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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think of UGA when I think of T50. [/quote]

Well, it is. #46 🙂[/quote]

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…[/quote]

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…[b]they look blindly at USNWR[/b]…sorry.[/quote]

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry. 
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college. 
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

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The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.[/quote]

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??[/quote]

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.[/quote]

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.[/quote]

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best? [/quote]

I said it's reflected in [b]the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate[/b].

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate.  This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions.  This is the real true ranking in the real world.

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Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.[/quote]

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.  [/quote]

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.[/quote]

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take  USNews rankings.  That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.
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You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school.  Great.[/quote]

The result, what actually happened is not my opinion.  
Now, if you think USNEWS is better than the ground truth, so that believe UCD is better than Tufts or BC and Ruggers is better than Wake Forest or Northeastern, that's an opinion.

The reality is parents and students chose Tufts, BC over UCD and WF and NEU over Rutgers.[/quote]

See, the problem is this isn’t “the reality.” Most people are not making this choice. For most people, universities are not perfect substitutes, and they are only considering a small number of schools based on a wide range of factors, including cost, geographic proximity, familiarity, and specific major or program.

This is how the whole conversation got started. You didn’t like that I claimed in response to another poster that “normal Americans” not only don’t have a view on whether UGA is top 50,  they don’t have a view on most universities in general. And they would likely consult something like USNWR if they wanted a view.

Your “reality” doesn’t take any of this into account. Sure, it can give us some generalizations (Ivies plus a few others are top, a bunch of unknown schools are bottom), but it can’t tell us specifically where schools fall. Just like most “normal Americans” can’t either.[/quote]

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