Spouse Lets DD Ghost My Mother

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If wife is purposely taking DD, but not DS, on errands during these times to avoid the call, then it seems obvious wife is running interference for DD who, for whatever reason, DOES NOT WANT these weekly forced conversations. i.e. your wife is being a bad DIL but a good mom.

You sound controlling. I suspect your mother is also controlling, hence the rigid scheduled calls. I’ll bet your DD can see right through that and resents it. Good for her.

Good point. If she actively picks up and leaves with only 1/2 kids there is likely a reason specific to DD as to why. Maybe op could spend some time with his daughter talking about her feelings instead of just being “irrationally angry” and yelling at her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your spouse is zero percent responsible for you and your DD calling your mother.

This forever.

OP, it's your fscking mom. If you want to force your kid to engage her, YOU do that labor. Damn.

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If OP wants these calls to happen, OP needs to do the work. It’s not his wife's responsibility to foster a relationship between his kid and his mother.

OP is making it happen. His c*nt of a wife is actively sabotaging it.

OP is "making it happen" by making sure the housework's done and the groceries are bought before the time he demands everyone show up for his mom on Sunday? No, he's not. OP is, at best, being a whiny bag of petulant betch, complaining that the person doing the household tasks is "actively sabotaging" him because she won't force his kid to make/take a phone call.

OP isn't really doing shit, probably because he ain't shit. This has "spoiled mama's boy" written all over it.

OMG I'm crying from laughing. That's some grade A nonsense projecting!!!! BRAVA

You see him lifting a finger in all of this? Point to the part in the OP where he did anything but whine and complain.

I'll wait.

Oh, honey.....go deal with your own shit, please. It doesn't belong here.

And now you want to police what can't/can't happen here? Your sockpuppeting is pretty obvs, OP. The control issues REEK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

People have to be good humans. Then, people want to visit you.

It's not your spouse's job to make your kid talk to your mom. If you are going to force someone to do something, don't pawn that off on your wife.

You can't scare me with the assisted living. I've been supporting and visiting family members in those places longer than you have. Currently, the parent in AL has the depends, the bed pads that keep poop off the sheets, and so on because of me. I buy all that.

So take your scare tactics somewhere else. They won't work with me. I've sat with many a dying relative until the bitter end. Never minded doing it for the nice ones.

BS!!!!!! No way you do any of that and so adamantly oppose a 5 min phone call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If wife is purposely taking DD, but not DS, on errands during these times to avoid the call, then it seems obvious wife is running interference for DD who, for whatever reason, DOES NOT WANT these weekly forced conversations. i.e. your wife is being a bad DIL but a good mom.

You sound controlling. I suspect your mother is also controlling, hence the rigid scheduled calls. I’ll bet your DD can see right through that and resents it. Good for her.

Good point. If she actively picks up and leaves with only 1/2 kids there is likely a reason specific to DD as to why. Maybe op could spend some time with his daughter talking about her feelings instead of just being “irrationally angry” and yelling at her.

Sadly, OP probably doesn't have those skills. Where would he have gotten them from? His mama?

[Anonymous]

I think the intentionality of it is an issue.

Same as if your wife said I am taking the kids to my parents on Sunday for noon for lunch and so at 11 you took DS and went out and intentionally missed the lunch.

I am not sure how old your DD is but one thing we started doing as the kids got older was playing games online. There are lots of games that can be played by multiple people online in differnet locations and it breaks up the boredom / awkwardness of just sitting in front of the screen and having to come up with things to talk about.

I value family and so I would expect the kids to maintain some kind of connection. And I would be angry too if my husband intentionally sabotaged that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

Actually, parents and grandparents who take the time to foster strong, close, reciprocal relationships don't have this problem. It's the ones who were selfish and checked out who do. Then they wake up one day in old age and can't figure out why no one wants to visit them.

Door swings both ways. Sounds like grandma is trying very hard and DD is being a brat fully supported by her mom.

Why is it bratty to not want to talk to someone? Why would you even want a forced conversation?

Normalize letting kids say no. Agency is important.

Normilize raising kind, polite kids who understand that grandparents love them and are important. FFS

No. Trump is a grandparent, and he is incapable of love. So, no, I don't buy that a grandma is loving just because she's 82.

More likely, OP is enmeshed and controlling and that's why he wants to force these weekly convos. He is too busy doing what his momma tells him to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your spouse is zero percent responsible for you and your DD calling your mother.

This forever.

OP, it's your fscking mom. If you want to force your kid to engage her, YOU do that labor. Damn.

100%

If OP wants these calls to happen, OP needs to do the work. It’s not his wife's responsibility to foster a relationship between his kid and his mother.

OP is making it happen. His c*nt of a wife is actively sabotaging it.

OP is "making it happen" by making sure the housework's done and the groceries are bought before the time he demands everyone show up for his mom on Sunday? No, he's not. OP is, at best, being a whiny bag of petulant betch, complaining that the person doing the household tasks is "actively sabotaging" him because she won't force his kid to make/take a phone call.

OP isn't really doing shit, probably because he ain't shit. This has "spoiled mama's boy" written all over it.

OMG I'm crying from laughing. That's some grade A nonsense projecting!!!! BRAVA

You see him lifting a finger in all of this? Point to the part in the OP where he did anything but whine and complain.

I'll wait.

Oh, honey.....go deal with your own shit, please. It doesn't belong here.

And now you want to police what can't/can't happen here? Your sockpuppeting is pretty obvs, OP. The control issues REEK.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA please stop. I'm going to piss my pants. This is textbook DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

People have to be good humans. Then, people want to visit you.

It's not your spouse's job to make your kid talk to your mom. If you are going to force someone to do something, don't pawn that off on your wife.

You can't scare me with the assisted living. I've been supporting and visiting family members in those places longer than you have. Currently, the parent in AL has the depends, the bed pads that keep poop off the sheets, and so on because of me. I buy all that.

So take your scare tactics somewhere else. They won't work with me. I've sat with many a dying relative until the bitter end. Never minded doing it for the nice ones.

BS!!!!!! No way you do any of that and so adamantly oppose a 5 min phone call.

Learn that "it's just..." is a manipulation tactic. "it's just a 5 min phone call" No, it's a call the kid said she didn't want to make.

Instead of steamrolling her, try to understand why. Whining that "it's just..." is a weak person's trick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

Actually, parents and grandparents who take the time to foster strong, close, reciprocal relationships don't have this problem. It's the ones who were selfish and checked out who do. Then they wake up one day in old age and can't figure out why no one wants to visit them.

Door swings both ways. Sounds like grandma is trying very hard and DD is being a brat fully supported by her mom.

Why is it bratty to not want to talk to someone? Why would you even want a forced conversation?

Normalize letting kids say no. Agency is important.

Normilize raising kind, polite kids who understand that grandparents love them and are important. FFS

No. Trump is a grandparent, and he is incapable of love. So, no, I don't buy that a grandma is loving just because she's 82.

More likely, OP is enmeshed and controlling and that's why he wants to force these weekly convos. He is too busy doing what his momma tells him to do.

You have ZERO evidence she is anything but kind and loving. ZERO.

If dear wife thinks grandma is abusive or not deserving of love, respect or even a 5 minute phone call, she should put her big girl pants on and speak up instead of being passive aggressive and disappearing with DD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your spouse is zero percent responsible for you and your DD calling your mother.

This forever.

OP, it's your fscking mom. If you want to force your kid to engage her, YOU do that labor. Damn.

100%

If OP wants these calls to happen, OP needs to do the work. It’s not his wife's responsibility to foster a relationship between his kid and his mother.

OP is making it happen. His c*nt of a wife is actively sabotaging it.

OP is "making it happen" by making sure the housework's done and the groceries are bought before the time he demands everyone show up for his mom on Sunday? No, he's not. OP is, at best, being a whiny bag of petulant betch, complaining that the person doing the household tasks is "actively sabotaging" him because she won't force his kid to make/take a phone call.

OP isn't really doing shit, probably because he ain't shit. This has "spoiled mama's boy" written all over it.

OMG I'm crying from laughing. That's some grade A nonsense projecting!!!! BRAVA

You see him lifting a finger in all of this? Point to the part in the OP where he did anything but whine and complain.

I'll wait.

Oh, honey.....go deal with your own shit, please. It doesn't belong here.

And now you want to police what can't/can't happen here? Your sockpuppeting is pretty obvs, OP. The control issues REEK.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA please stop. I'm going to piss my pants. This is textbook DCUM.

Please do. Then you'll smell outwardly as much as your arguments stink online.

You're a mess, PP. Touch grass. And when that fails to correct your mess, please consider therapy. Nobody sane or happy behaves the way you're behaving right now. I hope you get the help you need.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes it's a kindness to do things we don't feel like doing for our family members. That is a good lesson, and it's not in any way abusive or neglectful toward DD. But your wife doesn't seem to agree so there is little you can do if she's running interference on this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

People have to be good humans. Then, people want to visit you.

It's not your spouse's job to make your kid talk to your mom. If you are going to force someone to do something, don't pawn that off on your wife.

You can't scare me with the assisted living. I've been supporting and visiting family members in those places longer than you have. Currently, the parent in AL has the depends, the bed pads that keep poop off the sheets, and so on because of me. I buy all that.

So take your scare tactics somewhere else. They won't work with me. I've sat with many a dying relative until the bitter end. Never minded doing it for the nice ones.

BS!!!!!! No way you do any of that and so adamantly oppose a 5 min phone call.

Learn that "it's just..." is a manipulation tactic. "it's just a 5 min phone call" No, it's a call the kid said she didn't want to make.

Instead of steamrolling her, try to understand why. Whining that "it's just..." is a weak person's trick.

I know, honey. Life is so hard for your generation. Everyone is either a narcissist or a manipulator or controlling. You were all abused and mistreated. No one ever lifted a finger for you. It's like you're completely incapable of having an independent thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your spouse is zero percent responsible for you and your DD calling your mother.

This forever.

OP, it's your fscking mom. If you want to force your kid to engage her, YOU do that labor. Damn.

100%

If OP wants these calls to happen, OP needs to do the work. It’s not his wife's responsibility to foster a relationship between his kid and his mother.

OP is making it happen. His c*nt of a wife is actively sabotaging it.

OP is "making it happen" by making sure the housework's done and the groceries are bought before the time he demands everyone show up for his mom on Sunday? No, he's not. OP is, at best, being a whiny bag of petulant betch, complaining that the person doing the household tasks is "actively sabotaging" him because she won't force his kid to make/take a phone call.

OP isn't really doing shit, probably because he ain't shit. This has "spoiled mama's boy" written all over it.

OMG I'm crying from laughing. That's some grade A nonsense projecting!!!! BRAVA

You see him lifting a finger in all of this? Point to the part in the OP where he did anything but whine and complain.

I'll wait.

Oh, honey.....go deal with your own shit, please. It doesn't belong here.

And now you want to police what can't/can't happen here? Your sockpuppeting is pretty obvs, OP. The control issues REEK.

BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA please stop. I'm going to piss my pants. This is textbook DCUM.

Please do. Then you'll smell outwardly as much as your arguments stink online.

You're a mess, PP. Touch grass. And when that fails to correct your mess, please consider therapy. Nobody sane or happy behaves the way you're behaving right now. I hope you get the help you need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

Actually, parents and grandparents who take the time to foster strong, close, reciprocal relationships don't have this problem. It's the ones who were selfish and checked out who do. Then they wake up one day in old age and can't figure out why no one wants to visit them.

Door swings both ways. Sounds like grandma is trying very hard and DD is being a brat fully supported by her mom.

Why is it bratty to not want to talk to someone? Why would you even want a forced conversation?

Normalize letting kids say no. Agency is important.

Normilize raising kind, polite kids who understand that grandparents love them and are important. FFS

No. Trump is a grandparent, and he is incapable of love. So, no, I don't buy that a grandma is loving just because she's 82.

More likely, OP is enmeshed and controlling and that's why he wants to force these weekly convos. He is too busy doing what his momma tells him to do.

You have ZERO evidence she is anything but kind and loving. ZERO.

If dear wife thinks grandma is abusive or not deserving of love, respect or even a 5 minute phone call, she should put her big girl pants on and speak up instead of being passive aggressive and disappearing with DD.

Actually, we do. Look at how her son behaves when he doesn't get his way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like this is all about your mother's needs and not the needs of your child.

How long have you prioritized your mother's needs and desires over those of your own family?

Someday you will be sitting in assisted living miserably wondering why your kids and grandkids never visit or call you. Think about this post then. And ring for the caregiver to change your Depends, but as usual she takes her time about showing up.

Actually, parents and grandparents who take the time to foster strong, close, reciprocal relationships don't have this problem. It's the ones who were selfish and checked out who do. Then they wake up one day in old age and can't figure out why no one wants to visit them.

Door swings both ways. Sounds like grandma is trying very hard and DD is being a brat fully supported by her mom.

Why is it bratty to not want to talk to someone? Why would you even want a forced conversation?

Normalize letting kids say no. Agency is important.

Normilize raising kind, polite kids who understand that grandparents love them and are important. FFS

No. Trump is a grandparent, and he is incapable of love. So, no, I don't buy that a grandma is loving just because she's 82.

More likely, OP is enmeshed and controlling and that's why he wants to force these weekly convos. He is too busy doing what his momma tells him to do.

You have ZERO evidence she is anything but kind and loving. ZERO.

If dear wife thinks grandma is abusive or not deserving of love, respect or even a 5 minute phone call, she should put her big girl pants on and speak up instead of being passive aggressive and disappearing with DD.

Actually, we do. Look at how her son behaves when he doesn't get his way.

How is that?