Self Check Out Thievery

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Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?


People are talking about situations where the item just does not scan. Not where it scans incorrectly. Most self checkouts have weighted baggage areas and will alert you if you put something in the baggage area that was not scanned, but they are of varying sensitivity and it depends what the item is.

I find this happens most often with plastic wrapped or bagged items where the bar code is printed on the plastic (as opposed to a sticker attached to the plastic). Sometimes the printing is off or sometimes there's a wrinkle or seam in the plastic that makes the item impossible to scan. The scanner won't need to be reset, it just won't acknowledge you're scanning something, making the temptation to just throw it in your bag and not pay very high, especially if there is no one in the vicinity who can come deal with it.
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Anonymous wrote:I never cheat at self checkout and I would think less of a friend or coworker that openly admitted to doing so. It makes me wonder what else they try to get away with when no one is watching.

That said, stores with self checkout have decided they’d rather take a hit from people stealing than pay more workers, so they get what they get.


All of this. I avoid self checkout though. I hate it. If I am forced to do it though, I definitely don’t steal. I’ve also accidentally scanned something twice and did not feel like waiting for someone to come fix it for me so I paid double for one item. I hate self checkout though. Really hate it.


Where are people forced to use self checkout?




Very often its the only open checkout and I need food.


So no one is forcing you. Just wait for regular checkout.


Learn to read, moron. Often self check out is the only option. There is no 'regular' checkout, dumbass.


That is very sad for you. You will need to learn to deal with disappointment, won’t you? Have you always had everything handed to you on a silver platter? Never had to fend for yourself? Boot straps are your friends in these situations. Adulting is hard but you can do it!!


Who are you patronizing? The guy who is gaming the system to his advantage with free food? You're the bootlicker too chicken shit to plant your own stake. I'd make you piss your pants in real life.


Now, now. It seems you some pretty big feelings about this. Throwing a tantrum does feel good but you will need to learn to deal with what the world throws at you without sulking or misbehaving or losing control of yourself. I have confidence you can grow up if you try!



Mommy-speak is so ick.

Seriously, gross.


Not PP, but this is satire right?


Nope. Not satire at all. The whole mommy/kindergarten-teacher tone is skin-crawlingly-creepy-AF.
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Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?


People are talking about situations where the item just does not scan. Not where it scans incorrectly. Most self checkouts have weighted baggage areas and will alert you if you put something in the baggage area that was not scanned, but they are of varying sensitivity and it depends what the item is.

I find this happens most often with plastic wrapped or bagged items where the bar code is printed on the plastic (as opposed to a sticker attached to the plastic). Sometimes the printing is off or sometimes there's a wrinkle or seam in the plastic that makes the item impossible to scan. The scanner won't need to be reset, it just won't acknowledge you're scanning something, making the temptation to just throw it in your bag and not pay very high, especially if there is no one in the vicinity who can come deal with it.


I check my UPC codes before I check out. Yes, really.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


You just don't get it. No one is stealing from the stores with regular check outs. People are taking things from stores that force their labor onto others without any compensation.


Right, because then your trashy ass would get caught


No, because this sort of stealing is a form of laziness, not greed. I have no reason to tell some low-dollar item from a grocery store. I have plenty of money and I'm not hurting for produce or crackers. But I don't want buying a tomato or some crackers to take 10 minutes and require me to go flag down some disinterested employee who will act like I'm a moron because the item won't scan correctly. I just want to pay for it and leave. When stores make it hard to pay for items, some people will say "screw it, I guess it's free."

But at a store like Trader Joe's where they only have human checkers and area also really good at staffing checkout appropriately for the customer volume, no one is trying to sneak those tomatoes past the checker. They are fine paying for the tomatoes.
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Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?


People are talking about situations where the item just does not scan. Not where it scans incorrectly. Most self checkouts have weighted baggage areas and will alert you if you put something in the baggage area that was not scanned, but they are of varying sensitivity and it depends what the item is.

I find this happens most often with plastic wrapped or bagged items where the bar code is printed on the plastic (as opposed to a sticker attached to the plastic). Sometimes the printing is off or sometimes there's a wrinkle or seam in the plastic that makes the item impossible to scan. The scanner won't need to be reset, it just won't acknowledge you're scanning something, making the temptation to just throw it in your bag and not pay very high, especially if there is no one in the vicinity who can come deal with it.


I check my UPC codes before I check out. Yes, really.


That's nice. I am never going to bother to do this and neither are most other people.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.


Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.


Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.


Wow I hope I do not know you! No morals at all
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Anonymous wrote:Don't take anything from Target. They have one of the most sophisticated facial recognition systems in retail. I used to date a head of AP for a local Target who showed me their AP office and systems.

They compile all instances of theft until you reach felony level ($1,000 in VA) and then they pounce.

You are banned (trespassed) from all Target stores after getting caught, and like I said, their facial recognition software will be able to nab you if you try to enter in the future, then they press a trespassing charge.


Total BS. You can't aggregate singular instances into a single felony. I don't doubt they want people to believe that but that isn't how the legal system works.


PP didn’t say you get charged with a felony, they said you’re banned from all Targets at that point.


DP and I don't believe this story because on at least two occasions I've forgotten to scan an item in my cart during self checkout only to discover it when I was loading my car, and on both occasions I brought the item back into the store. On one occasion I explained what had happened to the person at the self checkout (I wanted to jump the line to buy it rather than circle around to wait in a line 20 people deep to buy one item after I'd already checked out). She just waived me off and told me not to worry about it. On the other occasion I found an employee returning carts and told him what had happened and he said "do you still want it?" and I said nah, could he just take it back in for me, and he told me I should just take it.

Now, we're talking about two items that probably total less than $20 in value so if Target has this sophisticated system in place, I'm not worried I'm getting banned anytime soon. But I also think if Target had a system that advanced in place, they'd also bother to instruct employees not to facilitate or even encourage theft in situations like that.

But spreading a rumor that such a system exists is free!
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I think it’s stupid to steal because you think you should be paid for doing someone else’s job. Self checkout is far more efficient, and you don’t need someone to do your shopping or carry your bags to your car, makes zero sense to insist someone also ring it up. Personally I’m looking forward to the day where checkout is gone completely and it just automatically charges your card as you walk out the door.

That being said, I do totally steal things just for the thrill of it. I’m a bored middle aged mom with nothing going on besides kids screaming at me to get snacks. Seeing if I can get away with not scanning the toilet paper at the bottom of the cart is the one thrill I have left. I figure it’s better than having an affair.
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I work in the legal field, and yes, Target has a very sophisticated loss prevention system. They might not bother you for a low item loss the first time or two, but if you make it a habit, they will, and they will get you for all the previous thefts as well.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.


Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.


Yes, functionally, you can do whatever trashy illegal shit you want, if you lack morals. Well spotted.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

The stores are taking my labor without paying me for it. They are stealing from me. When I have a huge order I don’t want to scan and bag it myself in a tiny area where the machine yells at me and then freezes up when I have to shift things around to make more room. And then wait for someone to come fix it. Self checkout is fine for a few items but for big orders it is a huge hassle. So yes, I agree as a NP this has gotten out of hand.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

The stores are taking my labor without paying me for it. They are stealing from me. When I have a huge order I don’t want to scan and bag it myself in a tiny area where the machine yells at me and then freezes up when I have to shift things around to make more room. And then wait for someone to come fix it. Self checkout is fine for a few items but for big orders it is a huge hassle. So yes, I agree as a NP this has gotten out of hand.


I don’t understand how people like you function in society. You can handle literally nothing.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

The stores are taking my labor without paying me for it. They are stealing from me. When I have a huge order I don’t want to scan and bag it myself in a tiny area where the machine yells at me and then freezes up when I have to shift things around to make more room. And then wait for someone to come fix it. Self checkout is fine for a few items but for big orders it is a huge hassle. So yes, I agree as a NP this has gotten out of hand.


Yes, it’s a hassle sometimes.

Yes, you’re a thief.

Just like the people who steal items right off the shelves.
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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.


But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol


Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.


You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.


Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.


Wow I hope I do not know you! No morals at all


You know many, many people with this attitude about something or other. Whether it's taking an apple that didn't scan right at Giant without paying, or jaywalking, or downloading music or movies illegally. This is low level stuff and honestly, if someone does any of this stuff once in a while, who cares. There are also tons of people who will tell you all that stuff is immoral and wrong and then go exploit a bunch of tax loopholes and claim a rental property is their permanent residence in order to get their kid into a better school.

I am not going to fall all over myself over someone stealing plastic bags or entering organic produce as regular produce at the checkout. No one is perfect. Not even you!
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