Why Does Johns Hopkins Get Destroyed in Cross-Admit Battles with Peer Schools?

[Anonymous]

Shouldn't the Duke versus Johns Hopkins debate be settled on the lacrosse field ?

[Anonymous]

Foolishness

Hopkins SAIS -> one of the world's leading centers for the study of international affairs
Hopkins APL -> pipeline from Whiting to the APL
Hopkins Peabody -> Top 10 Music Conservatory
Hopkins Med -> well at least you'd heard of that

Heck, even the Writing Seminars program spat out P.J. O'Rourke, Wes Craven, David Lipsky

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it's not peers with those schools?

Hopkins is overranked because of federal funding for its medical research and Applied Physics Lab. While I'm sure the medical research has some carryover for undergrad students in biological sciences, it doesn't do much for anything outside of those subjects. The APL is based a 30 minutes drive off campus so it's not of much use to physics/engineering undergrad students.

The Ivies are Ivies, and therefore recognized globally. Duke is well-recognized nationally in every industry due to it's breadth of competencies and also basketball. Hopkins is well recognized nationally but primarily as a pre-med school.

I mostly agree but Bloomberg's $1B donation changed the game for Hopkins. Even if they're not quite at the level of Yale, Duke, Columbia, and Penn at the very least the donation put them with Dartmouth, Cornell, Brown, Chicago, and Northwestern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it's not peers with those schools?

Hopkins is overranked because of federal funding for its medical research and Applied Physics Lab. While I'm sure the medical research has some carryover for undergrad students in biological sciences, it doesn't do much for anything outside of those subjects. The APL is based a 30 minutes drive off campus so it's not of much use to physics/engineering undergrad students.

The Ivies are Ivies, and therefore recognized globally. Duke is well-recognized nationally in every industry due to it's breadth of competencies and also basketball. Hopkins is well recognized nationally but primarily as a pre-med school.

How could you live in this area and be totally ignorant of SAIS?

[Anonymous]

The Space Telescope Science Center is located on Hopkins undergraduate campus. https://www.stsci.edu/contact-us

[Anonymous]

If Hopkins were in a wealthy small town like Princeton then the denizens of DCUM would be fawning over Hopkins the same way. Let's just be frank here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Foolishness

Hopkins SAIS -> one of the world's leading centers for the study of international affairs
Hopkins APL -> pipeline from Whiting to the APL
Hopkins Peabody -> Top 10 Music Conservatory
Hopkins Med -> well at least you'd heard of that

Heck, even the Writing Seminars program spat out P.J. O'Rourke, Wes Craven, David Lipsky

Yeah, no one is doubting JHU's grad programs are stellar. The school simply hasn't invested enough in its undergrads, like UChicago until the 2010s. It's simple as that! That's why the school does so terribly in cross-admit battles against schools both above and below its caliber.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foolishness

Hopkins SAIS -> one of the world's leading centers for the study of international affairs
Hopkins APL -> pipeline from Whiting to the APL
Hopkins Peabody -> Top 10 Music Conservatory
Hopkins Med -> well at least you'd heard of that

Heck, even the Writing Seminars program spat out P.J. O'Rourke, Wes Craven, David Lipsky

Yeah, no one is doubting JHU's grad programs are stellar. The school simply hasn't invested enough in its undergrads, like UChicago until the 2010s. It's simple as that! That's why the school does so terribly in cross-admit battles against schools both above and below its caliber.

You have no proof of that. Again, a Hopkins alum would know better to make such an argument without quality data to support it (and Parchment is far from quality data). Too bad you didn’t have a rigorous undergraduate education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Hopkins were in a wealthy small town like Princeton then the denizens of DCUM would be fawning over Hopkins the same way. Let's just be frank here.

Who knows, the dcum denizens love to trash the local schools (Georgetown, Hopkins, UVA, VT) all of which are stellar. Based on some of the posts from the days acceptances are released, some of it seems to be over lingering hostility of they or their offspring not being accepted.

[Anonymous]

Too dangerous. My kid didn’t want to be at any school where there are “no go” zones for running, walking, biking etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Hopkins were in a wealthy small town like Princeton then the denizens of DCUM would be fawning over Hopkins the same way. Let's just be frank here.

And?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too dangerous. My kid didn’t want to be at any school where there are “no go” zones for running, walking, biking etc.

That neighborhood is SO much nicer now than it was back then..

BTW.... why did they even apply?

[Anonymous]

Looks like the ones bashing Parchment the most are the over-ranked USNews schools compared to their Parchment data, ie Chicago, Hopkins, and Vanderbilt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crummy city/location and zero real world layman prestige. If it wasn’t a “US News top 15” nobody would care about it. Exact same with UChicago.

Actually the undergraduate campus is beautiful and in a very nice part of the city, equivalent to NW DC.

Lol this is a huge stretch! Nice try, marketing department!

Not a stretch at all.Guilford, the neighborhood immediately bordering the Hopkins Homewood campus, is nicer/grander and more attractive than Chevy Chase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like the ones bashing Parchment the most are the over-ranked USNews schools compared to their Parchment data, ie Chicago, Hopkins, and Vanderbilt.

Looks like the posters who use Parchment never learned that self reported data is always of limited utility and old data loses its value.