100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

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Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.


Guess what. We're running out of runway.

The INTEREST on the national debt is $1 Trillion/year and it's only going up. That's 4X your government officials salaries. Got it?

This was all predicted decades ago. Now it's happening. Everyone can sense an epic sh1* storm is on the way.


Hey guess what - TRUMP blew up the debt.

That cannot be denied.


He had the help of a democrat led Congress, did he not during a national emergency (covid)?

But you wanted to keep the sugar flowing by declaring climate change a global emergency and existential threat, correct?
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think this will help USG to retain good people. DC has priced itself out as a government town.


Fed and contractor family and I'd love if we had to move. We won't because one of us has to show up on the Hill regularly, but man we'd much rather be elsewhere.


+1. Without federal government here, there would be no attraction at all to live in DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.


Guess what. We're running out of runway.

The INTEREST on the national debt is $1 Trillion/year and it's only going up. That's 4X your government officials salaries. Got it?

This was all predicted decades ago. Now it's happening. Everyone can sense an epic sh1* storm is on the way.


Hey guess what - TRUMP blew up the debt.

That cannot be denied.


He had the help of a democrat led Congress, did he not during a national emergency (covid)?

But you wanted to keep the sugar flowing by declaring climate change a global emergency and existential threat, correct?


Trump certainly flowed his sugar. Biden ended Trump's "stimmy checks" and went after all of the fraud and abuse in Trump's PPP loan program.

As for climate change, hate to break it to you but it's still an emergency and a threat. As for sugar on that one you leave me scratching my head - it's not exactly like climate scientists are living high on the hog with mansions and yachts. Nope, that's the fossil fuel industry, which has spent billions on disinformation denying that climate change is a problem. Plus it's pretty wild for climate deniers to be running around NOW saying it's not a problem while most of America is being beaten down by a record-breaking heat wave.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think this will help USG to retain good people. DC has priced itself out as a government town.


Fed and contractor family and I'd love if we had to move. We won't because one of us has to show up on the Hill regularly, but man we'd much rather be elsewhere.


+1. Without federal government here, there would be no attraction at all to live in DC.


Smithsonian? Easy access to Philadelphia, NY, DE/MD/VA beaches, eastern shore, Outerbankx, Amish country? On the northeast Amtrak corrodor? 3 major airports? Close to beautiful mountain country? Great concert scene? Kennedy Center? Excellent restaurants? Major sports teams? Major medical hubs here and nearby in Baltimore?

Well, to each their own.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think this will help USG to retain good people. DC has priced itself out as a government town.


Fed and contractor family and I'd love if we had to move. We won't because one of us has to show up on the Hill regularly, but man we'd much rather be elsewhere.


+1. Without federal government here, there would be no attraction at all to live in DC.


Speak for yourself. We've considered moving to more tax-advantaged locations as we head toward retirement but then again when we compare DC to the places we're considering moving, there's the matter of kids finishing college, and frankly there's a lot less job opportunity for them and a lot less things for them to do in those places as compared to DC.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think this will help USG to retain good people. DC has priced itself out as a government town.


Fed and contractor family and I'd love if we had to move. We won't because one of us has to show up on the Hill regularly, but man we'd much rather be elsewhere.


+1. Without federal government here, there would be no attraction at all to live in DC.


Smithsonian? Easy access to Philadelphia, NY, DE/MD/VA beaches, eastern shore, Outerbankx, Amish country? On the northeast Amtrak corrodor? 3 major airports? Close to beautiful mountain country? Great concert scene? Kennedy Center? Excellent restaurants? Major sports teams? Major medical hubs here and nearby in Baltimore?

Well, to each their own.


+1000
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Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.


Guess what. We're running out of runway.

The INTEREST on the national debt is $1 Trillion/year and it's only going up. That's 4X your government officials salaries. Got it?

This was all predicted decades ago. Now it's happening. Everyone can sense an epic sh1* storm is on the way.


Hey guess what - TRUMP blew up the debt.

That cannot be denied.


He had the help of a democratically led Congress, did he not during a national emergency (covid)?

But you wanted to keep the sugar flowing by declaring climate change a global emergency and existential threat, correct?


The Democrats in Congress did not approve of his tax cuts for the rich. That’s what in large part led to the explosion of the debt.

And are you saying Trump was too weak to say no to Covid relief? Why didn’t he veto the things you seem to be suggesting are the cause of the debt (wrong).
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Republicans who believe in smaller government want to move government jobs out across the US? It’ll just make it harder when they inevitably want to slash those jobs. You’ll get Repubkican politicians pushing back at any RIFs of their constituents.


You can do both-slash some and move most of the remaining out.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Republicans who believe in smaller government want to move government jobs out across the US? It’ll just make it harder when they inevitably want to slash those jobs. You’ll get Repubkican politicians pushing back at any RIFs of their constituents.


You can do both-slash some and move most of the remaining out.


Agree this is what will happen.

It's much more palatable politically to have federal employees spread across the country. They contribute to economic stability, they pay into state/local tax coffers and the argument will be made that being "local" they are more in tune with your average Americans than those who are DC-based and entrenched.

Not to mention the salary savings - many jobs that are GS-12+ in DC could easily be reclassified to the GS-9 level elsewhere, and still be considered a very good wage, even for supervisory positions.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Republicans who believe in smaller government want to move government jobs out across the US? It’ll just make it harder when they inevitably want to slash those jobs. You’ll get Repubkican politicians pushing back at any RIFs of their constituents.


You can do both-slash some and move most of the remaining out.


Agree this is what will happen.

It's much more palatable politically to have federal employees spread across the country. They contribute to economic stability, they pay into state/local tax coffers and the argument will be made that being "local" they are more in tune with your average Americans than those who are DC-based and entrenched.

Not to mention the salary savings - many jobs that are GS-12+ in DC could easily be reclassified to the GS-9 level elsewhere, and still be considered a very good wage, even for supervisory positions.


I’m not following the second paragraph- why would a GS-12 position be reclassified to a GS-9? Locality pay would be less in most other metro areas, but that’s different than reclassifying positions to a lower grade.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh fun, another thread full of hate towards federal employees by people who don’t know anything about the government.


For people who claim Feds don’t work they clearly have very little going on themselves…



They don’t even know what the government does. It is sad that conservatives have maligned the government and its workers for so long that a large number of Americans have no idea what the government does. I am just very tired of uneducated/stupid MAGA. They aren’t going to wake up until it’s too late, especially MAGA in the Midwest or more rural America. The quality of life for rural and midwestern Americans is exponentially better because of government. They wouldn’t even have electricity had it not been for government intervention! But yea, drown it a bathtub. 🙄



And you obviously know nothing about the Midwest. It’s the rust belt that made this country an industrial powerhouse. Its farmlands feed the nation. It actually produces things necessary for A nation to grow and thrive. That electricity comment you made is ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.


Guess what. We're running out of runway.

The INTEREST on the national debt is $1 Trillion/year and it's only going up. That's 4X your government officials salaries. Got it?

This was all predicted decades ago. Now it's happening. Everyone can sense an epic sh1* storm is on the way.


Hey guess what - TRUMP blew up the debt.

That cannot be denied.


He had the help of a democrat led Congress, did he not during a national emergency (covid)?

But you wanted to keep the sugar flowing by declaring climate change a global emergency and existential threat, correct?

oh, now it's the Dems fault, and Trump is blameless. There's this thing called a "veto".

He was so proud to sign his name on all those covid payments from the IRS, and plenty of Rs took out PPPs, and made millions from it, including Jared Kushner.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fine. I have a PhD in STEM, I will go to private industry and make 4x more money.


If this was an option for you, you'd be doing that right now.


I know many people who work for the federal government b/c they believe in serving their country. I know that seems crazy to you.


There's too many of them. Too much bloat. Our tax system can"t afford them anymore.

Time for some of them to go into private industry. Fed.gov should not be a jobs program.


How much of the taxes paid goes to government officials' salary? $260 billion per year. The government budget is $6 Trillion, so the salaries represent about 4 percent of the federal budget.


Guess what. We're running out of runway.

The INTEREST on the national debt is $1 Trillion/year and it's only going up. That's 4X your government officials salaries. Got it?

This was all predicted decades ago. Now it's happening. Everyone can sense an epic sh1* storm is on the way.


Hey guess what - TRUMP blew up the debt.

That cannot be denied.


He had the help of a democrat led Congress, did he not during a national emergency (covid)?

But you wanted to keep the sugar flowing by declaring climate change a global emergency and existential threat, correct?


Nope, he blew up the debt with the 2017 tax cuts that were only supported by GOP in the House and Senate.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh fun, another thread full of hate towards federal employees by people who don’t know anything about the government.


For people who claim Feds don’t work they clearly have very little going on themselves…



They don’t even know what the government does. It is sad that conservatives have maligned the government and its workers for so long that a large number of Americans have no idea what the government does. I am just very tired of uneducated/stupid MAGA. They aren’t going to wake up until it’s too late, especially MAGA in the Midwest or more rural America. The quality of life for rural and midwestern Americans is exponentially better because of government. They wouldn’t even have electricity had it not been for government intervention! But yea, drown it a bathtub. 🙄



And you obviously know nothing about the Midwest. It’s the rust belt that made this country an industrial powerhouse. Its farmlands feed the nation. It actually produces things necessary for A nation to grow and thrive. That electricity comment you made is ridiculous.


At this point, the farmlands are mostly export crops and corn for high fructose corn syrup that go into all of the processed foods. The actual produce from grocery stores like tomatoes and lettuce, comes mostly from California and Central/South America, with the exception of the local farms that sell via road stands or CSAs.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would Republicans who believe in smaller government want to move government jobs out across the US? It’ll just make it harder when they inevitably want to slash those jobs. You’ll get Repubkican politicians pushing back at any RIFs of their constituents.


You can do both-slash some and move most of the remaining out.


Agree this is what will happen.

It's much more palatable politically to have federal employees spread across the country. They contribute to economic stability, they pay into state/local tax coffers and the argument will be made that being "local" they are more in tune with your average Americans than those who are DC-based and entrenched.

Not to mention the salary savings - many jobs that are GS-12+ in DC could easily be reclassified to the GS-9 level elsewhere, and still be considered a very good wage, even for supervisory positions.


The loss of efficiency for this, particularly when you have a married PhD working at NIH and a spouse economist working at the Fed for example, is ridiculous.
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