Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:The mindset expressed in this mother's letter to the Atlantic about her DC's college application experience explains a bit how we get to the college admissions scandal. There is a view that there are only a few highly selective schools that are acceptable, and that acceptance to any one of them is indicative of your worth as a student and a human being. Right now, my DD is applying for internships and she is frustrated at not getting the ones she want and in exasperation she has asked me "don't you think I deserve it?" Yes, she works hard. Yes, she has good grades. Yes, she goes to a "good school." Yet, I have a very hard time telling her "yes, you deserve it and it is not fair that you are not being selected/" I haven't yet figured out how to answer her question.

That being said, the Mom who writes this letter to the Atlantic is a nutcase and she is going to ruin her child for life. Life is not fair! Get over it! You do not have a right to attend an Ivy League or any other school.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/02/im-worried-my-son-wont-get-good-college/582979/

what types of internships is she shooting for?

Not the PP but my friend's daughter had to apply to over 100 before she even got a callback. Ridiculous

that's the market though - internships, entry level, mid level under 10 years of experience are all brutal markets.

No, it's not. There are more factors at play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mindset expressed in this mother's letter to the Atlantic about her DC's college application experience explains a bit how we get to the college admissions scandal. There is a view that there are only a few highly selective schools that are acceptable, and that acceptance to any one of them is indicative of your worth as a student and a human being. Right now, my DD is applying for internships and she is frustrated at not getting the ones she want and in exasperation she has asked me "don't you think I deserve it?" Yes, she works hard. Yes, she has good grades. Yes, she goes to a "good school." Yet, I have a very hard time telling her "yes, you deserve it and it is not fair that you are not being selected/" I haven't yet figured out how to answer her question.

That being said, the Mom who writes this letter to the Atlantic is a nutcase and she is going to ruin her child for life. Life is not fair! Get over it! You do not have a right to attend an Ivy League or any other school.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/02/im-worried-my-son-wont-get-good-college/582979/

what types of internships is she shooting for?

Not the PP but my friend's daughter had to apply to over 100 before she even got a callback. Ridiculous

"Apply?" Didn't mom have anyone to call? Sadly, that's how it is for many internships.

Nope. That's what I mean by many factors at play. What makes me nuts is those that do this and then pretend they didn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Internships - what year in school? Wharton sophomore friend had over 100 interviews and only 3 call backs. Finally got an internship through a friend. It’s who you know...

Or how well you do in school.

My kid has never seen a B. Straight As since Jr. High, really good college. We don't pay and we don't call. It sucks that she finally understands how the world works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is all why real socialism, massive tax hikes, and meaningful changes to inheritance laws happen soon. White privileged behavior in this realm sounds appalling.

Socialism will make it worse. Then only the elites have access to all the goodies and the common people get to service them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The mindset expressed in this mother's letter to the Atlantic about her DC's college application experience explains a bit how we get to the college admissions scandal. There is a view that there are only a few highly selective schools that are acceptable, and that acceptance to any one of them is indicative of your worth as a student and a human being. Right now, my DD is applying for internships and she is frustrated at not getting the ones she want and in exasperation she has asked me "don't you think I deserve it?" Yes, she works hard. Yes, she has good grades. Yes, she goes to a "good school." Yet, I have a very hard time telling her "yes, you deserve it and it is not fair that you are not being selected/" I haven't yet figured out how to answer her question.

That being said, the Mom who writes this letter to the Atlantic is a nutcase and she is going to ruin her child for life. Life is not fair! Get over it! You do not have a right to attend an Ivy League or any other school.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/02/im-worried-my-son-wont-get-good-college/582979/

what types of internships is she shooting for?

Not the PP but my friend's daughter had to apply to over 100 before she even got a callback. Ridiculous

If she applied for 100 internships before getting a call back then her materials were not very remarkable and likely had some errors.

And her parents aren't social elites.

[Anonymous]

I would look over interns/recent grads from Harvard, Yale, etc. if they have zero work experience on their resume. There is something going on if she applied to 100 places and didn’t hear back.

I’d rather hire someone from a state school who waited tables than an ivy leaguer with no work ethic. I don’t care if it is volunteering, babysitting, etc. you’ve gotta show me you have some sort of work ethic.

-a senior level manager who has dealt with 100s of interns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Internships - what year in school? Wharton sophomore friend had over 100 interviews and only 3 call backs. Finally got an internship through a friend. It’s who you know...

Or how well you do in school.

My kid has never seen a B. Straight As since Jr. High, really good college. We don't pay and we don't call. It sucks that she finally understands how the world works.

Kid has a 3.8 and above. Those that got call back were women and URMs.

[Anonymous]

U can go to podunk school vs the top20 or 50 but if your parents have no connections, it would be difficult to get internships in freshman and sophomore years - it’s lifeguard, camps or waitressing

[Anonymous]

More details on the financiers involved from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2019/03/12/financiers-play-prominent-role-in-college-admissions-cheating-scandal/#8de55a547aee

One tidbit: Henriquez, the CEO of Hercules Capital and father of the faux tennis team Georgetown student, used his connections to get an admission to Northeastern for another client of Singer's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More details on the financiers involved from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2019/03/12/financiers-play-prominent-role-in-college-admissions-cheating-scandal/#8de55a547aee

One tidbit: Henriquez, the CEO of Hercules Capital and father of the faux tennis team Georgetown student, used his connections to get an admission to Northeastern for another client of Singer's.

McGlashan‘S partner, Bono, is a cheat too - set up Dutch companies to avoid Irish taxes. To the wealthy $$$ - forgot climate change, just pay your fair share of taxes and stop using loopholes. I am not talking about 2 professional working families. I am talking about those carried interest, tax cheats like Bono, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More details on the financiers involved from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2019/03/12/financiers-play-prominent-role-in-college-admissions-cheating-scandal/#8de55a547aee

One tidbit: Henriquez, the CEO of Hercules Capital and father of the faux tennis team Georgetown student, used his connections to get an admission to Northeastern for another client of Singer's.

Wait do you mean northwestern?

Surely northeastern isn’t a place you need to pull strings!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Internships - what year in school? Wharton sophomore friend had over 100 interviews and only 3 call backs. Finally got an internship through a friend. It’s who you know...

This is common.

Freshman and sophomore paid internships are super hard to land - they are usually for diversity, development.

The best thing to do is paid research at a university following those years.

You can find something paid in research for the summer if you are a good student and are willing to go anywhere.

My sister who was a lac student was offered paid research at Montana State and we are east coast peeps but she was ready to go.

Her friends all wanted to be in nyc, Boston, la, Bay Area, or dc for the summer so they limited themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More details on the financiers involved from Forbes:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2019/03/12/financiers-play-prominent-role-in-college-admissions-cheating-scandal/#8de55a547aee

One tidbit: Henriquez, the CEO of Hercules Capital and father of the faux tennis team Georgetown student, used his connections to get an admission to Northeastern for another client of Singer's.

Wait do you mean northwestern?

Surely northeastern isn’t a place you need to pull strings!

Article says Northeastern. Sounds like Henriquez may have done this as some sort of favor to Singer and one of his regular (non-bribing) clients.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The USC engineering programs are very well-respected. More so, in fact, than some of the east coast elite schools you all idolize.

This is also true of some of the state schools. A Georgia Tech engineering student is likely a better hire than a Brown engineering student.

Huge yawn. USC is a clown college with zero social capital. Typical that left coast new money trash see it as the brass ring.

I would so much rather be left coast new money than anything like you.

Oh well. Don't whine too much when your kids get left behind by USC engineering grads.

[Anonymous]

lots of articles about college counselors bemoaning the focus on the elite schools and just be happy with “a good fit”, the fact is the highest paying jobs for prestige biglaw and top management consulting firms won’t even consider folks from the non-elite schools.