I am Russian, she is Ukrainian, we were friends

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Did they do anything at all to deserve that? Jeez.

I’m half Russian/half Ukrainian — what would you do with me?
Anonymous
Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.


You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.


Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.


I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.


It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.

GTFOH. It’s rich to read this from an American. You think there isn’t blood on your hands because your country controls the narrative and dominates the world?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.


You don’t know what you’re talking about.


Oh, I absolutely do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.


You don’t know what you’re talking about.


Oh, I absolutely do.


Want to provide examples?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Did they do anything at all to deserve that? Jeez.

I’m half Russian/half Ukrainian — what would you do with me?



The fact that you still choose to identify as half Russian tells me you’re not worth the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.


Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.


I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.


It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.

GTFOH. It’s rich to read this from an American. You think there isn’t blood on your hands because your country controls the narrative and dominates the world?


Seriously. People who have just started thinking about Russia and Ukraine in late February need to just stay out of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Did they do anything at all to deserve that? Jeez.

I’m half Russian/half Ukrainian — what would you do with me?



The fact that you still choose to identify as half Russian tells me you’re not worth the time.


Excuse me, what? It’s not a choice — half my family is from St. Petersburg. Am I supposed to pretend that half of my family doesn’t exist?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.


Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.


I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.


It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.

GTFOH. It’s rich to read this from an American. You think there isn’t blood on your hands because your country controls the narrative and dominates the world?


Seriously. People who have just started thinking about Russia and Ukraine in late February need to just stay out of this.

The unmitigated gall of Americans has me wishing they would start a war with Russia and get their comeuppance finally. That madman in Moscow will absolutely go nuclear, pun intended. It’s intolerable listening to Americans preen and bump their gums as if they’re not the world‘s most harmful and destructive villains. Africa says hello, you twits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.


Are you clearly opposed to the war? One thing we have encountered with Russian friends is that they take an equivocal position regarding the war in which they place some blame on the Ukrainians (or NATO, etc). I can imagine Ukrainians not having a lot of patience with both-sidesing the war right now.


I place absolutely no blame on the Ukrainians. This is their land that is being raped. I do not support Russian position and if anything, I have called for a no fly zone over Ukraine.


It is not enough as a Russian to “call for” something and say you are opposed. What concretely are you doing? you and your family, including your kids? Are you raising money? Are you attending protests? Are you writing your rep and asking for support for a no fly zone? Have you asked how you can support, concretely, your friends family? Do they have relatives still in Ukraine? What concrete help have you offered to get them out or provide them with supies or contacts?

If you are just talk and no action, your friend sees that as a betrayal.


We are raising money for medicine, we volunteer at Ukrainian churches, we brought supplies, we go to protests. We call our senators and congressmen. We constantly share information about jobs and housing for displaced people; we actually have relatives in France and in Denmark who offered to take people in. My friend actually has no family left in Ukraine, everyone is in the US.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Even the protestors need to be punished? Are you for real?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Even the protestors need to be punished? Are you for real?



Every. Single. Russian.


There. Here. Everywhere.



Is that unambiguous enough?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Even the protestors need to be punished? Are you for real?



Every. Single. Russian.


There. Here. Everywhere.



Is that unambiguous enough?


DP — So the 10 year old girl who was detained in Moscow for holding up a sign that says “peace” needs to be punished?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve cut off the two Russians I was friendly with.


This is personal. Every single Russian needs to punished for this, not just Putin and the oligarchs.


Even the protestors need to be punished? Are you for real?



Every. Single. Russian.


There. Here. Everywhere.



Is that unambiguous enough?


This is a very short-sighted an immoral position. As others have pointed out, Americans should be among the last to support collective responsibility for their nation's atrocities.
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