100,000 federal jobs shipped out of DC and reclassify 50,000 civil servants.

[Anonymous]

I think it would be a win-win to move some fed jobs out of DC. I know quite a few friends who are hoping they get moved out. A few more would join the bandwagon if they knew where they would be move to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pre-Carter, the feds were highly intelligent, elite people who felt obligation to country. Today, the feds are mediocre and unmotivated, many have been stealing paychecks from gov since the day gov was shutdown bc of covid. They are wildly overpaid. A 50% reduction would not be enough- I would do 80% reduction. The fed gov is like twitter before musk took over, only with a far lower IQ. We could get rid of 50% and you literally would not notice.

No one’s listening to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're retiring after 30 years with 90% to 100% of their monthly pay plus benefits.

Nope. Hasn't been true for years, that's the old Civil Service system that only exists for the oldest of fed retirees.

FERS annuities are based on high-3 average pay. Generally, the benefit is calculated as 1 percent of high-3 average pay multiplied by years of creditable service. For those retiring at age 62 or later with at least 20 years of service, a factor of 1.1 percent is used rather than 1 percent.

Age: Minimum Retirement Age*
High-3: $60,000
Service: 30 years
.01 x 30 x $60,000 = $18,000 (30% of high-3)

Yep, that's a pension of 18k a year on a 60k salary. We feds are really rolling in the money.

You left out that the Feds now also get TSP and Social Security, where they used to only get the pension. Depending on how one's TSP did, the retirement income is about the same.

A TSP is like a 401k that Feds contribute their own money to, just like private sector employees. You get what you put in. And they pay Social Security taxes like everyone else.
Are you really this stupid, PP? Really?

Apparently. And the people who listen to them aren't that bright either.

They almost sound jealous they don't have a piddly little pension as well as an IRA (TSP) the feds contribute to like everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pre-Carter, the feds were highly intelligent, elite people who felt obligation to country. Today, the feds are mediocre and unmotivated, many have been stealing paychecks from gov since the day gov was shutdown bc of covid. They are wildly overpaid. A 50% reduction would not be enough- I would do 80% reduction. The fed gov is like twitter before musk took over, only with a far lower IQ. We could get rid of 50% and you literally would not notice.

Oh for sure you would and then you’d be the loudest person complaining that the National park or monument you wanted to go to was closed because of staff reductions or the flight you wanted to take was canceled because it enough air traffic controllers or your tax refund check was late because there weren’t enough staff to get through all the returns quickly or you got sick because food inspection was reduced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Circling back to the topic of this post...

“As many as 100,000 government positions could be moved out, and I mean immediately, of Washington, to places filled with patriots who love America,” Trump said in a campaign video.

In fact, former President Trump began that process during his last administration, shipping the entire headquarters of the Bureau of Land Management, more than 300 jobs, out of the District to Colorado. The Biden administration undid that too, bringing all those positions back to D.C." -- per the earlier WUSA link here.

How difficult will it be to actually transfer tens of thousands of jobs out of DC? I suppose it could be done with an Executive Order?

Curious is anyone on here is familiar with the previous attempt to move BLM HQ, and how that shaped up.

Many of those jobs aren't needed. Eliminate the position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Circling back to the topic of this post...

“As many as 100,000 government positions could be moved out, and I mean immediately, of Washington, to places filled with patriots who love America,” Trump said in a campaign video.

In fact, former President Trump began that process during his last administration, shipping the entire headquarters of the Bureau of Land Management, more than 300 jobs, out of the District to Colorado. The Biden administration undid that too, bringing all those positions back to D.C." -- per the earlier WUSA link here.

How difficult will it be to actually transfer tens of thousands of jobs out of DC? I suppose it could be done with an Executive Order?

Curious is anyone on here is familiar with the previous attempt to move BLM HQ, and how that shaped up.

Many of those jobs aren't needed. Eliminate the position.

You have yet to name which ones you deem fit for elimination and why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He could accomplish that just by being more permissive with remote work. The fed workforce would probably toast his name if he let them work from Tampa instead of having to slog in from Martinsburg every day.

It all probably depends on if the CRE owners downtown ticked him off or are his buddies though...

If he does this, it will be out of vengeance. He’s going to get his revenge. And he’s going to do it by kicking dirt in their faces to blind and distract.

A note: if Biden doesn’t step out of the race , it will also be his fault.

So, Biden’s campaign team, if you are lurking, I do not want Trump but I cannot vote for a senile human to be the chief executive of my country.

But I think you don’t care, you just want power.

[Anonymous]

If a position is moved to a distant part of the country..is the current employee basically let go and a new position opened at the new spot? Does the original employee et severance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a position is moved to a distant part of the country..is the current employee basically let go and a new position opened at the new spot? Does the original employee et severance?

I think it would be similar to what DoD does with base closures. They may have specific geographic locations which you can automatically transfer to (based on your position) or you are given priority placement to apply for jobs in any geographic area. I think they include moving costs. Also, they offer severance packages and/or early retirement.

But the offers are only good for a certain period of time. After that, I think you are basically unemployed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He could accomplish that just by being more permissive with remote work. The fed workforce would probably toast his name if he let them work from Tampa instead of having to slog in from Martinsburg every day.

It all probably depends on if the CRE owners downtown ticked him off or are his buddies though...

If he does this, it will be out of vengeance. He’s going to get his revenge. And he’s going to do it by kicking dirt in their faces to blind and distract.

A note: if Biden doesn’t step out of the race , it will also be his fault.

So, Biden’s campaign team, if you are lurking, I do not want Trump but I cannot vote for a senile human to be the chief executive of my country.

But I think you don’t care, you just want power.

Trump is incoherent. Vote for who you want around the President— the guys like Russ Vought who want a Dominionist/Christian Nationalist gov’t and the Heritage foundation/Project 2025 who want to dismantle the entire federal government to give more tax cuts to billionaires or the guys who are rebuilding our manufacturing base, strengthening alliances to counter Russia and China, and giving us the best economy in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a position is moved to a distant part of the country..is the current employee basically let go and a new position opened at the new spot? Does the original employee et severance?

When the USDA agencies moved, the employees were asked to move to the new location (and I think they were given some relocation money), but if they didn’t want to then they had to quit.

[Anonymous]

And yet the USDA has not crumbled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yet the USDA has not crumbled.

Because Biden undid the mess Trump created, genius.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pre-Carter, the feds were highly intelligent, elite people who felt obligation to country. Today, the feds are mediocre and unmotivated, many have been stealing paychecks from gov since the day gov was shutdown bc of covid. They are wildly overpaid. A 50% reduction would not be enough- I would do 80% reduction. The fed gov is like twitter before musk took over, only with a far lower IQ. We could get rid of 50% and you literally would not notice.

No one’s listening to you.

Thank you for listening to me, no one's.

[Anonymous]

One positive side effect for those with high-performing high-school age kids is that the children will be so much more competitive for highly selective schools if they're applying from flyover country. Colleges love these kids as geographical diversity recruits.