I am Russian, she is Ukrainian, we were friends

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.

That's ridiculous. Are you okay with being punished for all of the rotten things the US has done over the years?

She isn’t American, she is Ukrainian I think. Well maybe a naturalized citizen

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.

Even the protestors need to be punished? Are you for real?

Every. Single. Russian.


There. Here. Everywhere.



Is that unambiguous enough?

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Anonymous wrote:I too have started to distance myself from a few Russian friends I have known 10+ years. I'm not rude, and it's not personal, but I just cut off communication and don't want them in my life any more based on what I've seen and heard from Ukraine. If one of them were to constantly protest against Putin very publicly, or join a very public resistance movement, then it would be a different story.

For better or for worse, sometimes people bear the shame of the actions of their leaders.

Are these Russian-Americans? I very much hope you aren’t indiscriminately distancing yourself from everyone with Russian heritage.

These are people who identify more with Russia than the US, whether by birth or extended family ties. It may not be fair in every case but Putin drew the battle lines and forced us all to pick sides. Every time I see or hear a Russian now the photos of dead Ukrainian children flash before my eyes.

As others have said there will doubtless be Russian heroes who are part of the resistance, but for any Russians who don't make resistance to Putin their #1 priority from now until he is dead, they are not welcome around me or my family.

How do you know they identify more with Russia than the US? Also, how are Russians who don’t live in Russia supposed to make resistance to Putin their #1 priority for the rest of Putin’s life, which could be another 20 years?

The answer to the first question is - I make my best judgment. Not perfect. Not fair. But again, that's the situation we are in.

To answer the second question - vocal, unequivocal, constant condemnation of Putin. Reach out to family members in Russia and try to send them facts. Raise money to support Ukraine. Renounce Russian citizenship and claim asylum in the US. And do it all very publicly. That may be too much "real talk" for you but that's the situation. If you don't realize it yet, you will soon. My opinion is shared by most of the family and friends I've spoken with the last week.

The situation we’re in is that we all should be judging whether Russian-Americans are loyal to Russia or the US?

They need to publicly renounce Russian citizenship? What if they need it in order to visit sick family members in Russia? It is not easy to get a visa to is it Russia.

And please don’t lecture me on what’s real or not. I am Russian and Ukrainian. I know this situation all too well — unlike you, who have decided to insert yourself into this situation.

Ask yourself, with the benefit of hindsight: if you were a German in Hitler's Germany when war broke out, what should you have done? Because it's the same story starting all over again. Putin is an existential threat to every life on the planet.

You’re not engaging with what I’m saying at all.

I am, you just don't want to hear it.

I'm saying that the Russian people bear responsibility for Putin. Not guilt, but responsibility. The #1 priority of every Russian on planet Earth should be the elimination of Putin and the restoration of their country. Maybe after he carpet bombs Kyiv or drops a couple tactical nukes in western Ukraine you will wake up.

I have the utmost respect for Russians engaged in active resistance to the regime. They are heroes. Russians supporting the regime are modern day Nazis and SS. Russians shrugging their shoulders and saying "war is bad" with half-hearted outrage are the "good germans" who ignored the Nazi death camps burning the bodies of jews a few km away from their towns.

As a Jew, I'm getting pretty tired of people using the Holocaust as an example. You don't care about Jews. You care about winning some argument on the Internet.
And no, I actually don't blame ordinary Germans for the Holocaust. You clearly have no concept of what life is like outside of your safe American bubble.

DP. You are a Jew who is 80 years removed from the devastating events. I doubt your Jewish ancestors stayed on friendly terms with their German neighbors. As a person from a country who has experienced modern day genocide (as Ukraine is experiencing) the very sight of a Russian would make me puke. Rationally I understood, but the emotions were overwhelming and extremely raw.

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Anonymous wrote:I too have started to distance myself from a few Russian friends I have known 10+ years. I'm not rude, and it's not personal, but I just cut off communication and don't want them in my life any more based on what I've seen and heard from Ukraine. If one of them were to constantly protest against Putin very publicly, or join a very public resistance movement, then it would be a different story.

For better or for worse, sometimes people bear the shame of the actions of their leaders.

Are these Russian-Americans? I very much hope you aren’t indiscriminately distancing yourself from everyone with Russian heritage.

These are people who identify more with Russia than the US, whether by birth or extended family ties. It may not be fair in every case but Putin drew the battle lines and forced us all to pick sides. Every time I see or hear a Russian now the photos of dead Ukrainian children flash before my eyes.

As others have said there will doubtless be Russian heroes who are part of the resistance, but for any Russians who don't make resistance to Putin their #1 priority from now until he is dead, they are not welcome around me or my family.

How do you know they identify more with Russia than the US? Also, how are Russians who don’t live in Russia supposed to make resistance to Putin their #1 priority for the rest of Putin’s life, which could be another 20 years?

The answer to the first question is - I make my best judgment. Not perfect. Not fair. But again, that's the situation we are in.

To answer the second question - vocal, unequivocal, constant condemnation of Putin. Reach out to family members in Russia and try to send them facts. Raise money to support Ukraine. Renounce Russian citizenship and claim asylum in the US. And do it all very publicly. That may be too much "real talk" for you but that's the situation. If you don't realize it yet, you will soon. My opinion is shared by most of the family and friends I've spoken with the last week.

The situation we’re in is that we all should be judging whether Russian-Americans are loyal to Russia or the US?

They need to publicly renounce Russian citizenship? What if they need it in order to visit sick family members in Russia? It is not easy to get a visa to is it Russia.

And please don’t lecture me on what’s real or not. I am Russian and Ukrainian. I know this situation all too well — unlike you, who have decided to insert yourself into this situation.

Ask yourself, with the benefit of hindsight: if you were a German in Hitler's Germany when war broke out, what should you have done? Because it's the same story starting all over again. Putin is an existential threat to every life on the planet.

You’re not engaging with what I’m saying at all.

I am, you just don't want to hear it.

I'm saying that the Russian people bear responsibility for Putin. Not guilt, but responsibility. The #1 priority of every Russian on planet Earth should be the elimination of Putin and the restoration of their country. Maybe after he carpet bombs Kyiv or drops a couple tactical nukes in western Ukraine you will wake up.

I have the utmost respect for Russians engaged in active resistance to the regime. They are heroes. Russians supporting the regime are modern day Nazis and SS. Russians shrugging their shoulders and saying "war is bad" with half-hearted outrage are the "good germans" who ignored the Nazi death camps burning the bodies of jews a few km away from their towns.

As a Jew, I'm getting pretty tired of people using the Holocaust as an example. You don't care about Jews. You care about winning some argument on the Internet.
And no, I actually don't blame ordinary Germans for the Holocaust. You clearly have no concept of what life is like outside of your safe American bubble.

You may not and neither do I, but I can tell you that all four of my EE Jewish grandparents from Ukraine who lived through WW2 and lost family in the Holocaust and the war as well as either fought against or had to hide from the Nazis would never buy a single item made in Germany, go to Germany or makes friends with a German until their dying day and they all lived well into the 21st century. So while who knows what will happen in the next few generations, it would make complete sense if many Ukrainians, including OP's friend, will just not want to deal with any Russian whatsoever.

That is, of course, very different from the rabid American posters a lot of whom couldn't point to Ukraine on a map before this getting in on the action which is absurd and and they should stay in their safe bubble and stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I too have started to distance myself from a few Russian friends I have known 10+ years. I'm not rude, and it's not personal, but I just cut off communication and don't want them in my life any more based on what I've seen and heard from Ukraine. If one of them were to constantly protest against Putin very publicly, or join a very public resistance movement, then it would be a different story.

For better or for worse, sometimes people bear the shame of the actions of their leaders.

Are these Russian-Americans? I very much hope you aren’t indiscriminately distancing yourself from everyone with Russian heritage.

These are people who identify more with Russia than the US, whether by birth or extended family ties. It may not be fair in every case but Putin drew the battle lines and forced us all to pick sides. Every time I see or hear a Russian now the photos of dead Ukrainian children flash before my eyes.

As others have said there will doubtless be Russian heroes who are part of the resistance, but for any Russians who don't make resistance to Putin their #1 priority from now until he is dead, they are not welcome around me or my family.

How do you know they identify more with Russia than the US? Also, how are Russians who don’t live in Russia supposed to make resistance to Putin their #1 priority for the rest of Putin’s life, which could be another 20 years?

The answer to the first question is - I make my best judgment. Not perfect. Not fair. But again, that's the situation we are in.

To answer the second question - vocal, unequivocal, constant condemnation of Putin. Reach out to family members in Russia and try to send them facts. Raise money to support Ukraine. Renounce Russian citizenship and claim asylum in the US. And do it all very publicly. That may be too much "real talk" for you but that's the situation. If you don't realize it yet, you will soon. My opinion is shared by most of the family and friends I've spoken with the last week.

The situation we’re in is that we all should be judging whether Russian-Americans are loyal to Russia or the US?

They need to publicly renounce Russian citizenship? What if they need it in order to visit sick family members in Russia? It is not easy to get a visa to is it Russia.

And please don’t lecture me on what’s real or not. I am Russian and Ukrainian. I know this situation all too well — unlike you, who have decided to insert yourself into this situation.

Ask yourself, with the benefit of hindsight: if you were a German in Hitler's Germany when war broke out, what should you have done? Because it's the same story starting all over again. Putin is an existential threat to every life on the planet.

You’re not engaging with what I’m saying at all.

I am, you just don't want to hear it.

I'm saying that the Russian people bear responsibility for Putin. Not guilt, but responsibility. The #1 priority of every Russian on planet Earth should be the elimination of Putin and the restoration of their country. Maybe after he carpet bombs Kyiv or drops a couple tactical nukes in western Ukraine you will wake up.

I have the utmost respect for Russians engaged in active resistance to the regime. They are heroes. Russians supporting the regime are modern day Nazis and SS. Russians shrugging their shoulders and saying "war is bad" with half-hearted outrage are the "good germans" who ignored the Nazi death camps burning the bodies of jews a few km away from their towns.

As a Jew, I'm getting pretty tired of people using the Holocaust as an example. You don't care about Jews. You care about winning some argument on the Internet.
And no, I actually don't blame ordinary Germans for the Holocaust. You clearly have no concept of what life is like outside of your safe American bubble.

DP. You are a Jew who is 80 years removed from the devastating events. I doubt your Jewish ancestors stayed on friendly terms with their German neighbors. As a person from a country who has experienced modern day genocide (as Ukraine is experiencing) the very sight of a Russian would make me puke. Rationally I understood, but the emotions were overwhelming and extremely raw.

Way to devalue someone’s experience. You can share your own experience without putting down someone else’s.

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Russia is a Nazi state

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One pp is nuts here. She is the real Fascist.

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Anonymous wrote:I too have started to distance myself from a few Russian friends I have known 10+ years. I'm not rude, and it's not personal, but I just cut off communication and don't want them in my life any more based on what I've seen and heard from Ukraine. If one of them were to constantly protest against Putin very publicly, or join a very public resistance movement, then it would be a different story.

For better or for worse, sometimes people bear the shame of the actions of their leaders.

Are these Russian-Americans? I very much hope you aren’t indiscriminately distancing yourself from everyone with Russian heritage.

These are people who identify more with Russia than the US, whether by birth or extended family ties. It may not be fair in every case but Putin drew the battle lines and forced us all to pick sides. Every time I see or hear a Russian now the photos of dead Ukrainian children flash before my eyes.

As others have said there will doubtless be Russian heroes who are part of the resistance, but for any Russians who don't make resistance to Putin their #1 priority from now until he is dead, they are not welcome around me or my family.

How do you know they identify more with Russia than the US? Also, how are Russians who don’t live in Russia supposed to make resistance to Putin their #1 priority for the rest of Putin’s life, which could be another 20 years?

The answer to the first question is - I make my best judgment. Not perfect. Not fair. But again, that's the situation we are in.

To answer the second question - vocal, unequivocal, constant condemnation of Putin. Reach out to family members in Russia and try to send them facts. Raise money to support Ukraine. Renounce Russian citizenship and claim asylum in the US. And do it all very publicly. That may be too much "real talk" for you but that's the situation. If you don't realize it yet, you will soon. My opinion is shared by most of the family and friends I've spoken with the last week.

The situation we’re in is that we all should be judging whether Russian-Americans are loyal to Russia or the US?

They need to publicly renounce Russian citizenship? What if they need it in order to visit sick family members in Russia? It is not easy to get a visa to is it Russia.

And please don’t lecture me on what’s real or not. I am Russian and Ukrainian. I know this situation all too well — unlike you, who have decided to insert yourself into this situation.

Ask yourself, with the benefit of hindsight: if you were a German in Hitler's Germany when war broke out, what should you have done? Because it's the same story starting all over again. Putin is an existential threat to every life on the planet.

You’re not engaging with what I’m saying at all.

I am, you just don't want to hear it.

I'm saying that the Russian people bear responsibility for Putin. Not guilt, but responsibility. The #1 priority of every Russian on planet Earth should be the elimination of Putin and the restoration of their country. Maybe after he carpet bombs Kyiv or drops a couple tactical nukes in western Ukraine you will wake up.

I have the utmost respect for Russians engaged in active resistance to the regime. They are heroes. Russians supporting the regime are modern day Nazis and SS. Russians shrugging their shoulders and saying "war is bad" with half-hearted outrage are the "good germans" who ignored the Nazi death camps burning the bodies of jews a few km away from their towns.

As a Jew, I'm getting pretty tired of people using the Holocaust as an example. You don't care about Jews. You care about winning some argument on the Internet.
And no, I actually don't blame ordinary Germans for the Holocaust. You clearly have no concept of what life is like outside of your safe American bubble.

DP. You are a Jew who is 80 years removed from the devastating events. I doubt your Jewish ancestors stayed on friendly terms with their German neighbors. As a person from a country who has experienced modern day genocide (as Ukraine is experiencing) the very sight of a Russian would make me puke. Rationally I understood, but the emotions were overwhelming and extremely raw.

Way to devalue someone’s experience. You can share your own experience without putting down someone else’s.

What experience? She literally has no experience on this.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.

So many Russians ran from Russia to escape the oppression and dirty politics there. It’s not their fault for God’s sake.

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Anonymous wrote:I too have started to distance myself from a few Russian friends I have known 10+ years. I'm not rude, and it's not personal, but I just cut off communication and don't want them in my life any more based on what I've seen and heard from Ukraine. If one of them were to constantly protest against Putin very publicly, or join a very public resistance movement, then it would be a different story.

For better or for worse, sometimes people bear the shame of the actions of their leaders.

Are these Russian-Americans? I very much hope you aren’t indiscriminately distancing yourself from everyone with Russian heritage.

These are people who identify more with Russia than the US, whether by birth or extended family ties. It may not be fair in every case but Putin drew the battle lines and forced us all to pick sides. Every time I see or hear a Russian now the photos of dead Ukrainian children flash before my eyes.

As others have said there will doubtless be Russian heroes who are part of the resistance, but for any Russians who don't make resistance to Putin their #1 priority from now until he is dead, they are not welcome around me or my family.

How do you know they identify more with Russia than the US? Also, how are Russians who don’t live in Russia supposed to make resistance to Putin their #1 priority for the rest of Putin’s life, which could be another 20 years?

The answer to the first question is - I make my best judgment. Not perfect. Not fair. But again, that's the situation we are in.

To answer the second question - vocal, unequivocal, constant condemnation of Putin. Reach out to family members in Russia and try to send them facts. Raise money to support Ukraine. Renounce Russian citizenship and claim asylum in the US. And do it all very publicly. That may be too much "real talk" for you but that's the situation. If you don't realize it yet, you will soon. My opinion is shared by most of the family and friends I've spoken with the last week.

The situation we’re in is that we all should be judging whether Russian-Americans are loyal to Russia or the US?

They need to publicly renounce Russian citizenship? What if they need it in order to visit sick family members in Russia? It is not easy to get a visa to is it Russia.

And please don’t lecture me on what’s real or not. I am Russian and Ukrainian. I know this situation all too well — unlike you, who have decided to insert yourself into this situation.

Ask yourself, with the benefit of hindsight: if you were a German in Hitler's Germany when war broke out, what should you have done? Because it's the same story starting all over again. Putin is an existential threat to every life on the planet.

You’re not engaging with what I’m saying at all.

I am, you just don't want to hear it.

I'm saying that the Russian people bear responsibility for Putin. Not guilt, but responsibility. The #1 priority of every Russian on planet Earth should be the elimination of Putin and the restoration of their country. Maybe after he carpet bombs Kyiv or drops a couple tactical nukes in western Ukraine you will wake up.

I have the utmost respect for Russians engaged in active resistance to the regime. They are heroes. Russians supporting the regime are modern day Nazis and SS. Russians shrugging their shoulders and saying "war is bad" with half-hearted outrage are the "good germans" who ignored the Nazi death camps burning the bodies of jews a few km away from their towns.

As a Jew, I'm getting pretty tired of people using the Holocaust as an example. You don't care about Jews. You care about winning some argument on the Internet.
And no, I actually don't blame ordinary Germans for the Holocaust. You clearly have no concept of what life is like outside of your safe American bubble.

DP. You are a Jew who is 80 years removed from the devastating events. I doubt your Jewish ancestors stayed on friendly terms with their German neighbors. As a person from a country who has experienced modern day genocide (as Ukraine is experiencing) the very sight of a Russian would make me puke. Rationally I understood, but the emotions were overwhelming and extremely raw.

Way to devalue someone’s experience. You can share your own experience without putting down someone else’s.

Wait - what? That PP literally put down every single other person's experience by saying they couldn't compare and it's tiring hearing about them.

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Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.

I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.

It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.

GTFOH. It’s rich to read this from an American. You think there isn’t blood on your hands because your country controls the narrative and dominates the world?

Seriously. People who have just started thinking about Russia and Ukraine in late February need to just stay out of this.

The unmitigated gall of Americans has me wishing they would start a war with Russia and get their comeuppance finally. That madman in Moscow will absolutely go nuclear, pun intended. It’s intolerable listening to Americans preen and bump their gums as if they’re not the world‘s most harmful and destructive villains. Africa says hello, you twits.

Indeed! Bravo for saying it so eloquently! And not just Africa, Asia, the Middle East, Serbs, Albanians whom they were "rescuing" by bombing my Albanian cousins!
Even when they think they are doing "good" they cause more harm than they can imagine! Free shirts for all... no jobs for any shirt makers that were providing perfectly fine shirts and jobs for thousands!

The USA is the only country that has shown true global leadership in the last 100 years. It still remains the only country that both steps up to the plate and does it competently. The US will turn inwards, because it can afford to, and it will be a painful experience for those who like to complain about its “interferences”.

Yeah yeah, whatever you say. Glad you war mongering baby boomers are losing relevande

We’ll just let evolution take care of the Russian. They have been close to die out of starvation a few times in the last century.

Hoping for mass starvation. Psychotic.

I am not hoping for mass starvation, I am merely stating the historical facts. Russians chose self-organization systems and leaders that lead them to the edge of extinction. It’s a pattern. I think it’s time the West throw in the towel.

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Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.

I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.

It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.

GTFOH. It’s rich to read this from an American. You think there isn’t blood on your hands because your country controls the narrative and dominates the world?

Seriously. People who have just started thinking about Russia and Ukraine in late February need to just stay out of this.

The unmitigated gall of Americans has me wishing they would start a war with Russia and get their comeuppance finally. That madman in Moscow will absolutely go nuclear, pun intended. It’s intolerable listening to Americans preen and bump their gums as if they’re not the world‘s most harmful and destructive villains. Africa says hello, you twits.

Indeed! Bravo for saying it so eloquently! And not just Africa, Asia, the Middle East, Serbs, Albanians whom they were "rescuing" by bombing my Albanian cousins!
Even when they think they are doing "good" they cause more harm than they can imagine! Free shirts for all... no jobs for any shirt makers that were providing perfectly fine shirts and jobs for thousands!

The USA is the only country that has shown true global leadership in the last 100 years. It still remains the only country that both steps up to the plate and does it competently. The US will turn inwards, because it can afford to, and it will be a painful experience for those who like to complain about its “interferences”.

Yeah yeah, whatever you say. Glad you war mongering baby boomers are losing relevande

We’ll just let evolution take care of the Russian. They have been close to die out of starvation a few times in the last century.

Hoping for mass starvation. Psychotic.

I am not hoping for mass starvation, I am merely stating the historical facts. Russians chose self-organization systems and leaders that lead them to the edge of extinction. It’s a pattern. I think it’s time the West throw in the towel.

I didn’t know people choose authoritarianism. Interesting.

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