When you say t50...
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Anonymous
Rutgers is a fantastic and vital institution. As a state flagship university, it fulfills multiple roles, offering a diverse range of opportunities—from training nurses to educating future aerospace engineers. Few private schools, even among the top 50, provide such a broad spectrum of educational programs to serve their communities. Rutgers excels in doing so while remaining accessible through various admissions pathways. It deserves admiration and praise for the opportunities it provides. Regarding the strength of its student body, I am confident that the top students at Rutgers can compete with those from any university in the United States. While some people may prioritize status and equate it with a college’s level of selectivity, I challenge this narrow perspective. To those individuals, I would say: Continue clinging to your limited view of the world—just remember that your elite-educated children might one day work for a graduate of a so-called "low-ranked" state school. That’s often how the real world operates. |
Anonymous
Huh? Kids accepted to Northeastern and UGA picked UGA 60/40. The general public has absolutely nothing to say about Northeastern…except maybe to ask…did you mean Northwestern? |
Anonymous
See, the problem is this isn’t “the reality.” Most people are not making this choice. For most people, universities are not perfect substitutes, and they are only considering a small number of schools based on a wide range of factors, including cost, geographic proximity, familiarity, and specific major or program. This is how the whole conversation got started. You didn’t like that I claimed in response to another poster that “normal Americans” not only don’t have a view on whether UGA is top 50, they don’t have a view on most universities in general. And they would likely consult something like USNWR if they wanted a view. Your “reality” doesn’t take any of this into account. Sure, it can give us some generalizations (Ivies plus a few others are top, a bunch of unknown schools are bottom), but it can’t tell us specifically where schools fall. Just like most “normal Americans” can’t either. |
Anonymous
No, parents and kids didn't pick UCD over WF or NEU. UCD has 38% acceptance rate, yield rate is miserable 18%, and SAT was 1280 when accepting it. Clear not a choice over WF or NEU. You look at Parchment. I look at the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate. |
Anonymous
Except for the kids that were accepted to both and chose UCD over both. Stop crying like a b**tch and produce this comprehensive list you claim to have compiled. |
Anonymous
No, more applications doesn’t mean the general public thinks a place is better school overall. There could be any number of reasons why a school might get more applications separate from its educational quality, like the application requires no additional work (Northeastern doesn’t have a required supplemental essay), a school is closer to home, or a school is more affordable. |
Anonymous
Key takeaway from your specific posts: who gives a flying F what YOU look at? Sensible people will look at numerous reputable sources. Not some random DCUM poster who clearly doesn't know sh*t. |
Anonymous
When did I say more application?? How the general public decided is reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate. Almost 4 people out 10 can walk into UCD, and out of that less than 2 people are willing to attend. The cohort quality is not that high. WF and Northeastern crushes UCD in every single factor. |
Anonymous
Yes, sensible people will look at numerous reputable sources and make decisions. We can see how the general public made their decisions by the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate. That's the result of how people chose. |
Anonymous
Acceptance rate is a function of the number of applications (total number of applications is the denominator). One would think you would know this given how obsessed with it you are. |
Anonymous
What part of the combination don't you understand? Why are you obsessed with USNWR when it clearly displays flaws? |
Anonymous
Nice try with the red herring (look it up). Let’s get back to the part where you don’t know how acceptance rates are calculated. |
Anonymous
DP. In every other industry valuing the opinions of experts that have worked in that field their whole life and risen to some of the most senior positions is a given. When you are watching the news or reading a news article you depend more on what, say, a general says about military ability or a professional wine reviewer says about a wine or a certified medical professional says about a treatment more than random lay people. But when it comes to colleges, people can’t control their biases. Yes, USNWR is imperfect. Yes, it also is the best option if you value expert opinions. You may not care about the performance of Pell grant recipients, but that’s only weighted about 10% overall, half as much as expert opinions. And by the way, Pell grant recipients make up a third of college students nationwide. It should go without saying, but a campus where large numbers who need that financial assistance are consistently struggling just might not have as pleasant an atmosphere overall, even for those who don’t need the grants. |
Anonymous
| Using individual metrics and making an informed decision that fits your specific child is what I believe most parents would do. It’s unfortunate if the decision is purely based on the final US News ranking, but I have seen some status hungry parents go this route. And it doesn’t stop at college. The decision on grad school vs FAANG job, the brand of their kid’s first car are all driven by the same perspective. Life outcomes have also reflected this. |
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Outside of a few exceptions or if you cant afford it, there is no reason for a DCUM striver family to send your kid to a State University to hang around the Plebe…
The elites are not hanging out with the Plebe…. You send your kid to Sidwell only to see him/her end up at a State School….OMG What social meltdown. |