers and put together a good team. Congratulations on a nice win.


Yeah, but how long can they keep it up? Is this just a good run with a couple families and then flame out and back to lower divisions?


I don’t think so. Look at the week 1 event rankings and there seems to be sufficient young talent at OKM. It helps that NCAP-Burke, Makos, STJ, Sea Devils, and Machine-Audrey Moore all have locations within 5-10 minutes of their pool. Also, and I may be wrong, but I think it’s been a quarter of a decade since a team other than T and CB has won against Overlee. Still, this post clearly was a joke and OP is laughing during his/her/their morning coffee.


That could be said for a dozen or more pools in the area. What makes this different in terms of long term?


OKM is not a neighborhood pool. It does not have a waitlist. It is located in an area where many military families move. It also has a winter swim/conditioning program, which helps non-club swimmers. We are at Makos, and at least 3-4 of the top swimmers on OKM swim at Makos. They have mentioned each of these reasons OKM has consistently built a good team. Still, sometimes it’s just luck (and certainly it helps when teams have a big family or two with strong swimmers, but — based on last names — I only see one big family at OKM). OKM’s boys are not super strong. While the girls were very fast yesterday, Overlee’s boys seemed to dominate several age groups. It looks like it was an exciting meet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


Overlee swimmers and parents have been gracious and good sports during our time in NVSL D1.


THIS. I dread the Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook meets every summer because the teams and families are so over the top obnoxious. Overlee is all in but in a good vibes kind of way. I am also pretty sure they won the D1 sportsmanship award last summer! No need to drag on them instead of being impressed with OKM.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


And EXTREMELY obnoxious at all star meets where they camp out and take all the seating. I loved last year's IAS with only single event seating.


You are either 1) falling for the troll post, or 2) the troll.


No, I was quite sincere. The rest of the NVSL tends to root against the "big 3" teams for reasons like that. I only interact with them twice a year, and both times they're all three annoying. So pulling for OKM to take them down a peg, absolutely.
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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


It has been a long long time since another team other than Chesterbrook or Tuckahoe has won a dual meet against Overlee though, right? Like 20-25 years? I would amend your sentence to “outside of Tuckahoe, Chesterbrook, or Overlee,” any of the other teams can beat each other. I think that’s why OKM winning was an accomplishment.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


Just because Overlee wins everything all the time doesn't mean they are obnoxious about it. OKM has some good swimmers and put together a good team. Congratulations on a nice win.


Yeah, but how long can they keep it up? Is this just a good run with a couple families and then flame out and back to lower divisions?


I don’t think so. Look at the week 1 event rankings and there seems to be sufficient young talent at OKM. It helps that NCAP-Burke, Makos, STJ, Sea Devils, and Machine-Audrey Moore all have locations within 5-10 minutes of their pool. Also, and I may be wrong, but I think it’s been a quarter of a decade since a team other than T and CB has won against Overlee. Still, this post clearly was a joke and OP is laughing during his/her/their morning coffee.


That could be said for a dozen or more pools in the area. What makes this different in terms of long term?


I just think that young swimmers who enjoy summer league look to the older swimmers and want to do year-round swimming. Having so many options means a team’s young swimmers can access club swimming at whatever commitment level they desire. Also, as people move into the area and land on one of these USA Swimming teams, they can easily access OKM because it is centrally located without a waitlist or an HOA requirement.
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Anonymous wrote:Although OP is probably a troll, I just checked the results and am shocked that Old Keeene Mill beat Overlee. So there may be some truth to the notion that Overlee is losing momentum and headed for D2.


No, please let DR go down instead! We have had fun in D1 for the past few years but we can’t keep up as a neighborhood-bounded pool. Tuckahoe was gracious about their total domination yesterday and it was appreciated but we want out .
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Anonymous wrote:Although OP is probably a troll, I just checked the results and am shocked that Old Keeene Mill beat Overlee. So there may be some truth to the notion that Overlee is losing momentum and headed for D2.


No, please let DR go down instead! We have had fun in D1 for the past few years but we can’t keep up as a neighborhood-bounded pool. Tuckahoe was gracious about their total domination yesterday and it was appreciated but we want out .


To be fair, Chesterbrook and Tuckahoe will dominate all four other teams in D1 this year. So unless Oakton, Crosspointe, or Langley goes undefeated, DR may be stuck.
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The Olympic champion on my block never swam for any of them and just stuck with the County club. Let your kid just enjoy swimming and see where it goes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


It has been a long long time since another team other than Chesterbrook or Tuckahoe has won a dual meet against Overlee though, right? Like 20-25 years? I would amend your sentence to “outside of Tuckahoe, Chesterbrook, or Overlee,” any of the other teams can beat each other. I think that’s why OKM winning was an accomplishment.


I didn’t realize that commenting that all the teams in D1 (and D2) would take way from OKM’s win…

ALL HAIL OKM!!!!

On their way to becoming the new Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook of attitude
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The Olympic champion on my block never swam for any of them and just stuck with the County club. Let your kid just enjoy swimming and see where it goes.


Completely agree with the second sentence but what the heck are you saying with the first other than bragging an Olympian lives on your block. Nobody is arguing you have to swim at the highest levels of the NVSL (or country club) to be great and certainly nobody is arguing that the NVSL division 1 teams have cornered the market on all great swimmers. The difference between the top and bottom divisions has always been depth of great swimmers and consistency, not lone examples of greatness.

It's just summer swim. Good for your Olympian for swimming country club (and whatever Club actually trained them).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why you didn’t just title the post Congratulations to OKM instead of trying to bash on Overlee which is one of the nicest D1 pools we swim against.

I don’t think that people outside of D1 understand that outside of Tuckahoe or Chesterbrook any of the other pools can beat each other on any given day. There are a ton of talented kids on all of them. So much depends on match ups, who is or isn’t there, and who wins those super close races…

Congratulations to OKM but I have no doubt that OLV will be just fine.


Overlee, Tuckahoe, and Chesterbrook are all quite obnoxious about always winning.


And EXTREMELY obnoxious at all star meets where they camp out and take all the seating. I loved last year's IAS with only single event seating.


^this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Olympic champion on my block never swam for any of them and just stuck with the County club. Let your kid just enjoy swimming and see where it goes.


Completely agree with the second sentence but what the heck are you saying with the first other than bragging an Olympian lives on your block. Nobody is arguing you have to swim at the highest levels of the NVSL (or country club) to be great and certainly nobody is arguing that the NVSL division 1 teams have cornered the market on all great swimmers. The difference between the top and bottom divisions has always been depth of great swimmers and consistency, not lone examples of greatness.

It's just summer swim. Good for your Olympian for swimming country club (and whatever Club actually trained them).

It’s the poster than loves to point out that Torri Huske stayed with AAC, completely ignoring what an outlier she has proven to be.
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