APE screenshots: this is how they play to win

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t APS put the survey in Patent Vue or Parent Square or something so they know it’s an APS family and everyone fills it out once?

APE has a lot of members with kids in private schools. I bet they all filled it out too.

Because non-APS parents can legitimately participate in the survey. Interested community members, future parents, past parents, etc.
And because not every APS parent is on ParentVue. Some 2-parent households just have one parent using it.
I also think it can be useful to have perspectives from parents who have taken their kids out of APS and put them into private - helps APS identify the "why" and how they are not measuring up.

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Anonymous wrote:They scratched it out. I can’t tell who it is.

I was neutral on APE until these screenshots came out. The person who posted in Alexandria’s forum was wrong, not the OP.

Anyone on AEM knows who it is anyway. Just enough was left unscratched to make sure of that.

I’m in AEM and have no idea who it is. But that’s okay. They identified themselves as APE. That’s the important part.

It’s the one who was exceptionally nasty to other parents and teachers.

All of them?

Because I was around in 2020-22.

I don't mind being clueless here.

Fair enough. There are certainly many of them who were horrible. She was maybe the second most notorious female poster. Continued on longer than others.

And it turns out that she didn’t even have kids in K yet at that point.

then she doesn't have kids in high school now so why is she so hell bent on taking away high school kids' phones between classes and at lunch? wait til her own kid applies to college and it's all online!!!

I have kids in high school and see no reason that they should have a phone at any time from first bell to last bell.

Do you really think that our kids, or even if it's a kid who has never had a phone before, could not figure out college? They don't need years to prepare for how to use a phone/tablet/website in college. They can figure it out then, in the first two minutes of college.

You can say that to APS. I hope you made a comment.

You didn't need an ACPS parent who has no investment in the system to say the same.

Unless you're not an APS parent. Then go email your division.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OOP: I see that one link was removed because I accidentally didn't blot out one name. It's causing a lot of confusion in the thread, so I edited it again and reposting for context.

https://imgur.com/a/lkpQGtG

Update: the APE poster now claims her message was misconstrued!

No I think we all got her message loud and clear when she clearly invited people in the Alexandria group to take the APS survey!

These people are shameless.

Here's her latest post in the Alexandria group:

"It has come to my intention that in the comments of my post about how neighboring districts administer SOLs, where someone asked what the latest was on Arlington’s cell phone policy in Arlington, my comment and share of a survey collecting community feedback is being misconstrued as asking Alexandria families to answer the survey. These surveys always ask if you are a community member, parent, teacher, etc. I would never want someone who does not fall into one of these categories to lie or inappropriately fill out a survey.
The only reason I was in an Alexandria group to begin with is because I used to live there; so what I meant but should have explicitly stated was “if you also live/work, etc. in Arlington”. I’m sorry that was not obvious—I think being in comments I was rushing and not paying enough attention to my phrasing. And again, from my perspective as a former Alexandria resident, that’s very common. Regardless, I’ve deleted the original post to reduce confusion.
Finally—it also came across like I was posting on behalf of APE I think because when I shared a link to the website on the post a thumbnail of APE’s logo popped up. I was seeking information on how other districts take SOL tests out of my own interest in the EdTech issue—because it’s often used as an excuse for keeping our kids on iPads. The cell phone sidebar conversation in the comments was also not at all an official post from APE as an organization.
Happy to answer questions from those who found my posts concerning…I take ethics very seriously and have not and would never seek to inappropriately tip scales or violate rules. I am simply enthusiastic about reducing screen usage in schools and I’m sorry I did not communicate that better."

Hmmm. ok.
Sorry, but your original post to the alexandria group was quite clearly worded. It's really hard to believe you were not open to anyone there making supportive comments to add to your/APE's position. (And I agree with the bell to bell ban, with or without pouches)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t APS put the survey in Patent Vue or Parent Square or something so they know it’s an APS family and everyone fills it out once?

APE has a lot of members with kids in private schools. I bet they all filled it out too.

Because non-APS parents can legitimately participate in the survey. Interested community members, future parents, past parents, etc.
And because not every APS parent is on ParentVue. Some 2-parent households just have one parent using it.
I also think it can be useful to have perspectives from parents who have taken their kids out of APS and put them into private - helps APS identify the "why" and how they are not measuring up.

No thanks I don't want the APEs who moved into private school influencing policy in my kid's school. Go email your private school and influence policies there. Stay out of my kid's school if you are not there.

[Anonymous]

It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

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Anonymous wrote:They scratched it out. I can’t tell who it is.

I was neutral on APE until these screenshots came out. The person who posted in Alexandria’s forum was wrong, not the OP.

Anyone on AEM knows who it is anyway. Just enough was left unscratched to make sure of that.

I’m in AEM and have no idea who it is. But that’s okay. They identified themselves as APE. That’s the important part.

It’s the one who was exceptionally nasty to other parents and teachers.

All of them?

Because I was around in 2020-22.

I don't mind being clueless here.

Fair enough. There are certainly many of them who were horrible. She was maybe the second most notorious female poster. Continued on longer than others.

And it turns out that she didn’t even have kids in K yet at that point.

then she doesn't have kids in high school now so why is she so hell bent on taking away high school kids' phones between classes and at lunch? wait til her own kid applies to college and it's all online!!!

I have kids in high school and see no reason that they should have a phone at any time from first bell to last bell.

Do you really think that our kids, or even if it's a kid who has never had a phone before, could not figure out college? They don't need years to prepare for how to use a phone/tablet/website in college. They can figure it out then, in the first two minutes of college.

You can say that to APS. I hope you made a comment.

You didn't need an ACPS parent who has no investment in the system to say the same.

My kids go to a Nova high school but not in APS. Thank goodness! Supporting phones in schools? No thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

Arlington parents with kids in private have no business commenting on APS surveys. It does not affect them in any way. Don't act like people will come back from private with a ridiculous APE policy in place.

[Anonymous]

Does the hostile APE dad who screamed over people at a SB meeting have kids in APS now? His kids were in private last I heard.

He’s one of the co-chairs on an APS advisory committee.

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Crickets about this on the APE Facebook page because we know APE thinks accountability is only for APS.

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

Arlington parents with kids in private have no business commenting on APS surveys. It does not affect them in any way. Don't act like people will come back from private with a ridiculous APE policy in place.

What if your kids are in private because APS was doing such a poor job of educating them? Can they comment then?

What if a person is an Arlington taxpayer who thinks that, if they're going to force you to pay for APS, it probably ought to do a good job educating kids? Does their opinion matter?

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

Arlington parents with kids in private have no business commenting on APS surveys. It does not affect them in any way. Don't act like people will come back from private with a ridiculous APE policy in place.

What if your kids are in private because APS was doing such a poor job of educating them? Can they comment then?

What if a person is an Arlington taxpayer who thinks that, if they're going to force you to pay for APS, it probably ought to do a good job educating kids? Does their opinion matter?

Nope. Go complain to your private school. APS email is there if you want to bother school board members.

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

Arlington parents with kids in private have no business commenting on APS surveys. It does not affect them in any way. Don't act like people will come back from private with a ridiculous APE policy in place.

What if your kids are in private because APS was doing such a poor job of educating them? Can they comment then?

What if a person is an Arlington taxpayer who thinks that, if they're going to force you to pay for APS, it probably ought to do a good job educating kids? Does their opinion matter?

Nope. Go complain to your private school. APS email is there if you want to bother school board members.

APS disagrees. They allow anyone to comment on their bad surveys because they plan to ignore all the feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's absolutely insane that people without kids in APS can submit feedback. You send your kid to private - give them feedback. You live in Alexandria or Tamps, FL, give your schools feedback. I don't know APS has to be so clueless about these surveys. They need to be limited to the families that are actually impacted.

I disagree. I want Arlington residents to submit feedback even if their kids attend private because people pull students out of APS for really good reasons and their feedback is important too. That's why the surveys don't assume all respondents are APS parents.

But APE was wrong to ask Alexandria parents to comment.

Arlington parents with kids in private have no business commenting on APS surveys. It does not affect them in any way. Don't act like people will come back from private with a ridiculous APE policy in place.

What if your kids are in private because APS was doing such a poor job of educating them? Can they comment then?

What if a person is an Arlington taxpayer who thinks that, if they're going to force you to pay for APS, it probably ought to do a good job educating kids? Does their opinion matter?

No

[Anonymous]

But did anyone email the screenshots to the school board?