Culture War and the death of “Woke”

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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.

It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.

I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?

It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.

I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax

The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.

Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.

Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.

Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue

Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.

But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.

So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup

What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.

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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.

My 75 year old father went to urgent care recently and was so confused when the paperwork asked for his pronouns and his gender identity. He thought “they” was for twins.

so respect and language is the problem??? When you father was born calling people Coloreds and limiting what bathroom they could use was the norm.

Disrespecting Black people is not the same as placating people with identity issues. This line of thinking is why Hispanic men are moving over to Trump in droves and why you are going to lose minorities of all genders, who are much more socially conservative than UMC white Democrats, in increasing numbers if the Dems don’t distance themselves as much as possible from people who think like you ASAP.

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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.

It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.

I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?

It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.

I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax

The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.

Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.

Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.

Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue

Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.

But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.

So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup

What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?

Let’s see if Trump bans her. We all know she will continue to play and you will seethe. The rich liberals on this board will be talking about their extravagant trips to Europe on their tax savings and doubling home prices in DC while the Republicans continue to get fatter, need more healthcare that they can’t afford, and rage about the transgenders. The truth hurts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Men are just pathetic. Just suck it up.

Careful, or we might have to roll the clock back farther.

This is a truly sick joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.

You are not an amoral degenerate like them.

[Anonymous]

Any cultural change is considered “woke” by the people who don’t want any change.

The anti-woke people will die off eventually and the rest of us will move forward.

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, Trump voters don’t have mental capacity to think large or think ahead.

A man participating in a women Olympics is more important than our environment going down the toilet, more important than lack of affordable healthcare or the crap mass food production.

Modern Americans are obese and sickly and will have much shorter life span, but sure let’s focus on gender bathrooms.

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I don't think for most of us the main objection is the trans advantage in women's sports. I'm a teacher and for several years now we've been counseled against saying boys and girls in favor of more "gender inclusive" language. When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.

My 75 year old father went to urgent care recently and was so confused when the paperwork asked for his pronouns and his gender identity. He thought “they” was for twins.

so respect and language is the problem??? When you father was born calling people Coloreds and limiting what bathroom they could use was the norm.

Disrespecting Black people is not the same as placating people with identity issues. This line of thinking is why Hispanic men are moving over to Trump in droves and why you are going to lose minorities of all genders, who are much more socially conservative than UMC white Democrats, in increasing numbers if the Dems don’t distance themselves as much as possible from people who think like you ASAP.

And never in that time were women told there is basically no such thing. No definition. Now we have to call ourselves "ciswomen." There are going to be severe ramifications if the left just keeps seeing changing language as no big deal. I will not call myself a ciswoman. Just woman is fine thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any cultural change is considered “woke” by the people who don’t want any change.

The anti-woke people will die off eventually and the rest of us will move forward.

Ask the average new immigrant how they feel about “they / them” usage and trans people in women sports and see what happens. The irony is that the less white this country gets the more socially conservative it will become.

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When visiting colleges with my daughters, the presenters would always begin by announcing their pronouns.

This is the kind of shift that most Americans find deeply troubling and quite frankly inane. This is our society, our culture, what the left is trying to push on us as normal. It's not just conservative that are fed up with this. It's really the norm among the majority although people are reluctant to speak openly about it. I know quite a few left leaning if not liberal people who have grumbled about feeling like they now need to add their pronouns to their work emails. Even my college daughter who is definitely a democrat says she feels like she needs to add her pronouns to her socials even though she thinks it's rather silly. I truly don't think the left realizes how much this stuff has alienated the majority of Americans.

The pronouns? The pronouns?

A Trump in my family supporter is an
- obese person
- with a slew of health conditions
- working a low wage job
- uneducated
- doesn’t have retirement savings
- $6K in credit card debt
- can’t afford kids’ college
- can’t afford a house
- unprotected from layoffs and on a verge of being replaced by AI and losing healthcare coverage
- always on the verge of medical bankruptcy
- unprotected from the fallout of climate change

But the main problem is the pronouns?

Not lack of affordable education, not lack of affordable healthcare, not better quality food, not protecting environment from poisoning, not lack of upward mobility, none of that.. The pronouns!

Do they look at themselves in the mirror and think the biggest problem for me is the gender ambiguity? Or the biggest problem for me is that Mexican next door that goes to ER for free?

That person is not the voting bloc that won the election. It was suburban parents, hispanics and east/south asians flipping red and millennials/gen z not voting. Harris gained votes among boomers and white people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any cultural change is considered “woke” by the people who don’t want any change.

The anti-woke people will die off eventually and the rest of us will move forward.

Exactly. We don't care what you think, MAGOTs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any cultural change is considered “woke” by the people who don’t want any change.

The anti-woke people will die off eventually and the rest of us will move forward.

Ask the average new immigrant how they feel about “they / them” usage and trans people in women sports and see what happens. The irony is that the less white this country gets the more socially conservative it will become.

Yes. And guess who has the most babies? Woke city dwellers? Or religious conservatives and new immigrants?

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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.

It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.

I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?

It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.

I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax

The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.

Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.

Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.

Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue

Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.

But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.

So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup

What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?

Let’s see if Trump bans her. We all know she will continue to play and you will seethe. The rich liberals on this board will be talking about their extravagant trips to Europe on their tax savings and doubling home prices in DC while the Republicans continue to get fatter, need more healthcare that they can’t afford, and rage about the transgenders. The truth hurts.

The NCAA has entered an agreement that will basically roll back the clock for female athletes by decades. Biden wants to add men who think they're women into the coverage of this very much endangered law. But sure, go ahead and keep telling us it's just about one young man smashing the heads of female atheletes, so it's okay to just accept it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any cultural change is considered “woke” by the people who don’t want any change.

The anti-woke people will die off eventually and the rest of us will move forward.

Ask the average new immigrant how they feel about “they / them” usage and trans people in women sports and see what happens. The irony is that the less white this country gets the more socially conservative it will become.

Yes. And guess who has the most babies? Woke city dwellers? Or religious conservatives and new immigrants?

So much this. The angry young millennials I know in DC are way too angry and weird to find husbands or make babies with their beta men.

[Anonymous]

So, just making sure I’m caught up, the Dems lost because we didn’t care about volleyball as much as we apparently care about pronouns?

I don’t really care about either, but that’s me.

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Anonymous wrote: I am a middle aged Catholic married mother. Trying to be empathetic to people who are not “normies” is not too much of an ask for me. However, I will never be ok with a felon, racist, thief, rapist as president.

It’s moved well beyond “empathy” when we are asked to allow biological male bodies on our girls’ sports team and into their restrooms.

I'm far more worried about hetero men around me and my daughter than any trans person.

And this is just not happening -men in women's bathrooms and teams- on any significant level. And even it if were, it could be handled to find a solution that wasn't demonizing people and without cruelty. But as usual, MAGA is not capable of that.

Do you never use a unisex bathroom, btw?

It absolutely is happening at a significant level. Look at the boycotts of collegiate women, willing to lose games rather than risk their safety playing against male bodies. Look at the firing of the coaches speaking up for their female players. Look at the two winners of the female boxing category at the Olympics. You can bury your head in the sand or you can open your eyes.

I have college athletes on my own and I've been to countless athletic events in college and elsewhere. This is not a thing. Youth sports, college sports, high school sports. They are rolling along as the billion dollar business that they are . relax

The left always starts with denial before moving to “it’s not happening at all significant level” to “it’s happening and it’s a good thing”.

Tell the San Jose state volleyball team that they didn’t boycott a game for fear of their safety. Tell the coach that she wasn’t suspended - well actually, address the title ix lawsuit she just fired. Her name is Melissa Smoose.

According to the UN report, "Violence Against Women and Girls in Sports," transgender athletes have won around 900 medals in different women's sports at several events, replacing female athletes.

Lucky ass. We've got enough problems locked down that we get to put all our energy into college volleyball. Awesome!.

Complete inability to see how change happens. It's okay if just a few women are discriminated against, right? It's not happening that much? Just volleyball. Don't you see what that signifies? We are so close to eliminating the rights women were provided by Title IX that it's frightening. Those rights are far more at risk than "reproductive rights," but this election and young women on the left have reduced us all to our uteruses. The issues are far greater than a few men in the women's locker room or playing on volleyball teams--but these are the signs and people like you are choosing to ignore them so you can look virtuous. Erasing women is not a virtue.

Get a life. you're putting the entire country through hell over a non-issue

Not PP but this attitude is exactly why you lost the presidency and congress. Telling voters their concerns are a “non issue” is condescending and backfires.

But why don't you go and tell that to my niece who was raped and lost a year of college. Explain to her why this guy has to sit in the oval office and she's struggling to finish college. And there's plenty more like her. Way way more like her than trans athletes that ever stepped out on a field.

So sorry honey and sorry to the several hundred thousand others like you every single year. I know that was really brutal and disorienting and fundamentally altered your life, but San Jose State volleyball is more important. Suck it up Buttercup

What does this niece have to do with the San Jose volleyball players being told to risk their safety playing men?

I know right? These several hundred thousand annual rape victims need to just shut the f up . There's a sexually assaulting thug in power over you and too bad. We've got problems with volleyball so you all need to just sit down and be quiet.