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Blindly believing in USNWR vs Looking into actually what happened.

I choose latter.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Great…so give us your list based on your criteria.

None of us have any interest in running all these numbers to produce your list…and it seems neither do you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Okay so what is UGA’s rank on this list?

Oh that’s right, you don’t know, because it isn’t a real ranking. This is all we were talking about. “Normal” people don’t obsess like this, they just say “oh I wonder if that school is good” and if they consult any ranking it’s probably USNWR. And it’s just one data point in a much bigger decision and they move on.

This is result of actions by all the people. Just a fact.

I look at both references (actual and USNWR) but think actural is better reference.
You can disagree on this.
I personally think it's the better rerence than

So, what’s your list? In theory, you have done these calculations for hundreds of schools…right?

We are collectively curious what your rankings look like.

It's not exact science and it's stupid to number them 1 2 3 4 etc in the first place.
However you can easily see what actually happened in the real world every year - the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

You keep avoiding…ok, show us your list (even if schools are tied).

You claim it’s easy, you care a ton about it, so therefore you have compiled all this for hundreds of schools…right?

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

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The US News post-social equity is dumb...UC Merced as a top 50 school? It has an acceptance rate of 90% and only 9% of students who are accepted bother to go there. It's average SAT was 990 when the UC's last used SAT scores.

Pre social equity, US News had some value, so the 2018, 2019 editions.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school. Great.

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Anonymous wrote:Blindly believing in USNWR vs Looking into actually what happened.

I choose latter.

I choose to use U.S. News rankings as a reference, and I interpret schools ranked in the top 50 by U.S. News as being among the top 50 schools. Why is this perspective so controversial? For example, Case Western and Tulane are not currently ranked in the top 50, so I do not consider them top 50 schools. Similarly, if Northeastern University (currently ranked 54) moves into the top 50 in the future, then it would be considered a top 50 school. It’s a simple and straightforward approach.

For those who dislike U.S. News rankings, my suggestion is simple: don’t rely on them. If the rankings are truly unimportant, why do you seem so well-versed in them?

To the poster above: I recommend working on your writing skills. I had difficulty understanding your point due to unclear phrasing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school. Great.

The result, what actually happened is not my opinion.
Now, if you think USNEWS is better than the ground truth, so that believe UCD is better than Tufts or BC and Ruggers is better than Wake Forest or Northeastern, that's an opinion.

The reality is parents and students chose Tufts, BC over UCD and WF and NEU over Rutgers.

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Anonymous wrote:The US News post-social equity is dumb...UC Merced as a top 50 school? It has an acceptance rate of 90% and only 9% of students who are accepted bother to go there. It's average SAT was 990 when the UC's last used SAT scores.

Pre social equity, US News had some value, so the 2018, 2019 editions.

No, according to USNews it's 58th, so it's not a top 50 school. Get it?

Think you need to move on to another DCUM forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Blindly believing in USNWR vs Looking into actually what happened.

I choose latter.

I choose to use U.S. News rankings as a reference, and I interpret schools ranked in the top 50 by U.S. News as being among the top 50 schools. Why is this perspective so controversial? For example, Case Western and Tulane are not currently ranked in the top 50, so I do not consider them top 50 schools. Similarly, if Northeastern University (currently ranked 54) moves into the top 50 in the future, then it would be considered a top 50 school. It’s a simple and straightforward approach.

For those who dislike U.S. News rankings, my suggestion is simple: don’t rely on them. If the rankings are truly unimportant, why do you seem so well-versed in them?

To the poster above: I recommend working on your writing skills. I had difficulty understanding your point due to unclear phrasing.

You can choose whatever you choose just like different people choose differently .
I simply point out that we have a comprehensive result by 10 million students' collective choices.

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Anonymous wrote:Blindly believing in USNWR vs Looking into actually what happened.

I choose latter.

I choose to use U.S. News rankings as a reference, and I interpret schools ranked in the top 50 by U.S. News as being among the top 50 schools. Why is this perspective so controversial? For example, Case Western and Tulane are not currently ranked in the top 50, so I do not consider them top 50 schools. Similarly, if Northeastern University (currently ranked 54) moves into the top 50 in the future, then it would be considered a top 50 school. It’s a simple and straightforward approach.

For those who dislike U.S. News rankings, my suggestion is simple: don’t rely on them. If the rankings are truly unimportant, why do you seem so well-versed in them?

To the poster above: I recommend working on your writing skills. I had difficulty understanding your point due to unclear phrasing.

You can choose whatever you choose just like different people choose differently .
I simply point out that we have a comprehensive result by 10 million students' collective choices.

According to the result, the general public clearly chose Northeastern over Rutgers or UGA.
In the real world, Northeastern is ranked higher than Rutgers or UGA by the general public.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school. Great.

The result, what actually happened is not my opinion.
Now, if you think USNEWS is better than the ground truth, so that believe UCD is better than Tufts or BC and Ruggers is better than Wake Forest or Northeastern, that's an opinion.

The reality is parents and students chose Tufts, BC over UCD and WF and NEU over Rutgers.

If parents only chose private colleges, then schools like Rutgers, UMD, Ohio State, UC Davis, UF, UMASS Amherst, etc. are inferior and unworthy of USNews recognition because of your stupid "ground truth."

Got it.

The ground truth is that your views are irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school. Great.

The result, what actually happened is not my opinion.
Now, if you think USNEWS is better than the ground truth, so that believe UCD is better than Tufts or BC and Ruggers is better than Wake Forest or Northeastern, that's an opinion.

The reality is parents and students chose Tufts, BC over UCD and WF and NEU over Rutgers.

If parents only chose private colleges, then schools like Rutgers, UMD, Ohio State, UC Davis, UF, UMASS Amherst, etc. are inferior and unworthy of USNews recognition because of your stupid "ground truth."

Got it.

The ground truth is that your views are irrelevant.

What happens is what happens, and it's the truth. It's not opinion or view.
USNWR is an opinion and you believing in it is a view.

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Anonymous wrote:I think of UGA when I think of T50.

Well, it is. #46 🙂

When any normal American thinks of UGA they dont think TOP 50…..sorry….most Americans dont even think about UGA….unless it is football….sorry.

Truth is, NO State School other that UCs and Michigan and maybe….UVA at t50…..and that is it…..it is private world….whether state people like it or not…

Normal Americans don’t think about this…sorry…most Americans don’t think about most universities…and can’t even name the schools in the Ivy League…sorry.

Truth is, when someone thinks about where a school falls comparatively…sorry…they look blindly at USNWR…sorry.

Nope, if that's the case USG would get relatively low acceptance rate with full of high stat kids. That's not the case... sorry.
Normal Americans pay good attention to what they pay especially something as big as college.
While USNWR is one of the most influential references, it's still a reference.

Every year, 10 million students collectively rank schools, apply, and commit. That is the real ranking.
We get the ground truth every year and it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

The mental gymnastics on this are really something to behold.

Are you one of the fools blindly go by USNWR??

No, but I have enough awareness and perspective to realize that most Americans are happy to just send their kids in state, they don’t obsess over rankings, and for most people USNWR is the only ranking they are likely aware of, or at least the first place they would look if trying to figure out if a school is “good” or not.

This place is a bubble. The hyper-fixation/obsession with how prestigious a school is is a bubble. DC is a bubble. Most people are not like this. Sorry.

Bottom line is that again we get a real ranking by 10 million students every year vs imaginary rankings by magazines.
We get the collective actions by 10 millions students. That's just a fact.
That's just a fact.

I am confused…so what is this so called ranking of which you speak based on applications?

Considering you have kids submitting 20+ applications to schools, what does what your write tell us about anything?

Does that mean the schools that get the most applications are the best?

I said it's reflected in the combination of acceptance rate + yield rate + cohort quality, and additionally retention rate + graduation rate.

For example very top schools like MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Princeton get extremely low acceptance rate + very high yield rate + very top cohort quality + very high retention and graduation rate. This the result of collective actions by all the students actually taking actions. This is the real true ranking in the real world.

Those are top ranked by USNews…so why go through all your calculations when you have a readily accessible source.

USNews have some entries far from the reality. For example schools like Rutgers.
You are free to just blindly go with USNews. Many don't, and at the end every year, we have the actual in the real world how all the students ranked the schools collectively.

Parents and students will take USNews rankings ( yes including solid public schools like Rutgers) over your dumbass musings.

Nope, again the reality is Rutgers has high acceptance rate(students can easily walk in as low demand), low yield(even as a state flagship), full of 1200 SAT students.
So in reality parents and students don't just take USNews rankings. That's the reality in the real world not USNRW imaginary world.

I'm just pointing out that every year, we get the actual ground truth.

You stated such in another thread. Your opinion. USNews opinion is better than yours. You don't care for a particular school. Great.

The result, what actually happened is not my opinion.
Now, if you think USNEWS is better than the ground truth, so that believe UCD is better than Tufts or BC and Ruggers is better than Wake Forest or Northeastern, that's an opinion.

The reality is parents and students chose Tufts, BC over UCD and WF and NEU over Rutgers.

However, parents and kids did pick UCD over WF and Northeastern according to parchment…so explain that to us now.